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Edit: wanted to add that it's very hard to tell at miniature size so I might have given some (too many) AI photos the benefit of the doubt probably...  ;)

Yes, but the stem of a glass, coming out of someones thumb tends to look like AI? Her hand looks like a fist and has a distorted shape. It's not what I'd say is a natural way someone would hold a wine glass. The bubbles if champagne or if that's supposed to be condensation if something else, look artificial.

OK I'll play, but considering the images are too small and I'm not going to waste lot of time looking closer. 7-14-21 are real, the rest are much like AI might produce.

Yes I confess, I am unethical and greedy, I use a digital camera and photoshop my images.  8)

Customers are not supposed to be people who create images, customers are the ones who choose a photography by seing a thumbnail, that they click then decide to buy. The competition between real photography and AI illustrations that look real takes place from the thumbails. If we do think as a customer, there is no care of what happens at the pixel scale of the photo, in the majority of cases. Of course, it's harder to find out if it's real or AI with thumbnails. But the question is to detect if the images have comparable merchant potentials. My (our) main concern is to assess the competitive aspect (and yes first, we are competitors all here). And I find it hard to believe that in the stock photography industry, traditional photography will be able to survive the AI ​​tsunami. The fight is truly unequal and unethical.
But I would be happy to know that others oppose this AI surge, and prefer not to follow this deadly panacea. Since the generation by the AI ​​will completely do without the human, it is the next step, there will be no more intermediary. Even no more ChatGPT professionnal prompters. The stock photography platforms will then be autonomous.

I confess, I need money too for a living  ;)

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4- AI - shoulder blade looks unreal and the glass stem is unusually long
We could also consider that there exist glasses with unusually long stern. This glass (left) comes from real, and it's not because of AI.  ;)

How we do detect that an image is fake is interesting,
but how we do detect that an image is true is more subtle.
The denial of the real with AI images appears to me the greatest danger.
There is a risk of suspecting the natural exception, by standardizing the vision of things from the real world.

I think it's our relationship to real, natural, logical, truth, beauty, memory, history that is challenged, more than our relationship to the virtual.

Sorry, if I got lost  ;) The only concern of most here is to make fast and easy money, ethics is not really fashionable in most areas these days.

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[...] AI is not replacing you "doing" images. You use AI to make your images.
[...] you should give a try and learn the new processes too. After all you use these days more the PC with email/internet and not letters with post riders.
My reason is more ethical than technical. And I can have a relevant opinion on multiple things without even having to try them.
But true, the question is doing real photographs instead of AI images, I go change the word in my post.
Whatever, you're welcome to participate to the game I proposed, since you come and write here ;)

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Most nights around here occur at night, not during the day.  :)
But around there, some intelligences spend their full time in the night. Are they AIs? ;)

Note: I did NOT generate these pictures.
I DON'T use AI for replacing me doing photographs, and I DON'T want or plan to.

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A day is a twenty-four-hour period, from one midnight to the next. It would be troublesome if European nights did NOT occure each day.
23 hours 56 minutes. There are schools and teachers here where I live  ;)

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Added rule: serious participations will get the result in a private message, to keep the suspense going, and make it more interesting for those who take part. Thanks for keeping it for yourself.  ;)
(Please consider there may be a delay because of european nights that occurs each day)

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Really, this is even more interesting than I imagined. Of course, I have (for the moment) a lead over you and that's not the goal, but you will see later that it is a real source of lessons, especially when you detail the reasons for your choice.
Thank you for your participation and patience, because the more participants there are, the more we will get a clearer idea about ​​the question of AI vs traditionnal photography.
And I can tell you that even knowing behind the scenes, I measure my inability to discern 100% reliably.

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I like you so I will play your game (but it's small pictures to tell from):
Thanks, I like you too. Thx for having played the game, not sure there will ba a lot of success for it. I will wait a little before revealing the answers.

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Here is a structure for the answers. You can copy and paste
1- Reality / AI
2- Reality / AI
3- Reality / AI
4- Reality / AI
5- Reality / AI
6- Reality / AI
7- Reality / AI
8- Reality / AI
9- Reality / AI
10- Reality / AI
11- Reality / AI
12- Reality / AI
13- Reality / AI
14- Reality / AI
15- Reality / AI
16- Reality / AI
17- Reality / AI
18- Reality / AI
19- Reality / AI
20- Reality / AI
21- Reality / AI

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Note: I did NOT generate these pictures.
I DON'T use AI for replacing me doing photographs, and I DON'T want or plan to.


I propose a little game. Could you find out which are traditional photos and which are AI-generated images?
Like a survey, I think this could be very revealing. Please, play the game. Thank you to those who participate :)

Added rule: serious participations will get the result in a private message, to keep the suspense going, and make it more interesting for those who take part. Thanks for keeping it for yourself.  ;)
(Please consider there may be a delay because of european nights that occurs each day)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 09, 2023, 04:49 »
Show Adobe the way to light and truth

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Adobe Stock / Re: Faith in ADOBE... is dying
« on: June 08, 2023, 14:05 »
May peace and love fill Adobe's heart

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Adobe Stock / Re: Faith in ADOBE... is dying
« on: June 08, 2023, 13:44 »
Maybe I'll start complaining when I won't earn anymore! :D
just maybe the same difference between screaming before the accident and screaming in the grave  ;)
you mean maybe,wrap your head before you break it! :D
YOU "said":
Maybe I'll start complaining when I won't earn anymore! :D
I just wanted to suggest that it would be too late. Nothing more, nothing less. I like anticipating, more than sheeps do  ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Faith in ADOBE... is dying
« on: June 08, 2023, 11:47 »
Maybe I'll start complaining when I won't earn anymore! :D
just maybe the same difference between screaming before the accident and screaming in the grave  ;)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 08, 2023, 10:38 »
I think that in some cases, approval ratio is just perfect! Massive satisfaction about acceptations of gen AI here, just an exemple:
https://stock.adobe.com/search/images?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=0&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=0&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=0&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aaudio%5D=0&filters%5Binclude_stock_enterprise%5D=0&k=eiffel+paris+generative+AI&order=relevance&safe_search=1&limit=100&search_page=1&search_type=asset-type-change&acp=&aco=eiffel+paris+generative+AI&price%5B%24%5D=1&get_facets=0

But here are the guidelines:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html :
Dont: Submit works depicting real places, identifiable property (e.g., famous characters or logos), or notable people (whether photorealistic or - even caricatures).

Lost in the rules at Adobe Stock, but human reviewers may know them well.
Not sure that - So old-fashioned - real photographies will still be accept in a near future.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Faith in ADOBE... is dying
« on: June 08, 2023, 08:33 »
Recall one moment that you are grateful for from the past with Adobe.
Remember how you felt.
Notice these feelings and reflect that all good things that came yesterday.
Offer your thanks.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: June 06, 2023, 15:55 »
It's late here

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: June 06, 2023, 12:41 »
Who wants... to live... forever?...

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Adobe Stock / Faith in ADOBE... is dying
« on: June 06, 2023, 10:33 »
ADOBE, we pray for you!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 06, 2023, 10:00 »
Oh yes

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 06, 2023, 09:16 »
Please, vote for my post!

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Adobe Stock / Re: A.I. Legal cases
« on: May 21, 2023, 11:09 »

There is no more fight needed, just let he speak!  ;D
Try again Chief!!!, and call it "ballpoint pen" instead!  ;D
Comments on reddit are excellent! Childish, immature, nothing to do with science here. His intelligence is to know that he does not need to use intelligence to talk to sheeps.

What about Sam Altman last statements? propaganda? conspiracy theorist?  ;D all this is so low level...
Perfect invention here... of running knote! by Yann The Gun, I say  ;D

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I trust Adobe.
Tha'ts all they want from sheeps, before they invite them in a plate.

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Here is the illustrated result for a human after reading this message from Envato.
I don't know if the number of fingers has got importance, but they know helping deep learning of human:



After GraphicRiver, here is VomitRiver!!!
Distributing Generative Vomit is also acceptable for you Envato?
Thank you Envomito, you illustrate sooooo well!!!

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