Author Topic: OMG America!!! (Read 61949 times)

Pixart · « **Reply #150 on:** March 22, 2016, 13:04 »

This video that was on facebook yesterday reminded me of who is running.

I am not going to fact check so I may be passing on more propaganda but quite interesting.
https://youtu.be/aAHMJs-jaDY

PixelBytes · « **Reply #151 on:** March 22, 2016, 13:47 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 22, 2016, 08:47

Quote from: PixelBytes on March 21, 2016, 23:55
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Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on March 21, 2016, 08:39
For some reason I have never liked Hillary

If Bill was running against Drumpf, would you vote for him?

Been watching John Oliver? That was a great piece he did on his show. Hilarious!

Yes...love Oliver. Love him even more after the show licensed one of my illustrations. A very pleasant surprise!

Congrats! Thats a fun surprise to find one of your own on a show you're watching!

PixelBytes · « **Reply #152 on:** March 22, 2016, 13:56 »

Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 11:37

I am a neighbor to to the North. I keep comparing Trump to Toronto's Rob Ford (who passed away this morning). If you don't remember the name he was the obese, crack smoking, heavy drinking, straight shooting, lovable, hateable, football loving kid next door who became Mayor of North America's 4th largest city. People loved/loathed how utterly real he was and the $hit that came out of his mouth was deliciously entertaining (even more so because I was not longer a Toronto resident). He got more than his 5 minutes of U.S. Media and tabloid attention - even appeared on Kimmel. RIP Rob

And how the heck was a baffoon like Rob Ford elected? They say that he was elected by people that never vote. I'm afraid this may happen with Trump. The haters will get off their lazy boys and vote, because for once there is someone who is as much of a racist and misogynist as they are.

Rob Ford is DEAD?!! He was a pretty young guy. Guess the lifestyle killed him. But yeah, he is impossible to forget, charging thru the city assembly like a rhino, looking like Chris Farley on crack. My favorite line of his was "I got plenty to eat at home". ~~Sorry to hear the drugs got him (I assume it was drugs?)~~.

Copidosoma · « **Reply #153 on:** March 22, 2016, 14:01 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on March 22, 2016, 13:56

Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 11:37
I am a neighbor to to the North. I keep comparing Trump to Toronto's Rob Ford (who passed away this morning). If you don't remember the name he was the obese, crack smoking, heavy drinking, straight shooting, lovable, hateable, football loving kid next door who became Mayor of North America's 4th largest city. People loved/loathed how utterly real he was and the $hit that came out of his mouth was deliciously entertaining (even more so because I was not longer a Toronto resident). He got more than his 5 minutes of U.S. Media and tabloid attention - even appeared on Kimmel. RIP Rob

And how the heck was a baffoon like Rob Ford elected? They say that he was elected by people that never vote. I'm afraid this may happen with Trump. The haters will get off their lazy boys and vote, because for once there is someone who is as much of a racist and misogynist as they are.

Rob Ford is DEAD?!! He was a pretty young guy. Guess the lifestyle killed him. But yeah, he is impossible to forget, charging thru the city assembly like a rhino, looking like Chris Farley on crack. My favorite line of his was "I got plenty to eat at home". Sorry to hear the drugs got him (I assume it was drugs?).

It was cancer actually.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #154 on:** March 22, 2016, 14:13 »

Quote from: Copidosoma on March 22, 2016, 14:01

Quote from: PixelBytes on March 22, 2016, 13:56
Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 11:37
I am a neighbor to to the North. I keep comparing Trump to Toronto's Rob Ford (who passed away this morning). If you don't remember the name he was the obese, crack smoking, heavy drinking, straight shooting, lovable, hateable, football loving kid next door who became Mayor of North America's 4th largest city. People loved/loathed how utterly real he was and the $hit that came out of his mouth was deliciously entertaining (even more so because I was not longer a Toronto resident). He got more than his 5 minutes of U.S. Media and tabloid attention - even appeared on Kimmel. RIP Rob

And how the heck was a baffoon like Rob Ford elected? They say that he was elected by people that never vote. I'm afraid this may happen with Trump. The haters will get off their lazy boys and vote, because for once there is someone who is as much of a racist and misogynist as they are.

Rob Ford is DEAD?!! He was a pretty young guy. Guess the lifestyle killed him. But yeah, he is impossible to forget, charging thru the city assembly like a rhino, looking like Chris Farley on crack. My favorite line of his was "I got plenty to eat at home". Sorry to hear the drugs got him (I assume it was drugs?).

It was cancer actually.

Thanks for explaining.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #155 on:** March 22, 2016, 16:41 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 22, 2016, 11:21

Honest, I'm more worried about what's going on in Europe, Belgium, France and with ISIS. The President becomes a figurehead after the election. People overrate the power and control of one person. It's not like the 1800s

Actually it is like the 1880s The President has never had much real power - it was designed that way from the beginning. For example, only Congress can declare war or appropriate funds. The President proposes a budget, but then Congress will do what they want and if they don't appropriate the money then nothing will happen. That's why Trump shows a remarkable lack of understanding about how the Government works when he says he will do things that can only be done with the approval of Congress - it is not like being the CEO of your own company.

However, the President is far more than a figurehead and recent Presidents have found ways to get more power for themselves. A bad President can cause tons of damage, especially if Congress is on their side. They are in charge of diplomacy with foreign countries and can persuade Congress to do the wrong thing. For example, Bush II talked Congress into invading Iraq with faked evidence about weapons of mass destruction, and also as a personal vendetta against Saddam for a supposed plot to assassinate Bush I. A figurehead would not be able to lead the country into war. Who is in charge is very important and those of us who can vote need to take the coming election very seriously.

Leo · « **Reply #156 on:** March 22, 2016, 17:34 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on March 22, 2016, 16:41

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 22, 2016, 11:21
Honest, I'm more worried about what's going on in Europe, Belgium, France and with ISIS. The President becomes a figurehead after the election. People overrate the power and control of one person. It's not like the 1800s

Actually it is like the 1880s The President has never had much real power - it was designed that way from the beginning. For example, only Congress can declare war or appropriate funds. The President proposes a budget, but then Congress will do what they want and if they don't appropriate the money then nothing will happen. That's why Trump shows a remarkable lack of understanding about how the Government works when he says he will do things that can only be done with the approval of Congress - it is not like being the CEO of your own company.

However, the President is far more than a figurehead and recent Presidents have found ways to get more power for themselves. A bad President can cause tons of damage, especially if Congress is on their side. They are in charge of diplomacy with foreign countries and can persuade Congress to do the wrong thing. For example, Bush II talked Congress into invading Iraq with faked evidence about weapons of mass destruction, and also as a personal vendetta against Saddam for a supposed plot to assassinate Bush I. A figurehead would not be able to lead the country into war. Who is in charge is very important and those of us who can vote need to take the coming election very seriously.

I appreciate comments like this that mention history, original intentions, and original structure. That is extremely important.

stockastic · « **Reply #157 on:** March 22, 2016, 17:37 »

I don't think it's correct to say that Bush convinced Congress to invade Iraq. Rather, Bush invaded Iraq and later convinced Congress to pass a resolution supporting what he had already done. Now, with the prospect of an utter fool like Trump as President, we see what a dangerous precedent Bush has set.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #158 on:** March 22, 2016, 17:52 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 22, 2016, 17:37

I don't think it's correct to say that Bush convinced Congress to invade Iraq. Rather, Bush invaded Iraq and later convinced Congress to pass a resolution supporting what he had already done. Now, with the prospect of an utter fool like Trump as President, we see what a dangerous precedent Bush has set.

It depends on the Bush. The first President Bush deployed troops to the Gulf during the second half of 1990 and then asked Congress for a resolution during January of 1991, after he had the troops there but before entering Iraq. Bush II convinced Congress to give him his resolution for war during October of 2002 before invading in March of 2003 (can you remember where you were during the whole "shock and awe" spectacle?). Although it seemed like they both invaded first and asked for resolutions later it isn't exactly true. However, I agree completely about the precedent and how scary it would be if Trump were in charge.

stockastic · « **Reply #159 on:** March 22, 2016, 19:39 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on March 22, 2016, 17:52

Quote from: stockastic on March 22, 2016, 17:37
I don't think it's correct to say that Bush convinced Congress to invade Iraq. Rather, Bush invaded Iraq and later convinced Congress to pass a resolution supporting what he had already done. Now, with the prospect of an utter fool like Trump as President, we see what a dangerous precedent Bush has set.

It depends on the Bush. The first President Bush deployed troops to the Gulf during the second half of 1990 and then asked Congress for a resolution during January of 1991, after he had the troops there but before entering Iraq. Bush II convinced Congress to give him his resolution for war during October of 2002 before invading in March of 2003 (can you remember where you were during the whole "shock and awe" spectacle?). Although it seemed like they both invaded first and asked for resolutions later it isn't exactly true. However, I agree completely about the precedent and how scary it would be if Trump were in charge.

Yes it's coming back to me now. Bush did get a resolution, although not an actual declaration of war. By that point the runup was well under way, the drums were pounding and voting against it would have been political suicide. I'm pretty sure he made it clear the invasion would take place with or without the resolution. And Congress hadn't declared war against Afghanistan, which we'd already attacked. The details don't matter, because someone like Trump doesn't care about legalities or historical precedents.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #160 on:** March 22, 2016, 20:51 »

Let's not forget the president's power to appoint Supreme Court justices. Although congress is getting more and more aggressive and overreaching in it advise and CONSENT function.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #161 on:** March 22, 2016, 21:02 »

Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 13:04

This video that was on facebook yesterday reminded me of who is running.

I am not going to fact check so I may be passing on more propaganda but quite interesting.
https://youtu.be/aAHMJs-jaDY

May I suggest a WARNING that anyone who does not want to look at historic footage of emaciated dead bodies from concentration camps stacked in piles like firewood PASS on watching this one.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #162 on:** March 23, 2016, 01:56 »

Millions Raised and Spent So Far....what a * waste!

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html?ref=politics&_r=0

Chichikov · « **Reply #163 on:** March 23, 2016, 06:42 »

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2R0aGz3xItkVZc5O/giphy.gif

topol · « **Reply #164 on:** March 23, 2016, 08:38 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 16, 2016, 04:20

Quote from: Minscer on March 15, 2016, 20:12
Nothing wrong with Trump winning. People are tired of politicians who promise things and never deliver. People are tried of politicians who are easily bribed by lobbyist groups and help their rich friends get richer.

Trump winning is a shot in the arm for America. He just may be the best candidate in this entire election.
Why would Trump be any different? Do you really think he wont be helping his rich friends and himself get richer? Are people really that naive? The system doesn't work, it really doesn't matter who makes the false promises before the election. I wouldn't trust Trump or Clinton, they both have a shady past.

You seriously think he can do it better this way, than from the behind the scene, hidden from the public eye? That's just pure nonsense. You actually likely to erode most of your ability for corruption if you become the world's most watched person. Going thru all this hassle probably means losing influence for a super rich person. If what you said had any truth to it, the last 3 decades would have been about rich businessmen being candidates, and it never happened - for a good reason

Even if his intentions are shady, it's definitely not business. He is solely losing on the business side with this. An overwhelming sense of pride an ego, to achieve everything there is to be achieved would be the best bet... but people who try smear Trump every way possible don't like mention that, because all that urge to prove himself to the world might work out to the benefit of USA in this situation.

topol · « **Reply #165 on:** March 23, 2016, 08:42 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 22, 2016, 17:37

I don't think it's correct to say that Bush convinced Congress to invade Iraq. Rather, Bush invaded Iraq and later convinced Congress to pass a resolution supporting what he had already done. Now, with the prospect of an utter fool like Trump as President, we see what a dangerous precedent Bush has set.

Like Obama, doing everything thru executive orders.

topol · « **Reply #166 on:** March 23, 2016, 08:52 »

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on March 21, 2016, 02:19

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 20, 2016, 16:53
Quote from: Lizard on March 19, 2016, 16:54
So people are still buying stories about different sides in high politics knowing that governments budgets are nothing more than corporate or private properties and the countries them self are registered companies ?

Chill down, they are just picking a face thats gonna stare at you from the screen more frequently announcing decision which will empty your pockets more explaing how you are gonna benefit from that in the future.

How do you know when a politician is lying? answer, their lips are moving. I trust none of them to be doing anything except what is for their own ego, power and financial gain. Noone with any sense would run for President.

I agree, but still ... still curious to see would Bernie be any different. $:-\$

It baffles he why anyone thinks Bernie is any more honest than the rest of the politicians. I listened to few hours of him, and he shamelessly hurls up old, worn out hypocrisy after hypocrisy, every second sentence. I guess people are even more simple than I thought.

topol · « **Reply #167 on:** March 23, 2016, 08:53 »

Quote from: sooner_foto on March 19, 2016, 09:58

Don't forget - Two-thirds of Trump's wives are/were immigrants.

So what?

topol · « **Reply #168 on:** March 23, 2016, 09:00 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 21, 2016, 05:24

Bernie Sanders might be almost as bad for the US as Trump. High taxes on the rich looks like a good idea but it doesn't work because they get around them and don't pay them. He wants to spend more and wont be able to get more in. So the US would soon be in a mess, as the debt is already $19,135,778,280,520 (will be more by the time you read this ). No idea why people would want to implement something that has already been proven not to work? As the great philosophers Benny Andersson, Björn Ulvaeus and Stig Anderson wrote "The history book on the shelf, is always repeating itself"

Bernie is the worst, even worse than Robot Clinton. The top rich would pay a bit more taxes to save face, not an inch more, so to make up for it, Bernie would tax . out of middle class people to make up for it, most likely totally impoverishing society. All he has to do is make sure his main voting block is told that even families making something like 80 000-150 000+ are some dirty rich top x% ppl, who "need to contribute more"... and from than on, it's gonna be a downward spiral to third world...

topol · « **Reply #169 on:** March 23, 2016, 09:15 »

Quote from: sooner_foto on March 18, 2016, 07:34

Trump likes to talk about winning all the time. The problem with winning is there is one winner and the rest are losers.

Trump wins when he kicks an old lady to the curb to build his casino parking lot. Trump wins when brings in cheap temporary imported labor for his Florida resort.

I'd rather see a politician speak about empowering people and raising up those who are hurting.

The anger show at his rallies comes from people who are losing. What makes them think a self centered, megalomaniac greedy businessman who has built his company around creating gilded play-lands for the rich is going to care about them?

He doesn't care about the middle class - the middle class isn't his customer base.

The "anger show"? It's not Trump supporters disrupting other people's rallies, thinking they don't deserve democracy, it's Trump's rallies that are being sabotaged by thugs.

"Trump wins when he kicks an old lady to the curb to build his casino parking lot. "

That's a lie. You are the angry crowd fed by lies. You are juts seeing yourself in the mirror.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #170 on:** March 23, 2016, 11:42 »

Quote from: topol on March 23, 2016, 09:15

Quote from: sooner_foto on March 18, 2016, 07:34
Trump likes to talk about winning all the time. The problem with winning is there is one winner and the rest are losers.

Trump wins when he kicks an old lady to the curb to build his casino parking lot. Trump wins when brings in cheap temporary imported labor for his Florida resort.

I'd rather see a politician speak about empowering people and raising up those who are hurting.

The anger show at his rallies comes from people who are losing. What makes them think a self centered, megalomaniac greedy businessman who has built his company around creating gilded play-lands for the rich is going to care about them?

He doesn't care about the middle class - the middle class isn't his customer base.

The "anger show"? It's not Trump supporters disrupting other people's rallies, thinking they don't deserve democracy, it's Trump's rallies that are being sabotaged by thugs.

"Trump wins when he kicks an old lady to the curb to build his casino parking lot. "

That's a lie. You are the angry crowd fed by lies. You are juts seeing yourself in the mirror.

Lol. Article about woman who fought Trump's attempt to have her house condemned in order to build a parking lot for one of his casinos:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/kicks-sand-trump-face-sneers-donald-bucks-article-1.815484

Those of us who live in the New York area and have been to Atlantic City are long aware of Trump's bullying of the lower and middle classes to put up his buildings.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #171 on:** March 23, 2016, 11:58 »

Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 13:04

This video that was on facebook yesterday reminded me of who is running.

I am not going to fact check so I may be passing on more propaganda but quite interesting.
https://youtu.be/aAHMJs-jaDY

This statement made by the CBS CEO tells a similar story (speaking about Trump's media coverage):

It May Not Be Good for America, but It’s * Good for CBS

"Man, who would have expected the ride we’re all having right now?” Moonves said.

“The money’s rolling in and this is fun. I’ve never seen anything like this, and this going to be a very good year for us."

“Sorry. It’s a terrible thing to say. But, bring it on, Donald. Keep going."

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Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #172 on:** March 23, 2016, 12:00 »

There's that documentary about him building the golf course in Scotland that's supposed to be good too.

stockastic · « **Reply #173 on:** March 23, 2016, 12:13 »

The U.S. media wants Trump to be elected; it's the political story of a lifetime. To that end they've given him 10 times the coverage of other candidates - free of charge. And they'll continue playing ball with him until the election - by running soft-pitch stories like "Trump refuses to back down" instead of going after his ridiculous and inconsistent statements.

But if Trump somehow manages to get elected, that all changes and the media sets out to bring him down. That's when they'll start to pull all the skeletons out of the closet, and go for his blood. They'll do their best to push it all the way to impeachment. It won't be pretty. Chaos and conflict is what they want, what they sell, and what they know how to create.

stockastic · « **Reply #174 on:** March 23, 2016, 13:39 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 23, 2016, 11:58

Quote from: Pixart on March 22, 2016, 13:04
This video that was on facebook yesterday reminded me of who is running.

I am not going to fact check so I may be passing on more propaganda but quite interesting.
https://youtu.be/aAHMJs-jaDY
This statement made by the CBS CEO tells a similar story (speaking about Trump's media coverage):

It May Not Be Good for America, but It’s * Good for CBS

"Man, who would have expected the ride we’re all having right now?” Moonves said.

“The money’s rolling in and this is fun. I’ve never seen anything like this, and this going to be a very good year for us."

“Sorry. It’s a terrible thing to say. But, bring it on, Donald. Keep going."

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

These statements by Moonves are beneath contempt. I wonder if - even in the jaded world of media greed - he's gotten some pushback by investors on this. Nah.

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