Quote from: Brasilnut on September 16, 2022, 13:59
depressing...glad I've got off that sinking ship (or at least devoting much less time there).

Also funny is this is a 2019 thread, and nothing is getting better?



It's a tough business and unlike 10 years ago, and that's when many started to see the big declines, 2012, it's been sinking ever since but many keep trying and hoping that something new will come along or some way will develop to make more for our work.

That isn't just Shutterstock, the whole market is declining and the agencies are dropping the rewards for work. Seems like 20% is a common number now? (or worse)

SS desperate to sell? Already several weeks on first load of the contributors page i am redirected to the sales page of SS and only after that step i can access a contributors page. Useless movement as i don't buy there

Quote from: changingsky on September 28, 2022, 14:36
SS desperate to sell? Already several weeks on first load of the contributors page i am redirected to the sales page of SS and only after that step i can access a contributors page. Useless movement as i don't buy there

Not a big defense of them but:   https://submit.shutterstock.com/dashboard

Depends on what link you have in your bookmarks? That should take you to the contributors scuffling for pocket change page. 

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 03, 2022, 09:02

Quote from: changingsky on September 28, 2022, 14:36
SS desperate to sell? Already several weeks on first load of the contributors page i am redirected to the sales page of SS and only after that step i can access a contributors page. Useless movement as i don't buy there

Not a big defense of them but:   https://submit.shutterstock.com/dashboard

Depends on what link you have in your bookmarks? That should take you to the contributors scuffling for pocket change page. 

++Thank you. It was always submit.shutterstock.com so i was surprised with those redirects. They survey? I use the same URL, no redirect today :-)

Quote from: Brasilnut on September 12, 2022, 13:42
I miss the SS forum, until today I still can't understand why they took it down

Hey Alexandre, all you have to do is read all the well known trolls and SS haters posts here on this forum.
Just read all the stupid crap posted about SS and the crying. Except on payday of course.
That is why SS took down the forums. I'm with you, I miss it as well. Lot's of good people were on it but the crying, complaining, trolling just won out.
That's also why I'm not a frequent visitor to this forum despite what some idiots claim.
It's mostly useless, negative crap that's posted.
Crying, crying, crying. Not much on how to increase sales, how to have a happy and good life.
Stay well my friend

Quote from: UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD on October 05, 2022, 13:47

Quote from: Brasilnut on September 12, 2022, 13:42
I miss the SS forum, until today I still can't understand why they took it down

Hey Alexandre, all you have to do is read all the well known trolls and SS haters posts here on this forum.
Just read all the stupid crap posted about SS and the crying. Except on payday of course.
That is why SS took down the forums. I'm with you, I miss it as well. Lot's of good people were on it but the crying, complaining, trolling just won out.
That's also why I'm not a frequent visitor to this forum despite what some idiots claim.
It's mostly useless, negative crap that's posted.
Crying, crying, crying. Not much on how to increase sales, how to have a happy and good life.
Stay well my friend

The SS forum became boring. It was constant whining about this and that and usually by the same people.  Then it got spammed big time and it was going to take a lot of work for SS to maintain it. So they stopped.

Quote from: Brasilnut on September 12, 2022, 13:42
I miss the SS forum, until today I still can't understand why they took it down

Suspect because it was full of anger and (almost entirely justified) criticism of the site a model.
Not a good corporate look for potential customers or shareholders to see.

They'd need to dedicate lots of resources to policing and censoring it so easier just to can it.  As another bonus it made it much harder for contributors to communicate with each other and discuss SS policies and so on.

Quote from: changingsky on October 05, 2022, 09:13

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 03, 2022, 09:02

Quote from: changingsky on September 28, 2022, 14:36
SS desperate to sell? Already several weeks on first load of the contributors page i am redirected to the sales page of SS and only after that step i can access a contributors page. Useless movement as i don't buy there

Not a big defense of them but:   https://submit.shutterstock.com/dashboard

Depends on what link you have in your bookmarks? That should take you to the contributors scuffling for pocket change page. 

++Thank you. It was always submit.shutterstock.com so i was surprised with those redirects. They survey? I use the same URL, no redirect today :-)

Here's another link you might like, but you have to bookmark it, or it will change back to 25  https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings/top-performers?page=1&date_range=0&sort_direction=desc&per_page=100

Top Performers 100 per page by sales $$$

Some call it "deterioration", I call it simply "capitulation".

Here's my month so far, at this rate I won't make $100 minimum payout for the first time in 7 years.

Quote from: Brasilnut on October 07, 2022, 12:54
...at this rate I won't make $100 minimum payout for the first time in 7 years.

Change it to $35!

My October month has been absolutely awful until now...

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 08, 2022, 03:47

Quote from: Brasilnut on October 07, 2022, 12:54
...at this rate I won't make $100 minimum payout for the first time in 7 years.

Change it to $35!

As someone who also has set mine to $100.   

Quote from: ch000 on October 10, 2022, 15:15
My October month has been absolutely awful until now...

Got stuff all over the place and October, which is normally pretty good month usually, is terrible so far.

Scratching my head and wondering what's going on.   

Quote from: angelacat on October 10, 2022, 19:16

Quote from: ch000 on October 10, 2022, 15:15
My October month has been absolutely awful until now...

Got stuff all over the place and October, which is normally pretty good month usually, is terrible so far.

Scratching my head and wondering what's going on.

I've noted a slowdown too. Not just this month but September too. I don't think it's SS, however. Seeing similar with AS. Could be the general economic slowdown as countries slip into recession.

Quote from: Jaggy on October 10, 2022, 20:53

Quote from: angelacat on October 10, 2022, 19:16

Quote from: ch000 on October 10, 2022, 15:15
My October month has been absolutely awful until now...

Got stuff all over the place and October, which is normally pretty good month usually, is terrible so far.

Scratching my head and wondering what's going on.

I've noted a slowdown too. Not just this month but September too. I don't think it's SS, however. Seeing similar with AS. Could be the general economic slowdown as countries slip into recession.

Same here, sharp decline in sales. Not only Shutterstock, but also Adobe indeed.

Not sure what's going on. Many customers dumping subscription plans for unlimited plans at Freepik, 123RF or others?
Preparing for economical recession?

Anyhow, it's weird because I had a really good September, also at Adobe.

Feels more like january than october. Obvious decline all across the board in what is usually the best selling month of the year

Quote from: thx9000 on October 11, 2022, 18:47
Feels more like january than october. Obvious decline all across the board in what is usually the best selling month of the year

Me too

Quote from: thx9000 on October 11, 2022, 18:47
Feels more like january than october. Obvious decline all across the board in what is usually the best selling month of the year

I think it is the combo of war and recession.

The rising energy cost and noone knowing how high it will go, means everyone has to aggressively cut down on costs. All the money will be needed just to keep the lights on and heating will be extremely expensive this winter.

People are also cutting down on going out, consumerism in general.

Now thatCovid has mostly ended it could have been great winter sales month.

Instead we will see two very bad years, much worse than Covid.

Which means agencies will have some more ,,exciting news" for us soon...

It's quite a cliff SS fell off in October, which is typically my best month.

The beginning of the month was really terrible but from the 13th things started improving a lot.

Freefall...

Stills only.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 06, 2022, 18:58

Quote from: changingsky on October 05, 2022, 09:13

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 03, 2022, 09:02

Quote from: changingsky on September 28, 2022, 14:36
SS desperate to sell? Already several weeks on first load of the contributors page i am redirected to the sales page of SS and only after that step i can access a contributors page. Useless movement as i don't buy there

Not a big defense of them but:   https://submit.shutterstock.com/dashboard

Depends on what link you have in your bookmarks? That should take you to the contributors scuffling for pocket change page. 

++Thank you. It was always submit.shutterstock.com so i was surprised with those redirects. They survey? I use the same URL, no redirect today :-)

Here's another link you might like, but you have to bookmark it, or it will change back to 25  https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings/top-performers?page=1&date_range=0&sort_direction=desc&per_page=100

Top Performers 100 per page by sales $$$

Thank you very much, Pete for the advises. BTW, they started again these redirects 

It's like sales are in a hole.

Shutterstock is down this month but it's not terrible, just too many low commissions. Pond5 is leading so far this month due to the much higher commissions.

Over at Alamy-land, the situation is equally dire.

Crunched some numbers since 2017...