Quote from: Semmick Photo on September 11, 2017, 02:10

So you bring a treadmill into a coffee shop?

Yes Idiot. I brought a treadmill into a coffeeshop. You drinking again? BTW I ignored you from Day 1 Just wanted to see if you were still a Idiot......YEP! Back to Ignore Just Like SS.
Ebay was great in the beginning probably before Most of you had computers LOL....Yes Craigs List is Local. Or Pick a state or county.LA is Big enough For me. I found this Place, Theres a buyer for anything. Learn to write a good ad.. really good people they Only sell the best at best prices. I bought stuff here also. Like new , Half price.
https://www.mpb.com/en-us/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-nikon-digital-slr-cameras/

I read this and couldn't help but picture an orange skinned dude with small hands and a comb over saying it as part of a speech. 

Good impersonation.

Used to trade used photo gear on eBay until 2006. Up until then it was fine. Then they started charging commission on the postage and later making it so that only buyers could leave negative feedback on sellers but not the other way around.
In the old days eBay was fun and easy now it's so burdenened with rules and regs that coupled with their policy of stealing the cash off your Preypal account and giving it to the buyer if the buyer claims they never received the goods, I never ever sell there now.
Got scammed once by a guy in China who gave an address in France (he bought miniatures of booze in France so it was probably a mate's address). Then he claimed never to have received it but he changed his eBay address to China the next day after I sent it to France. Had a screenshot of the two addresses but it made no difference to eBay/Paypal....they just removed the full payment from my account and gave it to him and then charged me all the fees on top.
Lost more than �200 on that little scam and have never used them to sell anything again.
I will still buy small things on eBay because the whole place is heavily weighted towards the buyer but they definitely don't deserve anyone's business as a vendor.

Good summary.  Today, I wouldn't sell anything of significant value on ebay.   Especially cameras.  When it's time to upgrade, I either sell the old one cheap to a friend or relative, or just trade it in at the store. Ebay isn't worth the risk and the hassle.

I've had a number of infringement hassles regarding my images in a number of countries, but ebay do not reply if you can contact them at all, as a result I don't use them anymore.

I like eBay because it remembers me the microstock business: you can buy a Ferrari for $1

LOL do they still have the WW II motorcycles in a crate or Army surplus jeeps for $50? Is it up to Ferrari's and Corvette's now?

I've hesitated to answer this subject but I've had good and bad experiences on eBay, and many worse experience on Craigslist. Most of my eBay sales are smooth and without problems, now and then I get some buyer who's just stupid, or can't read English. I write very clear accurate descriptions, add many photos, explain anything I can, and rarely have a problem. Buying is where I had the bad experience.

People lie or leave out the truth. Better yet on eBay is sellers who make up the truth because they don't know what they are selling. Then if you write and tell them, they tell you to piss off and block you. Coins will be unsearched rolls, and we're supposed to believe that lie? Everything is rare even if you can go buy the same thing at Walmart. It's a mine field of liars and cheats, along with many honest sellers with things to make some spare cash.

eBay is also known as the biggest fence in the world for stolen goods.

My answer is caution, read carefully, don't allow new people to bid, and for me I block anything other than Canada or the US from bidding.

Craigslist I get the phony check scam over and over. They will mail a check for more and I'm supposed to ship the item and return the extra to them. The check clears and is found out to be a fake two weeks later. They have the goods and the money and I have to cover the fees and amount of the fraud check. Don't bother.

I'm not the first or last to write this. If it's too good to be true, it most likely isn't.

I still buy and sell on eBay often, with the buyer protection and paypal holding funds until satisfaction, things have gotten better.

I just sold 2 lenses on ebay that went off without a hitch, tho I was holding my breath the whole time. But I did have a couple people try to scam me. I always sell with the Buy It Now feature. Ebay also allows Make an Offer. So the scammers would make me an offer for more than I was asking. I googled it...apparently they pay with stolen credit cards. So I would have shipped the product, then would never have gotten paid. So I changed the limits on what can be offered. I guess the crooks think everyone is greedy and will take the higher offer. What a shame...ebay used to be good.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on September 11, 2017, 02:10

So you bring a treadmill into a coffee shop?

Yes Idiot. I brought a treadmill into a coffeeshop. You drinking again?

I only see this reply now.
Why is this guy allowed to use such an offensive language on this forum?

Where is Leaf?

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2018, 05:34

Quote from: rinderart on February 18, 2018, 01:35

Quote from: Semmick Photo on September 11, 2017, 02:10

So you bring a treadmill into a coffee shop?

Yes Idiot. I brought a treadmill into a coffeeshop. You drinking again?

I only see this reply now.
Why is this guy allowed to use such an offensive language on this forum?

Where is Leaf?

Seriously? With all the other BS and bad manners going on here, you are singling Laurin out because he used the word idiot? In days past, Ron would have used just as �offensive� language towards Laurin and everyone else. LOL

I would have singled out anyone making such unacceptable personal attacks.

Who is this rinderart to deserve special treatment?

Leaf should make a point to insure that this place is a place for debates, not for insults.

In a perfect world.

In this case it is up to Leaf to make it "more perfect" and up to you to stop defending the indefensible.

From the member agreement when you sign up.
� We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

Have bought nice used lenses from eBay.

Quote from: cathyslife on April 07, 2018, 07:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2018, 05:34

Quote from: rinderart on February 18, 2018, 01:35

Quote from: Semmick Photo on September 11, 2017, 02:10

So you bring a treadmill into a coffee shop?

Yes Idiot. I brought a treadmill into a coffeeshop. You drinking again?

I only see this reply now.
Why is this guy allowed to use such an offensive language on this forum?

Where is Leaf?

Seriously? With all the other BS and bad manners going on here, you are singling Laurin out because he used the word idiot? In days past, Ron would have used just as �offensive� language towards Laurin and everyone else. LOL

Back in the old times Laurin and Ron would have battled until near death. Gladiators, both of them. 

Yes, I think Rinder showed great restraint in using just the word �idiot.� 

Dont know where you guys are But I had some very Nice vintage fender Elec Guitars Strats and teles. theres a new deal around Here So Cal. Called Nextdoor. very popular and sold Both Guitars, Very quickly. cash and a lot of cash.

My experience of doing business on eBay is that it is full of untrustworthy buyers, scammers. eg, I was selling a Hassleblad digital camera and lens etc. I had an offer to send it to an address  in California, so I googled the address and it was a derelict building on the edge of town.
And in Aus, all buyers want to do is beat your price down, auctions no luck.
We have a thing called Gumtree which I think is world wide, that is not as bad but still issues with buyers.
In the past I sold an item to someone in the same city, during the sale process they winged about pricing because they had lived in singapore and how bad Australia was, then once the item was delivered they complained to eBay about the product and I did not get my money for weeks, after contacting eBay on numerous occasions and had some kind of restrictions on my eBay account. There was nothing wrong with the product this person was just horrid.
The way I do business on these platforms now is I send the item when the money is in my bank account, not just on PayPal or cash on delivery.
Really sad that a few bad people spoil it for evryone.

Problem with feebay and preypal is that even if you have removed the buyer's payment from your paypal account to your bank account, you're still not safe because your agreement with preypal says they can still raid your credit card account or bank account to retrieve monies they consider owed.
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Have you actually sold anything on ebay? i've sold over 20,000 items since 1999 and have only a few chargebacks without getting the item returned and those cases were due to faulty tracking on  intl deals.  in other cases, paypal did send a refund without return but did NOT charge me - they absorbed it - part of their seller protection policy