Quote from: ShadySue on August 10, 2022, 13:26
There's a timely cartoon in the Eye which has just dropped in. Bloke is standing in his front garden where there's a 'spout'. Bloke from Southern Water is handing him a fine. Bloke says "I'm not using a sprinkler. It's one of your leaks".

I still subscribe to the Eye because I want to support their reporting but most issues remain unopened. I get too depressed reading it. I like to pretend the UK is less corrupt than the US. Reading the Eye made me realise if anything we are worse and our media and establishment is so thoroughly bought out we don't get to hear about it 99% of the time. At least some parts of the US aren't entirely dominated by FOX 

Quote from: Wilm on August 10, 2022, 09:34
Since 2012, there have been studies that conclude that it is not just the issue of water that is a problem with fracking, but the release of methane. There are studies that conclude that fracking gas could have a worse climate footprint than coal, for example.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/fracking-boom-tied-to-methane-spike-in-earths-atmosphere

Whether this is true or influenced by some vested interests, I don't know either, of course.

As I said before, anti-fracking activists tend to compare fracking to green energy, instead of comparing it to conventional drilling. Apple and Oranges.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/fracking-gas-leaks-no-worse-than-at-conventional-wells/

"Calculated as a percentage of production, the fracked wells were far less leaky. The conventional wells ranged from 0.35 percent to a nightmarish 91 percent for an average of 10.5 percent leakage"

Banning fracking and nuclear, while reopening coal plants and building gas pipes to Russia, is bad for the climate and for humanity!

Quote from: cascoly on August 09, 2022, 18:52

Quote from: SVH on August 08, 2022, 21:32.... You can live by your guilt, as a German, and you should actually, messing up two times in recent history, but it will not help to stay in this politcally correct posture. ...

this lightly veiled insult is disgusting!  bringing up 80 yr old history only makes your position worse

So it is ok, according to you, that Wilm compares me with slave drivers for no reason at all because he thinks he reads something in my post that isn't there:

Quote from: Wilm on August 08, 2022, 20:40
This thought system might originate so or similarly still from the times of the slavery where the "supermen" were of the opinion to be allowed to tell the "submen" what they are allowed to do or should do in their life.

And you also think it's just fine when Wilm wished I didn't exist and he rather had ten people else then me on this earth:

Quote from: Wilm on August 08, 2022, 20:40
You should think once about it whether it would not be better if there would not be you instead of 10 new people in the countries of which you write.

And then I can't pinch him back a little with his German heritage (using the same thinking and reasoning as he does)?

And what position are you talking about? I'm just to here to make my own point like everyone else does. The personal insult came from Wilm.

So get over your self cascoly!

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on August 10, 2022, 13:53
At least some parts of the US aren't entirely dominated by FOX 

actually the % of viewers is low for all cable news -Fox, the leader, has only about 3-4 million viewers

Quote from: cascoly on August 10, 2022, 17:09

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on August 10, 2022, 13:53
At least some parts of the US aren't entirely dominated by FOX 

actually the % of viewers is low for all cable news -Fox, the leader, has only about 3-4 million viewers

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Quote from: cascoly on August 10, 2022, 17:09

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on August 10, 2022, 13:53
At least some parts of the US aren't entirely dominated by FOX 

actually the % of viewers is low for all cable news -Fox, the leader, has only about 3-4 million viewers

We don't have cable, which saves money and solves that problem. Over The Air, Hulu and Netflix - on a Roku. There's more but still, I won't pay $100 a month for 350 stations that I don't want to watch.

Here's a problem. Say we had the impossible and zero carbon emissions, starting in 2023. If I'm not doing some really bad math or terribly flawed logic, it would take until 2223 to adjust for the last 200 years of industrialization, pollution and carbon.

And for those into doom and gloom, many scientists have said, we are probably way past the tipping point, aka point of no return, for stopping the climate change, whatever that might eventually be. Models are adjusted every time we get more data and the previous models have been wrong. Terrible thought, but we just don't know.