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« Reply #125 on: April 15, 2009, 13:02 »
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If you look at the gauges under our icons, you will see that Richard is far more of a pro than I am.  You should look at the points he makes because they are true.
I did not look at the gauges my friend I am telling because you chose sharp shot as user name you are PRO and I don't think is bad to say that  ???

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I have given a few sites a chance in the past year and so far it hasn't worked out.  I have to be sensible and stop uploading to new sites.  It is a waste of my time unless they can come up with something different that brings in new buyers.  I use over 20 sites and that is too many already.
I understand your point of view, but you know what? we are victims of those 20 sites.. That's what I can say..


RT


« Reply #126 on: April 15, 2009, 16:51 »
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Let me ask you a question RT do you trust BIG 6 photo approving ? please answer  ;)

I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?

If so then you need to understand that microstock sites do not employ their reviewers full time like some of the traditional sites do, neither do they require any qualifications or that the reviewer is a seasoned pro, you can form your own opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing. My view is that microstock sites tend to concentrate more on the technical quality of the image rather than the actual usability or stock worthiness, if you float around with the traditional stock photographers you'll find that many have struggled to get images into microstock because they're used to the image being judged on it's worth for the image content rather than whether there's a technical error no matter how small or relevant.
I think there are some very good reviewers/inspectors within microstock sites but there are also some very bad one's. The same goes for the sites themselves.



« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2009, 17:00 »
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I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?
I am sorry for my bad English..

You said: Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. I am asking you RT do you mean the photos selected on fotomina are not good ?

« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2009, 17:08 »
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i have checked your approved pics... they are good.. i dont like the serie with the bride to much shadows no good pics... but all the others good...

perhaps you must learn that you a agency now... it is not important for you what other people think *g do your way

greets yvonne

RT


« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2009, 17:14 »
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I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?
I am sorry for my bad English..

You said: Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. I am asking you RT do you mean the photos selected on fotomina are not good ?

My fault not only is English not your first language but you probably don't understand sarcasm either so I'll explain.

They might be technically perfect shot on the worlds latest and greatest medium format camera with perfect composistion, however search the portfolios of the top 500 stock photographers in the world and you'll most probably find that there aren't that many photos of the sort that so far fill your inventory - there's a reason for that!

« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2009, 17:16 »
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Hi Yvonne,

Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...

So, I need RT answer please it very important for me...

Waitiong for you RT


« Reply #131 on: April 15, 2009, 17:21 »
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RT can you give me which shots you did not like on fotomina?


« Reply #132 on: April 15, 2009, 17:23 »
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satforce... that is not important.. they are millions of fotografers worldwide how would love your agency.... i you want i can pose in german blogs...

lg yvonne

« Reply #133 on: April 15, 2009, 17:28 »
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http://www.fotomina.com/catalog/7499.html

the whole serie is not good.. too  much shadows.. no good pics sorry

« Reply #134 on: April 15, 2009, 17:36 »
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http://www.fotomina.com/catalog/7499.html

the whole serie is not good.. too  much shadows.. no good pics sorry


Thank you Yvonne I missed it but now it's ok..

« Reply #135 on: April 15, 2009, 18:03 »
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Satforce, you must admit that on Fotomina are many approved images that are really poor in a "stocky" value. Many of them are simply snapshots and I'm wondering who will ever pay for them as long as there are some agencies with milions of great shots. It's a compromise (I guess) that any stock site makes it at it's beginning: anything gets approved to have a quick grow in number of available images. Quality and commercial value is neglected and quantity is preferred.
Give me a good reason and some kind of warranty I'll have sales and I'll join!

« Reply #136 on: April 15, 2009, 18:18 »
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Satforce, you must admit that on Fotomina are many approved images that are really poor in a "stocky" value. Many of them are simply snapshots and I'm wondering who will ever pay for them as long as there are some agencies with milions of great shots. It's a compromise (I guess) that any stock site makes it at it's beginning: anything gets approved to have a quick grow in number of available images. Quality and commercial value is neglected and quantity is preferred.

Hi Ibogdan,

Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images?  :) 

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Give me a good reason and some kind of warranty I'll have sales and I'll join!
You are welcome to join... There is no warranty, I am not selling a laptop to give you warranty for 3 years ;D you have nothing to loose if you upload some files ..That's it ..

Regards

RT


« Reply #137 on: April 15, 2009, 18:40 »
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Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images?  :) 

My last post as I'm not here to run your agency, those type of shots are on the sites you mentioned yes, how many downloads have they got?, read what I said above about microstock sites concentrating on the technical rather than aesthetic quality of an image. Do your research on what actually sells not just what the other sites accept.

The other day I stumbled across some shots on Shutterstock, it was a series (and I mean loads) of a male and female, both looked in their early twenties, eastern european and I swear to god the guy had never worn a suit and tie before, the suit didn't fit the tie (which didn't compliment the rest of the outfit) was half under the collar and he was badly in need of a haircut or even a brush would have helped, the girl was wearing an outfit that looked like her granny wore it for her 21st, both had miserable looking expressions and were standing in the stance only teenagers can manage - the description went along the lines of 'Successful business couple.... blah blah blah'.

Would you accept those images?
If you don't understand what I'm getting at then I really think you should have a back up plan.


« Reply #138 on: April 15, 2009, 18:51 »
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Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images?  :) 

My last post as I'm not here to run your agency, those type of shots are on the sites you mentioned yes, how many downloads have they got?, read what I said above about microstock sites concentrating on the technical rather than aesthetic quality of an image. Do your research on what actually sells not just what the other sites accept.

The other day I stumbled across some shots on Shutterstock, it was a series (and I mean loads) of a male and female, both looked in their early twenties, eastern european and I swear to god the guy had never worn a suit and tie before, the suit didn't fit the tie (which didn't compliment the rest of the outfit) was half under the collar and he was badly in need of a haircut or even a brush would have helped, the girl was wearing an outfit that looked like her granny wore it for her 21st, both had miserable looking expressions and were standing in the stance only teenagers can manage - the description went along the lines of 'Successful business couple.... blah blah blah'.

Would you accept those images?
If you don't understand what I'm getting at then I really think you should have a back up plan.


Yes I understand RT but we are a new agency we can not make decline all submittion just because they will not sell very well..

Thanks


WarrenPrice

« Reply #139 on: April 15, 2009, 19:36 »
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Hi Yvonne,

Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...

So, I need RT answer please it very important for me...

Waitiong for you RT



I think you are not being destroyed.  We "the silent majority' have seen such attacks and sarcasm on several occasions.  It is all part of general disdain for anything new by the folks who have been here the longest.  I think you will find the silent ones are in your corner.  Your best bet now is to "cool it."  You are playing right into their hands. 

Give us time to think it over.  You may not get the "old pros" but several of us less successful and new-to-the-business photographers are considering uploading.  Like you said, "What do we have to lose?"



« Reply #140 on: April 16, 2009, 01:05 »
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Satforce, I may lose time...

« Reply #141 on: April 16, 2009, 02:49 »
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Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...

While some of the comments might seem hurtful, the damage is only emotional.
What matters is the future success of your business.
A lot of valid comments have been brought up.  There is a tendency for owners of startups to block any point of view that does not match their own.  You can choose to constructively act on criticism or not.  The iceberg that you do not see will crash your ship, not the iceberg that insults you on forums.

Honestly, I really wish you and other new stock sites the best of success.
From my personal point of view, it is better for image suppliers (the people on this forum) to deal with the least monopolistic/oligopolistic set of middlemen as possible.

« Reply #142 on: April 16, 2009, 02:54 »
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Thank you kgtoh.. ;)

« Reply #143 on: April 16, 2009, 03:49 »
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While some of the comments might seem hurtful, the damage is only emotional.
What matters is the future success of your business.
A lot of valid comments have been brought up.  There is a tendency for owners of startups to block any point of view that does not match their own.  You can choose to constructively act on criticism or not.  The iceberg that you do not see will crash your ship, not the iceberg that insults you on forums.

Honestly, I really wish you and other new stock sites the best of success.
From my personal point of view, it is better for image suppliers (the people on this forum) to deal with the least monopolistic/oligopolistic set of middlemen as possible.
Actually we are more then happy for all the comments posted here, because we understand that if someone do comment is only to progress the things, I personally more happy if someone criticize me then see the "things going wrong" and be silent !
so please feel free to comment in the way you want !

« Reply #144 on: April 16, 2009, 03:57 »
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This is marketing whether is positive or not, people start to hear about you. Probably this thread filled with critique brought you some of your contributers and maybe will bring more.

« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2009, 04:04 »
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This is marketing whether is positive or not, people start to hear about you. Probably this thread filled with critique brought you some of your contributers and maybe will bring more.
Yeah, that's right  ;D we are looking for more ;)

« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2009, 17:21 »
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i have to say thank you again a lot of my pics go online today.. but you are not very fast... fotolia excepted in serveral times... 500 pics...i dont now your script but it must be faster when you get 10.000 pics a day... you cant work on 1000 - 5 days ... sorry...thats not the way microstock work...

regards yvonne

« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2009, 17:32 »
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i have to say thank you again a lot of my pics go online today.. but you are not very fast... fotolia excepted in serveral times... 500 pics...i dont now your script but it must be faster when you get 10.000 pics a day... you cant work on 1000 - 5 days ... sorry...thats not the way microstock work...

regards yvonne

Hi Yvonne,

I will try to be faster while approving :-[, we have too much of submittion from differents users and we want to give every contributor a chance..  So, please be patient..

 ;)

« Reply #148 on: April 17, 2009, 03:23 »
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Any sale so far?

« Reply #149 on: April 17, 2009, 05:46 »
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Any sale so far?

There is no sale of course :) we will not do like others did, they download two or three pictures for every photographer ;D so the contributor will say OMG I got a sale from the first day and he will stay 5 months with the same amount  ;D Fotomina did not start the marketing plan in terms of buyer, we need to have a good stock before we start, don't worry we have now 1000 photos, we start soon..

Regards


 

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