Just watched the Piers Morgan interview with Trump.  Piers Morgan obviously couldn't question him properly because Trump would of walked out, like he always does when he is asked a difficult question in an interview.  It was a waste of time, Piers Morgan just let him say all the usual lies about the UK.  Trump was trying to tone it down but his ego was still out of control.  All it did was make me like Piers Morgan even less, I thought that wouldn't be possible. 

If Trump ends up winning it'll be the biggest PUNK'D America has ever seen! LOL!

Quote from: goober on March 28, 2016, 18:45

Bernie is a bait and switch.

He points to the 1% as the problem but if he gets elected he will tax the stuffing out of everyone but the 1%. Apparently he had his honeymoon in the communist soviet union. It's unbelievable!

The brain boxes will leave the USA.

Bernie already admitted on Bill Maher that he's going to increase taxes for more than just the 1%. He'll likely increase taxes on the top 10% and people earning less. It's a slippery slope. Everyone is a socialist until they start earning a decent salary.

Quote from: goober on March 28, 2016, 20:56

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The basic premise of the book is that if you have a high income and frugality you accumulate wealth over a lifetime. High earners who are high spenders have nothing to show towards then end of their lives. Their children generally live off the parents wealth. Frugal parents limit what they give their children.

The people that are going to 'feel the Bern' will be the high income frugal savers just underneath the 1%. They'll also be the ones who pick up and move elsewhere when it becomes advantageous.

first, a large proportion of that 10% is INHERITED wealth

but bigger factor is that any increased tax is on INCOME not total wealth -- so even doubling the current tax rate on  this 10% would do little harm to their actual wealth or spending

Quote from: goober on March 28, 2016, 20:56

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The basic premise of the book is that if you have a high income and frugality you accumulate wealth over a lifetime. High earners who are high spenders have nothing to show towards then end of their lives. Their children generally live off the parents wealth. Frugal parents limit what they give their children.

The people that are going to 'feel the Bern' will be the high income frugal savers just underneath the 1%. They'll also be the ones who pick up and move elsewhere when it becomes advantageous.

first, a large proportion of that 10% is INHERITED wealth

but bigger factor is that any increased tax is on INCOME not total wealth -- so even doubling the current tax rate on  this 10% would do little harm to their actual wealth or spending

"The media people are at a loss in trying to deal with Trump.  He doesn't follow the pattern and they don't know how to handle him. "

All they have to do is show him talking.  Every time he speaks, I can't believe how stupid he sounds.  Last night, I caught a clip, and as usual, everything was "tremendous".  It's like a drinking game.

Quote from: goober on March 29, 2016, 21:54

Trump wants to make America great again. What made America great? Protestant Christianity, Calvinism in particular, gave rise to these ideas which were put into practice:

Private ownership of land and property rather than serfdom or slavery was preferable.
Doing right by your neighbour as you would have them do to you allows businesses to flourish.
Unjust scales and weights were an abomination. No fractional reserve money printing.
Charity was voluntary and nobody gives more than protestant Christians.
Husbands loving wives and wives respecting husbands, working together, statistically eliminates poverty.
Protestant work ethic produces prosperity.
Families and Churches take care of elders, widows and orphans - everyone else works.
Limited government and taxation needed due to people taking care of themselves and those around them.
Less sins like murder and theft means less destruction and cost to the community.
Not bearing false witness allows innocent people to live peacefully without fear of retribution.

You and I read different history books.  The founders fled Europe because of religious persecution.   That's why they included the clause in the Constitution prohibiting the establishment of a State religion, commonly referred to as separation of church and state.   The pledge of allegiance did not include the words Under God until the 1950s.  A protestant theocracy was the LAST thing US founders wanted. 

Not to mention that most of the values  you list and attribute to protestantism date back as far as Hammurabi's Code, The Ten Commandments, and Catholicism, all of which predated Martin Luther's Theses and the start of Protestantism by thousands of years.

If you want to live under a theocracy, may I suggest Iran?

Trump wants to make America great again. What made America great? Protestant Christianity, Calvinism in particular, gave rise to these ideas which were put into practice:

Private ownership of land and property rather than serfdom or slavery was preferable.
Doing right by your neighbour as you would have them do to you allows businesses to flourish.
Unjust scales and weights were an abomination. No fractional reserve money printing.
Charity was voluntary and nobody gives more than protestant Christians.
Husbands loving wives and wives respecting husbands, working together, statistically eliminates poverty.
Protestant work ethic produces prosperity.
Families and Churches take care of elders, widows and orphans - everyone else works.
Limited government and taxation needed due to people taking care of themselves and those around them.
Less sins like murder and theft means less destruction and cost to the community.
Not bearing false witness allows innocent people to live peacefully without fear of retribution.

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 30, 2016, 07:27

What made America great was a long period of true economical freedom (long gone now).
A period when private initiatives, entrepreneurship, new ideas could flourish unencumbered by taxation, regulations and other bureaucratic government interventions.

Exactly and the closest candidate of this concept, although still far away, is Trump.

Trump understands economy more than all the others combined, his 35% tax on foreign goods from specific countries would create millions of jobs for anybody who's willing to work. His crackdown on illegal immigration would benefit lower class citizens more than anyone else. Only the free-crap army won't like it.