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Post by: Uncle Pete on February 25, 2020, 21:25
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)
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Post by: cathyslife on February 26, 2020, 00:58
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)


I never pronounced that way. It would start with a j if it were supposed to sound like jif. 😀
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Post by: Stu49 on February 26, 2020, 02:23
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)

Geoffrey starts with a G  but we don't say gefry !!  ;-)

What peanut butter  ??? 
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Post by: increasingdifficulty on February 26, 2020, 03:15
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)

Both "JIF" and "GIF" (g sound as in graphics) are correct. I would use the latter.
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Post by: increasingdifficulty on February 26, 2020, 03:18
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)

Geoffrey starts with a G  but we don't say gefry !!  ;-)

What peanut butter  ???

How about gift, get, giggle, gimmick, girl, gig?
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Post by: Lola Ginabrigeta on February 26, 2020, 04:43
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)

Correction https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/2/25/21147389/jif-peanut-butter-giphy-settle-gif-pronunciation-debate (https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/2/25/21147389/jif-peanut-butter-giphy-settle-gif-pronunciation-debate) they are not the same. But the creator of GIF says they are. Now I don't know.
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Post by: fotoVoyager on February 26, 2020, 04:49
I always figured that as it stands for Graphic Interface Format it was a hard G from Graphic.
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Post by: Mimi the Cat on February 26, 2020, 06:26
Nope its a lower case g or soft g

so guh if  ;D

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Post by: fotoVoyager on February 26, 2020, 07:30
Nope its a lower case g or soft g

so guh if  ;D

That’s what I meant - doh!
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Post by: Uncle Pete on February 26, 2020, 10:54
I always figured that as it stands for Graphic Interface Format it was a hard G from Graphic.

It seems that the GIF originator and Jif peanut butter people, don't actually agree. I'd have to read the correction and the story again. Oh wait, yes they do. Sure is confusing.

" in the eyes of the creator of the GIF, Steve Wilhite. He declared in 2013 that the acronym “GIF” should be pronounced “Jif.”"

To be honest I've pronounced them both the same, and I don't eat peanut butter, so no bias.  ;)


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Post by: RobertreelfQJ on March 17, 2020, 20:12
For sure, microstockgroup.com isn't a perfect place to share my equestrian hobby, but I have to start somewhere, so I thought that this category will be ok.
 
 
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Post by: Uncle Pete on March 18, 2020, 06:55
For sure, microstockgroup.com isn't a perfect place to share my equestrian hobby, but I have to start somewhere, so I thought that this category will be ok.

If you take photos of equestrian subjects and upload to stock, you are in the right place?  ;D
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Post by: MatHayward on March 18, 2020, 12:31
Both GIF and the peanut butter are pronounced "Jif."

Why didn't I think of this Subject before? :)

I've always said "Jif" however I was recently educated on the fact that GIF is an acronym for Graphics Interchange Format.

Unless we are pronouncing "Graphics" wrong and it's supposed to be "Jraphics" I think the intent for GIF is a hard G.

Now I'm craving peanut butter.

-Mat
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Post by: PeterChigmaroff on March 18, 2020, 15:39
There is general rule for this, (note how you just said jeneral not "G"eneral.

Usually, a c or g sound is hard or soft depending on the vowel that follows it. Here's the general rule: When c or g meets a, o, or u, its sound is hard. When c or g meets e, i, or y, its sound is soft.
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Post by: k_t_g on March 18, 2020, 22:52
Do I detect a bit of cabin fever here?  ;D
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Post by: Uncle Pete on March 19, 2020, 09:11
Do I detect a bit of cabin fever here?  ;D

Well at least it's not name calling or arguing about reviews and sales?  ;D

Actually the way I read it, the guy who designed the graphic interchange and the peanut butter people, actually agree? It's the same.

Anyone want to apply the rules to Gigabyte? Jig a bite I saw Back to the Future, who can doubt Doc Brown?

By the way, I've pronounced GIFs with the hard G myself.

Steve Wilhite created the Graphics Interchange Format: "It's pronounced JIF, not GIF." From the man himself? Who's going to tell him that he's wrong?

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Post by: PeterChigmaroff on March 19, 2020, 09:37
Do I detect a bit of cabin fever here?  ;D

Well at least it's not name calling or arguing about reviews and sales?  ;D

Actually the way I read it, the guy who designed the graphic interchange and the peanut butter people, actually agree? It's the same.

Anyone want to apply the rules to Gigabyte? Jig a bite I saw Back to the Future, who can doubt Doc Brown?

By the way, I've pronounced GIFs with the hard G myself.

Steve Wilhite created the Graphics Interchange Format: "It's pronounced JIF, not GIF." From the man himself? Who's going to tell him that he's wrong?

Interesting in the early days I would hear people say Jigabyte. These rules have many exceptions but help explain why you hear Jif
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Post by: pancaketom on March 19, 2020, 13:26
Gerrymander is another interesting one, as the original politician it was named for had a hard G - but most people say "jerrymander".
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Post by: Uncle Pete on March 19, 2020, 15:30
Gerrymander is another interesting one, as the original politician it was named for had a hard G - but most people say "jerrymander".

Now I learned two new things today: "The origin of the term gerrymander dates back to the early 1800s in Massachusetts. The word is a combination of the words Gerry, for the state's governor, Elbridge Gerry, and salamander, as a particular electoral district was jokingly said to be shaped like a lizard."

Thanks
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Post by: SuperPhoto on March 20, 2020, 07:56
Yes, it is pronounced "j"iff, although some people like to be different and say "g"iff with a soft g.

& haha, I thought "everyone" knew gif meant graphics interchange format, I probably learned that about 25 years ago when gifs started first becoming popular in Netscape - and the fact you could animate an image was "magic".

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Post by: Uncle Pete on March 20, 2020, 11:26
Yes, it is pronounced "j"iff, although some people like to be different and say "g"iff with a soft g.

& haha, I thought "everyone" knew gif meant graphics interchange format, I probably learned that about 25 years ago when gifs started first becoming popular in Netscape - and the fact you could animate an image was "magic".

Or Twain compliant is another good one: Technology with an interesting name. No kidding, someone created that protocol and has a sense of humor.

(or liked Samuel Clements? Or thought that something that linked between TWO devices or Twain, would have a cute name?)
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Post by: ArenaCreative on April 24, 2020, 15:53
People who pronounce it like the peanut butter, are usually serial killers and rapists.  ;D
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Post by: alan b traehern on June 07, 2022, 15:04
What does this mean, when does it end? Pride month and another letter added. LGBTQIA I get the first 4 but then things start to get lost. Is Q for questionable, I for I don't know.
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Post by: Uncle Pete on June 08, 2022, 16:28
What does this mean, when does it end? Pride month and another letter added. LGBTQIA I get the first 4 but then things start to get lost. Is Q for questionable, I for I don't know.

Jif and Gif are the same because the person who named it says so. The End  8)

I had to look this up:  lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer (or questioning), intersex, and asexual (or allies)

By the way the lesbians I know (majority not 100% of them) call them self Dykes and the Gay men I know say they are Queers.

I think the Q in the alphabet soup was originally to represent Questionable or Questioning? Why would Gay be there twice? But being none of the above and not politically correct or in tune, what would I know?

I thought as a tag to irrelevant off topic I'd add that Avocados are now considered unsustainable:
"The increasing demand for this tasty fruit in America is not sustainable. As a result of the demand from the US for avocados, farmers in Mexico are influenced to increase the size of their farms, which is now leading to environmental issues including deforestation and increased greenhouse gas emissions." Ah yes, another cause of global warming = Avocados.

I hope the woke millennials get a grasp on this, so I can get mine again for salads without the inflated prices.  ;)

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Post by: DavidK on June 08, 2022, 16:43
What does this mean, when does it end? Pride month and another letter added. LGBTQIA I get the first 4 but then things start to get lost. Is Q for questionable, I for I don't know.

Jif and Gif are the same because the person who named it says so. The End  8)

Nope, not good enough! Unless of course he pronounces graphic as jraphic then I’m afraid the hard gr rule applies to the acronym as well. On the other hand I pronounce jiffy as heefy in honour of my adopted second home. That’s within the rules.
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Post by: cascoly on June 08, 2022, 17:19
What does this mean, when does it end? Pride month and another letter added. LGBTQIA I get the first 4 but then things start to get lost. Is Q for questionable, I for I don't know.

Jif and Gif are the same because the person who named it says so. The End  8)

Nope, not good enough! Unless of course he pronounces graphic as jraphic then I’m afraid the hard gr rule applies to the acronym as well. On the other hand I pronounce jiffy as heefy in honour of my adopted second home. That’s within the rules.

i was developing multiplayer online games in the late 80s for Compuserve when GIFs were introduced and no one there used the hard g

should we also change general, genus, generic, genital, geometry, geology & dozens more?

https://www.proofreadingservices.com/pages/words-that-sound-like-j-but-start-with-g (https://www.proofreadingservices.com/pages/words-that-sound-like-j-but-start-with-g)
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Post by: DavidK on June 08, 2022, 17:27
Lol, gigabyte, giggle, girth, gadfly, garbage, garbanzo, gunsmith, and gnat. I know the g is supposed to be semi-silent there But I like to pronounce it for dramatic effect.
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Post by: KimC on June 09, 2022, 03:35
I just want to know if JPEG will remain JPEG or maybe should be pronoinced GEPJ or JPEJ or GPEG. It does not matter much, it won't sell for more than 10 cents anyway.
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Post by: Uncle Pete on June 10, 2022, 11:42
I just want to know if JPEG will remain JPEG or maybe should be pronoinced GEPJ or JPEJ or GPEG. It does not matter much, it won't sell for more than 10 cents anyway.

Well if we use the Gif vs Jiff adjustment would it become J pesh  ;D  or J paghe?

Wilhite and the team who developed the file format included in the technical specifications that the acronym was to be pronounced with a soft g. In the specifications, the team wrote that "choosy programmers choose ... 'jif'", in homage to the peanut butter company Jif's advertising slogan of "choosy moms choose Jif"

If the programmers who designed it say it's like peanut butter, then it is. If I was arguing the other side, usage defines what's in the dictionary, so GIF with the hard G is also correct.

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Post by: farbled on June 10, 2022, 17:28
This is my contribution to the debate on pronunciation, going by when it was first used.

"Old English words with G underwent a sound shift where the Gs became Ys, so, since GIF is an English-made word, the correct pronunciation is "yiff""

:)

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Post by: Uncle Pete on June 12, 2022, 11:33
Today is the Flag Day celebration in Waubeka Wisconsin. Pop. 640

(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2020/07/1280/720/530d3148-flag1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

I'm the one playing the orange drum. Some day I'd really like to wrap it is something like Red White and Blue with stars? Valerie is the flag girl behind the color guard. In 2020 someone called off the parade and celebration. Covid, remember? The locals said "Hell no, we're going to have it." So with the county Sheriff's deputies blocking traffic, volunteer firefighters and their equipment, and anyone else who got the word, there was an abbreviated version of the parade.

On June 14, 1885, Bernard Cigrand, a teacher in Waubeka (an unincorporated part of Fredonia in Ozaukee County), put an American flag on his desk at Stony Hill School and asked his students to write an essay about the flag's importance.

The date mattered: On June 14, 1777, the Continental Congress formally adopted the Stars and Stripes as the flag of the new, still-embattled nation.


I'm charging batteries, we're skipping the parade this year. Fireworks = timelapse? Maybe a composite shot, of close up edit for a background... which will languish somewhere in the world of Microstock.

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/bright-purple-green-trail-light-600w-1877230204.jpg)

But just for the purpose of maybe anyone who has some flag photos or anything patriotic for the US, you might see some minor activity?