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But I am sure for some people even with the ever falling sales on istock, it is more comfortable to stay exclusive and just make up for the missing income by doing something else.


make $ense, considering too that you already have that portfolio and placement with IS. and having to submit to SS does not necessarily mean all your portfolio will be approved. i recall even here on MSG certain ppl saying what IS takes SS rejects and v v.
so there is no certainty u can import 100% of your IS port over all the other sites as well. unless u pull SS chain to parachute them .

+1 cobalt

1702
Dreamstime.com / Re: Nightmare on Dreamstime
« on: August 03, 2014, 17:35 »
Are you one of the guys that would do the same tomato from a hundred angles - do you think that a buyer on a site that would accept them all would buy all 100?

no, not tomato; maybe golden people doing every which way, or cigarettes stacked in a hundred positions  :D

1703
July was great wth plenty of OD, but this month is ridiculously low... hope it's just the weekend.

 this is only the 3rd day of august  ;)

1704
But all the "Exclusive" tag means is that it's only available on iStock - not that the buyer has exclusive use of it.  There's nothing stopping anyone else downloading from there.  All it really means is that the buyer needn't waste time looking for the same image somewhere else, because, in theory at least, it won't be anywhere else.  It's up to them to decide if they think it's good enough to be worth paying the extra price.

ah, cheers 4 the clairification. i suppose that applies to all sites when you select "i want xxx to be the exclusive distributor"  to mean i only have it here with you, ... it does not mean the buyer has exclusive use.
very good !

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock exclusivity
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:59 »
There are some exclusives who are making good money because they have unique images that customers are willing to pay a higher price for. If your main subject is apples on white background, the customer will have to choose between buying your apple for $30 or a non-exclusive apple for $5...

Though, I believe there still is some value in going exclusive - mainly if you have limited time and want to focus on one agency. Financially it seems unlikely to pay off anymore unless you shoot high-end stuff (and even then...?).

very clear explanation and helpful insight, cheers MichaelJay.
highlighting your points to note.

1706
if they're selling digital images for download they are in direct violation of ebay rules and it's only a matter of time before they're banned from ebay completely

you must deliver a physical product and creating CDs on demand thru ebay takes a lot of work for tiny prices

good point.
no cascoly, not dls, they are selling framed-prints of their own work.

1707
As for dropping exclusivity, I haven't checked but I would presume it's the same as image exclusivity, that is, 30 days notice and you have to wait 90 days before they will reinstate exclusivity afterwards if you change your mind.

cheers 4 responding to my query. only thing, now that he has this exclusive vid sold... does it affect whether he can remove exclusivity for this vid? if so, it does not mean much to the person who bought it during its state of it being an exclusive vid. because maybe in 2 years it could be available everywhere else. 
i have never been exclusive , so i hope this does not sound silly to ask . cheers

1708
Dreamstime.com / Re: Nightmare on Dreamstime
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:38 »
and I've made a whopping $.35 this month to continue this NIGHTMARE!

if they had accepted similars, it would be 35cts times the number of approved similars ;)
i think dreamstime has gone noddy nod and is no more than a social-media, collecting likes for fb !!!

1709
::)
I have sold a video yesterday!
I get $16.15!

bravo, congrats. at least this earns you more than a photo download !!! if u r good at vids,
maybe u should do more instead of photos.

btw, if u r exclusive with IS for vids, how do you just decide to go unexclusive? i am sure there is some conditions instead of merely saying you do not want to be exclusive anymore.

1710
another factor which may not be indicated is the grafitti. it would be better to clone them off, as some sites will consider graffiti as a reason to rejection.  even in editorials, it still, i am sure, nicer to have this bridge clean as no one would want to perpetuate that grafitti. not unless you are the one who placed it there.
as for denoise . perharps u remove noise generally, as one frame. it might have been better if u just reduced noise locally with marquee, leaving the rest unaffected to cause the softness due to pixel movement.

another tuppence worth of my idea to help, hopefully.

1711
Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock website not available
« on: August 02, 2014, 15:45 »
Maybe Scott will come in and say. Everythings fine and sales are best they've ever been and no, there is no Dead zones  of the world that doesn't work and every submitter gets the same chances to sell. . And your Most Popular is your Most Popular...LOL Ya Right. My most popular is filled with new Images that haven't sold. How can this help anyone and how long is this going to go on.? My question of the day and....My god, It's getting extremely tiring to be negative about the best site. But where else can I moan and grown, They certainly don't seem to care.

the ole dude sounds like a scratched-record, but he is absolutemente correcte

1712
I don't understand your logic here. If SStock sells best for the majority, it makes sense to learn how to pass their review filters.

In particular, I enjoy their turn around time. istock takes weeks to reply sometimes. SStock only takes 24 hours. That's a much better learn -> change -> resubmit cycle.

i repeat the 2nd comment on first page by Mr. Locke for my logic...
"Fountains, bridges, waterscapes, landscapes, landmarks, etc."

Aside from zoo animals and feet, you've named thed the top things that are easy to shoot and don't sell.
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1713
F16 at 36 mp is hard to pull off even with the best lenses. If it's not pin sharp at 100 percent, just downsize to 24 mp. That way you still sell the file as XXL on other sites that will pay you for that size.

Sigh. Apparently that isn't a magic bullet either. I just had this one rejected even after downsizing to 25mp:
July 30 2014_21.jpg by Trevarthan, on Flickr

Reasons:
Focus--Subject is blurry, too soft, or out of focus when viewed at full resolution.
Noise--Image contains excessive noise, grain, artifacts and/or is poorly rasterized.

+ robhainer
even with the best lenses, there is no evidence that f16 is the sweet spot. and most often it isn't.
thus explaining the softness due to defraction,etc.
it would be better to use ND filter to allow one to use the sweet spot , as opposed to just stopping down to f 16.

1714
SStock do not always take 24 hours. You are in the low season and during this time, I used to get approval within the hour.
The approval time varies dependant on the period . My logic is that other sites may make as much money for you . Lifestyle makes a lot more than waterfalls.
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?keyword_search=1&searchterm=waterfall&search_group=images%2C&prev_sort_method=popular&safesearch=1&prev_sort_method=undiscovered&sort_method=relevance2&page=1
you can measure if you can cut it with your own by looking at the sellers here.

I make 90% of my sales with Shutterstock, but I don't shoot waterfalls. And with Shutterstock, if you do not record sales within a week or that month with your new images, you can forget about it being a regular earner for you. The ones on page one, do just that upon approval.

Just based on my own portfolio and other consensus.

1715
whether they sell or not, and as another member pointed out, I'm missing the mark technically. I can't seem to get my landscapes through the review filters.

which review filters? there are so many sites to the right of Tyler's forum. just because we make money mostly with SStock does not mean you cannot make money with other sites. we have other ppl here who say they make more with the single digit sites .
the competition is stiff for sure with SStock,as with the need to be business only to know what SS sells. but it does not mean other sites will not sell for you.

you market your niche for the site that sells those type of work you make.
or you can ebay it yourself, as i know a few who have quit microstock to market their own "waterfalls, scenics,..." and they told me they will "never" come back to microstock .
obviously, they are finding better $ there , or else they would not have remove their portfolio from the top ten sites that were paying the rent for them .

write your own story.   we come here to learn the legalities,etc.. but the rest of it,
depends on our own making.

1716
many !!!  but volume is not one of them. eg.  if you have 400(0) dl on one vacation image. and one dl with 400 images. which  do you think will get you more downloads in the future regularly ? your bottom-line is the same $x for 400(0) dl. but one will cannibalize your portfolio and you have to keep feeding the beast like some people. others do better like some people i know who get the same amount of downloads and money for far less uploading.
keywords is definitely the first thing, as it is what gets you found by the clients.
colour scheme too, i find. if you look at many of the images you see on the web pages (with Getty, SS, etc as a side line) you can see a certain colour scheme, and a certain lighting and lighting balance level
that are favoured by the buyers.
and you can also either be one of the many copycats of the top sellers, or be in a niche
where not many fill.  the former does not make you a top seller either.
as a buyer, why would i change to look at a copycat when i already have my bookmark on the top sellers?  some disagree, like always, i too disagree with many things i said earlier  ;)

it all depends on your situation. the best thing to do is find what you do best.
no one else can replace that. and when those certain images sell for you,
make more of those. and hopefully you will find your niche.

or you can be a one stop shop for every thing under the sun, until you run out of ideas.
only you know where to draw the line.
but of course, technique, exposure , etc must be there on every image. the less post-processing the better, as your images will be cleaner , as will your workflow faster as soon as you master that.

still i expected you already mastered your equipment before even thinking of making money with your camera

1717
Stocksy / Re: YES! I got accepted to Stocksy...
« on: August 02, 2014, 12:23 »
Well, maybe it will take a while before enough people share results with the community. It would be wonderful to see stocksy lead that list, so we can see that a fair trade business run by artist is immensely successful.

Might encourage more artists to get together to start their own stocksy if they can't make it in.

We certainly need more successful fair trade businesses. ...
The inspiration of stocksy can go way beyond those that make it inside.

And it will be a reminder to the agencies that are trying to ripp us off that the artists have other options.

We are more than just mindless providers of endless image streams
.

nice sentiments, but i don't understand why Stocksy is said to be a leader in fair trade?
i see others too, eg. 500 px have pretty much the same culture.
..only the hype is less because they don't have the IStock owner behind the hype.
Also, Lee Torrens Canvas.

we forget, IStock started giving away free pictures , and then sold to Getty...and suddenly there is fair trade???  how do you know lightning will not strike twice in the same place with Stocksy
as with IStock?

and at the same breath, everyone is crying foul with dollar club and fotolia. and yes, everyone seems to be ripping you off. that's the nature of the beast, you believe what you want to believe
and i just say, don't be cheering too soon just yet.
IStock exclusives were cheering the same way too, here in MSG before some, many, lost their shirt
when Getty bought it.

but at least you retain objectivity with your final statement... I agree with that...

1718
I am going contrary to most of the advice here. You, like me, are not in it to feed your family, but rather to get a return on an activity you enjoy and make a few bucks to further your expensive hobby. That's what I do. I've surpassed $18,000 all time on SS and a few dollars more on other sites. One went belly up recently, so I really only have SS and one other. That suits me just fine.

I shoot what I want and what interests me. If I tried to make images that are "in demand" I would not enjoy it and that would be reflected in lousy work. For instance, I've never been interested in studio work, models with releases or 17,000 varieties of business people posing in front of a white background. There are plenty of folks who are good at that and ready to (over)supply the market.

Ever since my army career in public information (writer and photographer) I've been interested in photojournalism and that's mainly what I do, along with the usual grist for my amateur's mill. I'm happy. I get to afford excellent equipment. I roam my territory photographing as the mood strikes me.

I really think you should photograph what you love. Maybe examine those images of yours that DO sell critically see if there is a common denominator that made them interesting to buyers. Good luck!

well said, sir !  i don't know how many stock photographers i met who have pretty much had it with all that has been going on with microstock ( mad rejection inconsistency at SS, dc at fotolia, istock everything that went belly up and arse forward, dreamstime the little engine that didn't ...to quote another knowledgeable regular here,... oh the list is endless), and the sad refrain is "i burn out and lost interest in photography".

this is tragic, because it is not photography that burnt you out, it is the total anal structure of the microstock and G culture.
then again, many started stock photography as a business, so like many who lost their drawers during the market crash, they throw in the towel before they reach stress level of dangerous BP , blocked arteries, etc.

i think the balance way as Who's Pete Townsend used to say, or Sting, or so many tennis greats say..."i do it for myself first... i master the game... and then let the money come by itself. i will do it even if there is one person in the spectator section"

good advice, although not everyone will agree. we make our bed...

1719
...I decided to give this a try...

Looks good, Jo Ann. Best of luck with it!

Mike, i was waiting for Jo Ann. so, what do you do now? are we supposed to ask for an invitation by clicking the INVITE button on their home site?
do i click Jo Ann's site so she gets the referral?

1720
PhotoDune / Re: I'm Done with Envato
« on: August 02, 2014, 12:04 »
I think the upload process needs to be more streamlined. ...I think Dreamstime and SS have got it right.

funny, i just finished commenting on P5 needing to streamline their procedure, and thought the same way.. why not do it simply like dt ss ..!!!  KISS.

1721
Pond5 / Re: Basic Editing in Pond5
« on: August 02, 2014, 12:00 »
i have 2 b getting old for all this, but yes, in consensus to those who say P5 (and other new sites) the procedure is kind of confusing or somewhat like those sites in the initial days of the web where the flash sites of music artists was nothing more but to show off the webdesigner's smarts. it does nothing for the musician who paid that person to design the page for their fans.

i am not sure why they cannot be like Shutterstock and the others that is straight-forward. maybe it is because with some sites, it is a one-stop-for-all and maybe it is the default design like you get with design your own site with our templates.
and we thought IStock was complicated in 2005,lol.

yes, it would be nice if P5 et al simplify their submission format ie. upload, fill description, keyword, etc.. submit. viola !!!

1722
if i recall, Shutterstock you have to send an invite to gain that referral. dreamstime, i think the new member has just to give your id#. lastly, the latter referral is not forever, it is limited to 3 years.
and if your referral becomes exclusive later on, i think they end your referral. at least that's what happened to all my referrals.
like most sites, there will always be one form and another to cap what they pay you  ie as soon as they don't need you, they throw you out like one used to do in the dark ages with the piss collected overnight the spittoon  before shouting to the passersby "regarde leau"

1723
Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock website not available
« on: August 01, 2014, 15:54 »
Back in Germany ... things are changing so quickly in our world  ;D

not quick enough that the cows have left the barn 8)

1724

I realize this will sound asinine, but I'm guessing their pre-review software identified significant areas not in focus - probably because of the blurry water (which you intended to be that way) and the particular inspector wasn't on the ball enough to realize this was fine.

I have participated in many threads about problems with SS inspections on non-studio shots of various kinds (and at the moment am taking a break from uploading there as I had just had it with the inconsistent inspection process). You can read them (here and in the SS forums).

It's nonsense but as long as they get a largish pile of new content each week they're happy so I don't expect them to improve things. Which means that you can resubmit with a note  explaining the water focus and it's likely it'll be accepted. Or move on if you don't have the patience to jump through the additional hoop.

worth repeating this one by Jo Ann

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock website not available
« on: August 01, 2014, 15:31 »
ohoh, SStock parachuted the old IStock IT team !!! along with their review team et al.  :o

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