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« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2015, 20:04 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.
You are seriously equating all Communists and Socialists with so-called IS?
OK, that gives me your intellectual measure.

My intellectual measure includes reading some history. You should try it. Its about extremists who try to control the way people think and live. Mao and Stalin killed millions. These Islamists aren't much different.


« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2015, 20:05 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2015, 20:05 »
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Quote

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

I'd love if you would continue for a bit with the social and political groups instead of posting "etc".
Im sure that if you continued, a bit further down the line,pretty much everyone (except you apparently) , would find themselves fitting in the description of what you call evil.

fritz

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« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2015, 20:06 »
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And for a fact, the U.S. did not arm them. We armed other rebels opposed to the Syrian regime, and ISIS took their weapons.
So, albeit indirectly, the US (and other countries) DID, in fact, arm them.

So what? It has nothing to do with anything. Should we arrest Obama for arming Syrian rebels and then later have those arms captured by ISIS? Or do we take on the people who are the real problem?

The real problem is US foreign policy which is the ROOT of most problems in the world!

« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2015, 20:10 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

 >:( Shame on you for putting communists and socialists in the same basket as ISIS!!! (vomit)

ShadySue

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« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2015, 20:11 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.
You are seriously equating all Communists and Socialists with so-called IS?
OK, that gives me your intellectual measure.

My intellectual measure includes reading some history. You should try it. Its about extremists who try to control the way people think and live. Mao and Stalin killed millions. These Islamists aren't much different.
You know nothing of my education, so make no assumptions.
My comment was on you implicitly equating all Communists and Socialists with so-called IS.
History also teaches that extreme Right-wing dictators have killed, and continue to kill their opponents. Hitler and the Ayatollahs, for example.
Because there is little difference in the way extreme Left, extreme Left and many other extremes, operate.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States

« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2015, 20:13 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2015, 20:13 »
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I had Na_zis in there but it got autocorrected.

I agree with you. Extremist governments that put the state above individual rights like freedom of speech and freedom of religion are bad whether they are left or right.

« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2015, 20:15 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

Typical. Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people. Did I insult you? No. I just have a different point of view. You should go join ISIS. You would fit in.

« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2015, 20:18 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

Typical. Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people. Did I insult you? No. I just have a different point of view. You should go join ISIS. You would fit in.

No one here like or support ISIS. But some people did, and keep doing....

« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2015, 20:19 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

Typical. Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people. Did I insult you? No. I just have a different point of view. You should go join ISIS. You would fit in.

I am calling Leaf on this one.... isn't this an insult?
Shame on you, senior MSG member!
« Last Edit: November 16, 2015, 20:21 by KnowYourOnions »

« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2015, 20:21 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

Typical. Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people. Did I insult you? No. I just have a different point of view. You should go join ISIS. You would fit in.

No one here like or support ISIS. But some people did, and keep doing....

Yes. You're supporting them by supporting inaction.

« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2015, 20:22 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?

Who create them?

People like this have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *, Communists, Socialists, etc.

You are afraid of being a victim of ISIS, but you refuse to understand the truth behind the whole thing. You just want to stop them somehow. It doesn't work in that way. Even you stop them, there will be another group supported by someone for some reason and they will continue what ISIS is doing now. You have to kill the cause, not the result.

ISIS is the cause. The murders in Paris are the result.

Your little brain... People like you have always existed. They have just gone by different names like *******

Typical. Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people. Did I insult you? No. I just have a different point of view. You should go join ISIS. You would fit in.

I am calling Leaf on this one.... isn't this an insult!
Shame on you, senior MSG member!

Go ahead. If you can't win an argument, cry about it and try to shut up people who disagree.

« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2015, 20:25 »
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Yes. You're supporting them by supporting inaction.
.

My point is we have to stop not only ISIS, but also possible such group that can appear in future. If you cannot understand what I say, I don't want to argue with you. I know how bad terrorism is as many people in my country seriously affected by that. World can be a better place if we can stop terrorism completely, not temporarily.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2015, 20:31 »
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Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people.
You were the one who insulted socialists and communists by equating them with so-called IS.
I live in a country with a very proud democratic Socialist history during the last hundred years or so, and not a dictator in sight.
Therefore I feel your ignorant comment as a insult to my nationality.

« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2015, 20:32 »
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Yes. You're supporting them by supporting inaction.
.

My point is we have to stop not only ISIS, but also possible such group that can appear in future. If you cannot understand what I say, I don't want to argue with you. I know how bad terrorism is as many people in my country seriously affected by that. World can be a better place if we can stop terrorism completely, not temporarily.

I'd be happy if we could stop all terrorism forever. I don't know how.

Until then, we have to do everything we can to root out ISIS and other terrorist groups that we can get our hands on. It has to be a worldwide effort. The U.S., Russia, China, Europe, "moderate" countries in the Middle East, we all have to come together to repudiate ISIS and those who support it.

« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2015, 20:36 »
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Leftwing people always bring out the insults when they disagree with people.
You were the one who insulted socialists and communists by equating them with so-called IS.
I live in a country with a very proud democratic Socialist history during the last hundred years or so, and not a dictator in sight.
Therefore I feel your ignorant comment as a insult to my nationality.

I don't see how since I have no idea what your nationality is nor did I attack you personally, at least not until after you attacked me personally. Criticizing socialists isn't a personal attack on you anymore than you beating on the U.S. is a personal attack on me. That would be ridiculous.

I personally don't see much difference between socialism and islamist philosophy. They both seek to control people, and both have a history of using extreme violence to do it.

If you're from Sweden or Denmark or something, those countries aren't really socialist. They're market economies with larger welfare states. I don't consider them socialist.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2015, 20:41 by robhainer »

« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2015, 23:53 »
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Have we all missed the fact here that this attack like the Charlie Hebdo attack was orchestrated and executed by people who were born and lived in France?
Yes i think we have.
It's not like we dont know at this point (but choose to ignore it) how a young Algerian-french black mueslim has it in the ghettos,just like a black young mueslim living in London and how these experiences form him and push him towards islam
Makes you see from a different perspective the quote "we will bring the war back to you".
Once again public dialogue as orchestrated by the media has (deliberately) failed in addressing the situation.
All this crap in the media agenda about refugees and passports and bombing Syria is nothing but blowing dust to the eyes.


« Reply #118 on: November 17, 2015, 00:35 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?


Who create them?


Who buys cheap oil from Isis?

« Reply #119 on: November 17, 2015, 01:43 »
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Of course, but attacks in Beirut, Damascus or Bagdad are not unexpected. The whole region is an unstable civil war zone.

Paris,London and New York are not known to be at war, an attack there is something new.

Moreover these are truly global cities probably visited by over a billion people have once in their life visited them, studied or worked there.

They are places millions of people around the world dream to move to, places we believe you can live safely and in peace.

More people around the world have some kind of emotional connection to Paris, than to Damascus or large cities in Africa that also have many attacks and violence.

The terrorists know this, an attack there will get them more attention and a lot more money from their supporters than an attack in Beirut.

If we do get monthly attacks in France, it wont be front page news anymore. That is just the way media works.

Even in the Middle East many people are more shocked about attacks in Paris or London than at home. Especially, if they have sent their children to school or to study there, hoping they have sent them to a safe place.
That's just too bad, but not uncommon for people to consider Middle East and Africa as dangerous and unstable places. Ask yourself, how many attacks were there in Beirut this year and how many in Paris?
There are safer places in the Middle East and Africa than in France. There are no terrorist attacks in let's say Lilongwe or Amman or Muscat or Kigali.

Speaking to people in the field, whether they are Egyptians, Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, Israeli or bedouins, all say the same thing, the West doesn't care about our lives. Even Facebook has a double standard here. Sad.

« Reply #120 on: November 17, 2015, 02:23 »
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I think we shouldn't discuss topics unrelated to micro at all. It just creates conflict and weaken our position as contributors. There are many political blogs where you will find people who share the same views, it's more productive and less stressful for all. I will start by myself, hope you guys join in.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 02:31 by Nikovsk »

« Reply #121 on: November 17, 2015, 08:35 »
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Well i dont know about you or anyone else here ,but im not feeling stressed at all,actually a bit refreshed, which is the side effect of honestly expressing your opinion in public whether people like it or not.
I remain productive and i dont think im losing face as contributor or weaking my resolve or my determination for anything really.

Of course if i were of the same mindset as you are i would propably post this in the same scope as you posted, which implies that either this is a bootcamp where we are all in unity and internal struggle lowers out strength and mind (a bit fascist in its philosophy) ,or that you are nothing more than a hypocrite who was booed and stepped back and decided to do a tactical retreat for the sake of us all.
Oh the humanity....

« Reply #122 on: November 17, 2015, 09:07 »
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I find it disappointing so many people here don't support doing anything about ISIS. They control land and have a standing Army.

Who armed them?


Who create them?


Who buys cheap oil from Isis?

No idea. I know the U.S. doesn't. We don't get oil from the Middle East anymore. Most of it is either homegrown or from Canada.

« Reply #123 on: November 17, 2015, 09:10 »
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I think we shouldn't discuss topics unrelated to micro at all. It just creates conflict and weaken our position as contributors. There are many political blogs where you will find people who share the same views, it's more productive and less stressful for all. I will start by myself, hope you guys join in.

Why would I want to post on a blog with people who share my views? You learn nothing by listening to your own echo.

This is what ISIS wants: A world where everything thinks and acts the same. I pity people who live in places where they can be put in jail or worse for criticizing their government. I don't understand how they don't have an immediate revolution when that happens, even if their fellow citizens have different beliefs.

Society is strengthened, not weakened, by having a diversity of opinions
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 09:19 by robhainer »

« Reply #124 on: November 17, 2015, 10:52 »
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Ok, after reading this...I got to say. It's a mess!  :(

"For just $250, one smuggler based in Sulaymaniyah promises to deliver a fake Syrian passport, ID card or birth certificate within 10 days. A second forger in Duhok says he can procure a passport, allegedly with the help of a Syrian embassy official, within four days for a premium price of $2,500."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/17/how-easy-is-it-to-buy-fake-syrian-passport

We have people to interview migrants and the purpose of this interview is to establish nationality, said Ewa Moncure, a Frontex spokeswoman. They may say no, this persons accent is not from Syria and if they have any doubt they will ask follow-up questions, to test a migrants knowledge of life in Syria. But Moncure admitted that not all Greek islands were staffed with specialists who can examine the authenticity of passports. You cant say that wherever there is Frontex activity, there is a document expert.



 

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