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Shutterstock.com / Re: New marketing from Shutterstock
« on: May 10, 2009, 19:49 »
Well, looks like I'm a bit desorientated on SSs payout politics but....the lowest price for subs isn't my point of view. I'm looking for the average price i earn for a download, what is, in my case, 2,86$ at the moment at FT.
As I understood SS constributors will always get the same price for each download. What means less than 10% of my average earnings. Even behind the 500$ mark its roundabout 12%.

If i'm wrong please tell me.

@Milinz: i earned more than 500$ in my third month at FT with roundabout 100 pictures.
@helix7: if a trade is a trade depends on the point of view. You might be right but i think my thoughts go some steps further.

Greets from bertold



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Shutterstock.com / Re: New marketing from Shutterstock
« on: May 09, 2009, 00:22 »
well...h...am i stupid or is this an invitation for submitters to download their own images from a friends pc to get more credits?

And if not...since a nearly hundred years there is a golden rule in marketing, never ever spend for free what you want to be paid for. I've heard during Web 1.0 everthing has changed...only the companys who want to be paid survived.
Now is Web 2.0 and again some companys spend gifts of what they want to be paid for. If they pay constributors for that, first it seemed to be fair, but i don't think this is a good signal into the market. It wouldn't pay out at the end, not for SS and not for the constributors. At the end it is a shame for the hole microstockbusiness at all.
Why not donate a toaster, thats more creativ and intelligent than that action? People who need pictures have to pay for pictures. If you want to attract them attract them by being interesting not by giving away for free what they want to pay for. thats the most stupid thing you can do!
I won't give the permission to anyone to give my work away for free, even if i was paid for.
I'm not at SS because the price per Image is so low i can't agree even if the sales are good and the mass makes a good income.

Who behave like this is always going down. If you have a successfull example of a company who had done the opposite way please tell me.

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I've thougth also about this point some month ago. I do nearly all of my earnings at Fotolia but they changed their mind and way of doing business that often in the last months i decided for my own not to trust in one agency. Even if it takes longer und means to accept lower profits.

A second reason for delivering different agencys is my ego. I can't accept pictures of me are being refused by selectors i didn't know and what gives me meaningless rejecting reasons. So every rejected picture is marching from one to the next agency until it is on the market :-) (roundabout 850 pictures done, only 1 of them wasn't placed unil now). But as i told, it's just an ego-thing, it takes time and don't deliver much profit (at least in $ i mean).




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Newbie Discussion / Re: Do you make a living at this?
« on: April 08, 2009, 18:48 »
Canada sounds cool, I like that. Sitting in a blockhouse and doing illustrations, going for a walk with the dog while the pCs are working....well, sounds good. But, i'm worried about how canadian authorities will react if i declare my business as a microstock illustrator :-).


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Adobe Stock / Re: FT rank
« on: April 07, 2009, 15:25 »
FT-Ranking is running wild between 20.000-5.000 if you sell 1 or 2 pitures
between place 2.000-5.000 you can gain a hundred places in a day
between place 1.000-2.000 they count in 10 steps
between place 0-1.000 they start to count in real numbers :-)

I'm today 978/264
sold 25 pictures yesterday

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I don't think that a waitress in china have enough experience and the skills to do 300 illustrations what sells extremly good at microstock market. Before i started my microstock engagement i had thought about this point. How possible is it that people from china, russia and the thrird world discover this market. After some month, after a lot of time invested and after a lot of illustrations what can be done only with a lot of computerpower i'm shure they will come, but not that fast und not tomorrow.
To have the ability to do a more or less good artwork is not the only condition for success in microstock business. Same in fotography. You have to know what sells and where and why.
With 600 online, 6 not, and roundabout 1000$ a month after 9 month i think i'm not at the poor side.
Don't forget how many time it takes to do an artwork what sells. I had the time because of sickness, but i would never started in this business if i wasn't. Because at my normal hourly rate i had gained thousands of dollars more in the same time. And i already had the skills and the experience and good equipment.
To do 300 and earn 1000$ a month is - in my opinion - possible for someones who don't need the 1000$ a month because they are good enough to get them daily by illustrating for clients.

But on the other hand, i'm also thinking about how and where to live when i reach the 4000$-goal a month in some years.

And, if microstock business establish, we will also see entrepreneurs who work with teams of illustrators out of low-wage countrys doing illustrations by direction - thats what i estimate.

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I don't think that is possible to make anyone living with 300 Illustrations at microstock market, but after 9 month and now about 600 Illustrations i would say it may be possible in 2-3 years :-)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Can't get Fotolia to load...
« on: April 02, 2009, 22:23 »
but maybe it was just a traffic problem...had much more views in the last days than long time ago.

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General - Stock Video / Re: fotolia footage?
« on: March 30, 2009, 22:12 »
they aren't able to handle vector images, do you really think they could sell footage?
I like this kind of optimism.
Let me hear if anyone sells any moved image at FT.
I will be the first who clap his hands.

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Succsessfull selfemployed business is always: talking as much as you can, thinking about what was talked about and doing what resolved on this thoughts.
It works also in turnaround: do something, ask others why it won't be functioning...
In any case, if you don't communicate you are in he wrong business i presume...

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Alamy.com / Re: Recently joined!! how successful??
« on: March 26, 2009, 22:54 »
I don't think there will be an average factor what will work for any distributor. Thats why this is creative business and not technical production process. I earn more than 2$ on every Image i have online - at a month - and i'm a newbie in this business.
Quality and quantity are always and in every case different factors what can't be messured in one single size.

But, back to my previous comment, doesn't anyone think its a good idea to support agencies with good behave and better prices? Maybe by accepting lower results?

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Alamy.com / Re: Recently joined!! how successful??
« on: March 25, 2009, 22:45 »
But, isn't that an interesting point? Alamy lives, until now, by selling at much higher prices. They have problems indeed and i on myself haven't sold anything there, but... after having some bad experiences with FT in the last month I'm looking for alternatives. Looking for agencys who treat artists with the minimum respect someone can estimate. As human contractor. Alamy behave like this, maybe owed on their problems in the market, but i'm more than willing to support this attitude.
During the last weeks i started to build up my portfolio on alamy with some of my best  new images, just to support them or let me say: to give them a chance.
I like the way they communicate and behave with their distributors and like the prices also. Why don't support them? If all distributors support agencys what only dump prices in a nearly quaterly time...no one should complain about prices going under the basement.

But by the way...i only sale much (nearly 1000 USD a month) at FT, and they behave real bad with distributors. Maybee my engagement wouldn't be that high if i hadn't my startup, experiences and success only at FT. I tried to make me a home there and they gave me a kick in the ass. crap happens, hard reallity here i will come.

Greets from Bertold



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As coming out of germany and selling most on Fotolia i can say: yes, most of the customers from Fotolia are out of germany and nearby in europe.
...and don't give any attention to the rejection reasons on FT, they roll a dice for their rejection mails (don't understand this as abuse, they know itself and laugh about it. My own rejection rate is less than 10% on FT and the rejections i get are allmost complet nonsense. Latest rejection i get was about pixelproblems and blur...unfortunately it was a vector illustration).

Greets from Bertold

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