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This week and month started off a little slow,I expect higher sales numbers this month,and an average increase in the number of sales in the near future.

With my current portfolio,and the rate at which it's growing now,especially real content but also AI,it's time I started having more sales in numbers.

it will be very important to see how it goes over the next 6 months.

What pleased me is that in the last week I have sold more than one real content that has been approved for a max one week,so it means that what I'm doing is good,and it sells.

which I can't say for AI content,because in the last 200 that I produced I didn't sell any,however,the bulk of AI content still needs to be submitted or approved.

I'll probably have to start sleepless nights in an attempt to increase production even more!  :D





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Shutterstock.com / Re: What a cool SS, how well he sells
« on: June 03, 2024, 14:48 »
I don't get these very often. Image screen shot, was altered to protect from copycats:



nice one congratulations! :)

my last good sale on SS was 41 usd in March

last Saturday a "chain" sale of similar contents for 1.43 usd each,but these are rare events,last month I made too many sales of 0.10 c on SS

AS bad today,very bad! :(

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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: June 02, 2024, 08:56 »
what I like about normal photos is that they are more difficult to copy than ai.

people just look for the prompts on midjourney and some uploaders actually leave their prompts in the title.

if you use the same prompt you get nearly exact images.

when you try to copy a photo, you actually have to put more work into it.

and especially for things like food or locations I am sure customers will always prefer the real thing.

we agree,I also think that the contents of people,lifestyle,concepts and illustrations,they can work well with AI,don't need to be real,generally speaking,then depends of course.

as for all the rest of the contents,I think are better real,then naturally there are things that can only be done with AI.

and then yes,the real problem with AI is the massive uploading that happens every day in quantities clearly superior to real content,and then they are easily replicable,copycats etc.

Frankly,for the moment I'm not having great success with this AI content,much more so with real content,but I don't have enough for sale yet to judge.

but something tells me that if we already need 5,000 AI content to have regular sales,in a year we will need 50,000 content,and in two years?

I do and will continue,at least for the moment,to also produce AI content,but I absolutely do not want to base my portfolio on AI.


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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: June 02, 2024, 02:49 »
Those are great results, congrats!

All this endless talk about how stock is dead and then some people just go and earn money.

what has changed in recent years is that microstock has gone from a passive income to a full time job,unless your portfolio is already really solid,these days you have to continue to upload content with consistency.

regarding AI content,I don't know how much those who have at least 5,000 AI contents for sale earn,but I suspect that they don't sell many,not like before.

I don't know,because I still don't have at least 5,000 AI contents for sale,but I believe that the real difference is made by real contents.

I prefer not to base my portfolio too much on AI content.

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my weekly ranking is higher than average,this week is going well,let's hope it continues like this,at least for a while!  :)


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Request payment?
« on: June 02, 2024, 02:19 »
yes,more precisely,once the minimum payment you have set is reached,during the first 3-4 days of the next month,the money you have collected during the previous month is deducted from your balance account,and is then paid to the payment method you have set, usually within the 10th of the month.

for example in this case,since you already have 76 usd,if you set 25usd in your account settings,all the money you accumulated in June will be paid next month,by July 10th.

if you then reach 24.99 usd in July you will not receive the money in August but in September.

Since it is still June 2nd,it is possible that your balance has not yet been deducted from your account,and it is possible that it will be paid this month by the 10th,if you have already set up your payment method,and your tax form is approved.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: June 01, 2024, 03:13 »
What a month!  :D

Very particular month that i would define as important in my microstock journey.

On Adobe second BME in terms of earnings and worst month of 2024 in terms of sales number.

My prediction of 20% more compared to May 2023 was wrong,because i earned 70% more.

I have not reach my "minimum value" but for only 4 sales,so I can somehow call it achieved!?  :)

A month that at the beginning of the last week seemed lost,and then in the last week a strong recovery.

This was also the month i uploaded the most of any type of content ever,and which also marks the record for the speed of sale of a content,that has just been approved and already sold less than 2 hours later.

A month of change and improvement in the type,quality,production,and speed of processing content,both real and AI.

Overall an excellent month that gave my port and workflow an edge.

A month in which i worked a lot,and it makes me think that i am going in the right direction.

so,the only thing left to say is,of course:

Keep it up!  :D


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We need to remember here that Adobe as a business looks out for Adobe.
Agencies with the introduction of AI are moving from being media companies into being data companies.  Our content is nothing more than a small pile of bytes in a vast data set.  The data set is what they need to train the AI and its the AI they see long term as the thing generating their money.

For all of these there's a time when they hope they wont NEED contributors - they're annoying, resource intensive and need paying.  Once they have all the data needed from them they have no further need for them.

Arguably with the vast amounts of AI bloating Adobe's library they're already further down that road than even Shutterstock.  A quick look on FB now shows most "contributors" on there are just text spamming AI generators using stolen or corporate accounts to produce thousands of images a day, use AI to upscale these images, AI to keyword and just upload in bulk.  There's no actual image creation any more.  Its feeding text into an engine.  And those are outgrowing actual, user created content maybe 10:1.  Its purely a quantity factory that is automated as much as possible to reduce the effort and time required as much as possible.

I,on the other hand,don't think Adobe wants to get rid of contributors,and I think we are always needed.

There is so much real content that AI just can't replace or create.

Real is real,when a customer buys a photo they know it's real,and that's a huge difference,then of course,there are also cases in which it is not necessary to be real.

As for the various issues,of multiple accounts,contributors trying to inflate sales,and all this uncontrolled mass AI uploading,I believe Adobe will resolve and fix everything so that everything continues to work properly,but it takes time,not everything can be solved overnight.

We contributors will always be necessary,real content will always be needed.

I really don't see why Adobe should eliminate us and replace us with AI,we are a key part of Adobe and Adobe Stock.








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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 31, 2024, 05:32 »
yes,I also received a small contributor fund bonus yesterday.

this month on SS did nothing but confirm that I was right to stop uploading last September.

too many 0.10c sales,when I see all this content sold at 0.10c I feel bad thinking about all the work that went into making it,and I don't want to upload new content,I don't want to see more new content sold at 0, 10,it's unbearable!

I'd like to go back to uploading to SS but they need to get these 0.10c out of the way!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: May 31, 2024, 05:21 »
Sora is the big news of the day, but I am interested to know if its training set comes from Shutterstock's videos as part of their partnership with OpenAI, and if there will be any adequate compensation in the Contributor fund.

"Sora" is also the name of a town of about 25,000 inhabitants in central Italy in the Lazio region  :)

I also received a small extra contributor fund bonus yesterday.

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The first of all, everyone who use Midjourney, could get images with THE SAME QUALITY.
WHY I produce 100k simlilar files?
I produce 4 images in one prompt. I dont use any repeated prompts unless the images are really good at selling.

When you have more than 100000 or 200000 or more ai images, WHAT TO CREATE is meaningless. I CREATE EVERY THING.

Well, yes, not only you but everyone can create anything, this is no more a breaking news, it's more than one year that Midjourney is on its way.
And in one year we saw boith traditional photography and AI images that sells well.
So I'm not agree with you, what you're talking aboout is quite overtaked... There are actually billions of AI images in Adobestock and, you guess, traditional photography is still selling.
Sorry but I'm not agree with you, you seems to be a little outdated. Actually the best sellers are quality images not quantity, as quantity is something that anyone can have access to.
My opinion, of course

One BIG thing is... people should be focusing on getting midjourney to pay authors RETROACTIVELY for the STOLEN works they made their tool based on, as well as set up a system for RECURRING PERPETUAL works going forward. discuss that. that is effective.


I agree with you but unfortunately this will never happen.

regarding AI content,quantity is certainly the winning strategy.

better to generate many more than you need and then carefully select the best ones,rather than waste too much time in postproduction.

I have recently developed a new system in postproduction,which allows me to speed up my work considerably,whilst maintaining an excellent standard of quality.

It took me several tries and several steps before I achieved this strategy,but it works,my approval rate is very high,and the content is of excellent quality,but above all I can go much faster now.  :)

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my tax form that I updated has been waiting for approval for several days now,I would like to withdraw but I can't,I'll wait a week from now then I'll try to send an email.

As for videos,I've never sold one,while for images they sell quite a bit,not bad,considering I haven't uploaded for a few months,and my port is relatively small on DP.

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Adobe is alive and kicking! :D

very strong recovery in the last 2 days,already 30% more compared to May 2023 regarding earnings,thanks to some good sales.

as regards my minimum value,which is linked to the number of sales,I haven't reached it yet,but it's still possible.

for me this is definitely a better week than the last 2 weeks.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 28, 2024, 09:18 »
something strange is happening on SS today.

I sold more in 2 hours than I sold in the first 27 days of May,and they keep coming!

but not even a sale above 1 USD for the moment,a storm of 0.10c.

most likely something went off in the algorithm that decided that I had to start selling.

if I had sold all this on Adobe I would have been much happier,unfortunately my portfolio on Adobe seems to be hibernating this month!

wake up Adobe it's almost summer!  :D

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in the end last week I lost "only" 3000 positions,for a moment I ended up at -8000 then in the end of Sunday
there was a tailspin!  :)

today normal day,nothing special,at least something.

I just saw that of the last 400 contents uploaded,a mix of every type of content,I only sold 12,of which one 3 times and 2 twice,3 sales from AI content(127/400)

16 sales in total in the last 400 contents uploaded,most have been on sale for a very short time anyway.

This month I risk making fewer sales than May 2023,and of course I'm not very happy about it and I'm quite worried,because a year has passed and if instead of selling more I end up selling less,
that's not really something I would define as encouraging!  :D

However,there are still 4 days to go,everything is still possible,I just hope to speed up a little with these sales because everything is going too slowly,a little too much.

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don't get hung up on these details "skip the photoshoot".

it's just a promotional slogan,it's not intended to offend or undermine photographers,it's simply what it is,with Firefly you can skip the photoshoot,it's simply reality!

I agree with you. It's making a big issue out of really nothing, some people looking to be offended and feel self righteous about.

Also though - generally speaking it is a 'business tactic' some heads of certain corporations use to attack other corporations - and there is one specific culture that uses it as an actual TACTIC (attempting to discredit competitors to affect stock prices/shares/etc while simultaneously pretending to be a 'victim') - and lol - some people get SUPER "offended" about it if you say what their background is because they've been PROGRAMMED to act that way through schooling (look @ the ppl running midjourney/chatgpt/bloomberg/etc - what do they all have in common?). It's SUPER ODD "nobody" is saying anything about Midjourney (which is based on theft), ChatGPT (which is based on theft)... but "nobody" in the media is complaining about actual theft (hint: the "media" companies owned by the same people running/promoting the chatgpt/midjourney)... but instead whining about "being offended" by a ridiculous thing they shouldn't be "offended" by...

exactly,in fact I don't understand what anyone could want from Adobe,which remains the best agency of all.

the best royalties,Firefly bonuses,AI training paid missions,free software,free paid collection with the possibility of naming the contents you want,representative also here on Microstockgroup,they are interested when a problem is reported...but what do you want them to pay for your dinner too?  :D

of course in some cases they have had to "sacrifice" some aspects to ensure that things can continue to work as best as possible,such as for example,an opt out was not created for the contents used to train Firefly,because it was a necessary action,as was the change from eur to usd.

some actions were necessary,they always tried to maintain the right balance while also trying to favor the creators.

rather we should complain about Istock which practically "gives away" our work,or SS which pays us 0.10c per image,or in fact we will have to complain about Midjourney who stole everyone's work without spending a cent,and then charges high subscriptions.

this is why I honestly don't understand how anyone can attack Adobe for even the slightest problem,when in fact they have always proven to be in the best possible way,they may not be perfect,but I'm not perfect either!

I would rather say let's try to appreciate the opportunities we have thanks to Adobe,the truth is that today without Adobe Stock,the microstock would already be a dead end.






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The future is always the consequence of choices, revisable at any time.
An incredible blindness here, ultimately, proof that you renounce your own organic vision, which you entrust to machines. If photography does not represent reality, then it is no longer a question of photography. Simply using this word is an admitted falsification. Do you attribute humanist intentions to Adobe? no but seriously!...

Some become like machines, others will remain human. Only sheep think that there is only one type of future in which everyone will live in the same way.

yes,I'm sure that in your head the future is revisable at any time.

the future is predetermined by the character of those who create it,and by more or less fortunate events that are beyond our control.

Accepting changes for better or for worse is part of the process of life,I know this well,since I went from an extremely happy life where I could afford to do whatever I wanted,to this present that I still don't know exactly how to define.

yet here I am,I'm still here,I've discovered that I'm much more resistant and tenacious than I ever thought.

Adobe is trying to do the best it can in the current scenario,as am I.

continuing to row against something that cannot be stopped is useless,rather,it's better to spend our time on something we can change,or that perhaps we can still change.

AI in all its applications cannot be stopped,it is we who must find different solutions to adapt to a completely different present,very different from 10 years ago and completely different from 20 years ago.

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we are losing rank positions,the fact is that we are much slower than many who produce thousands of AI contents in a couple of months at most.

they are also fluctuations in Adobe's sales system,which sometimes favors you and other times has to push you aside.

but there are also thousands of new contributors emerging thanks to AI,and they are gaining positions fast.

I lost 8,000 positions this week,I had a bad week and a strange month.

Despite this there is still hope that I can reach my minimum value,that is,the minimum number of sales I should make,a number that has been consolidated for several months.

next week either there will be a strong recovery or this month I won't be able to reach my minimum value for the first time.

for me it is important to be sure that Adobe's sales system,in the worst case scenario,still allows me to reach at least my minimum.

One week left,we'll see what happens! :)

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I'll try to be brief.

unfortunately that's the way life goes,that's the way things go,things change,continuously and exponentially as time goes by.

AI image generators are the future of photography, especially regarding content of people, lifestyles and concepts.

as I already said,I started photography towards the end of the 80s.

I continued for many years,I spent a lot on equipment,time,resources,I read books on photographic techniques and printing.

and then what?digital photography has arrived.

80% of the invested resources have been lost.

I abandoned photography out of disappointment,and only much later did I rediscover the desire and determination to start again.

what is happening with AI today is exactly the same thing.

now what should Adobe do in this case?

the only thing to do in these cases is to embrace the future,and that's exactly what Adobe is doing.

I agree,there are things that Adobe could and will do better...just as there are things that I should do better too!  :)

as far as promoting their products,they are simply embracing the future and doing what they need to do,and they are trying to do it as best they can.

continuing to highlight problems that we already know is useless,whereas a solution would be very useful.

this letter proposes nothing,it only demonstrates an anger,which even if it is comprensible,is useless.

For all the various problems that this new technology brings,Adobe is trying to do the best it can to help artists,let's give them time.

the important thing is the will to do it,and Adobe has this will,I see it.

don't get hung up on these details "skip the photoshoot".

it's just a promotional slogan,it's not intended to offend or undermine photographers,it's simply what it is,with Firefly you can skip the photoshoot,it's simply reality!





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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 25, 2024, 06:24 »
Shutterstock would be a great agency,they just need to get these 10c out of the way and set 0.25c at least as minimum.

selling most photos and vectors for 0.10c is not acceptable,there is too much work behind it.

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as far as I'm concerned,the contents that come out of the free collection from the previous year start selling regularly again after a few months.

I haven't noticed any differences in the sale of the same content in other agencies,as most customers don't even know that can find the same content for free on Adobe.

Having content in the free collection in my opinion can encourage traffic to your portfolio,because customers who find the content in the free collection can search for similar ones for sale.

I usually never nominate the same content two years in a row.






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Adobe Stock / Re: Firefly AI rejections on Adobestock
« on: May 24, 2024, 06:31 »
Adobestock accepts images createdwith Firefly?

Yes.

I have both AI MJ and AI Firefly in my portfolio,you can also use version 3 of Firefly which is in beta,commercial uses are allowed

I also have people made with Firefly which in my opinion are even better than some of MJ's,the Firefly people seem more natural and real to me.

at the moment I'm working on some AI content, but in reality I don't want to waste too much time on it,I created 20 in a couple of hours,for me it's a record,because before I wasted much more time on it.

in my opinion the strategy to adopt on AI is more on quantity,because you have to consider rejections and then also that it is not easy to sell them,so wasting too much time and producing less,I don't know if it's really a good idea,maybe it can be sometimes,not always.

Thank you for answer. And how much do you upsize your images?

usually between 4 and 20MP

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10% of the nominated assets for me will be very good!  :D  very probably less....

I go all in,then remove only some best-selling content.

but if they're best selling, they wouldn't be available to nominate

no,I can also nominate my second best seller,then the tenth,then the thirteenth,then the fifteenth.....therefore it is also possible to nominate the best sellers.

in any case,I believe that even if nominated,only a few are chosen by Adobe,I believe only the best sellers that haven't sold much lately,but more in the past.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Firefly AI rejections on Adobestock
« on: May 23, 2024, 04:25 »
I just checked.

on May 10th,the Adobe Stock AI collection was 68 million.

today May 23th,the collection is 74 million.

impressive!

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Adobe Stock / Re: Firefly AI rejections on Adobestock
« on: May 23, 2024, 04:10 »
Adobestock accepts images createdwith Firefly?

Yes.

I have both AI MJ and AI Firefly in my portfolio,you can also use version 3 of Firefly which is in beta,commercial uses are allowed

I also have people made with Firefly which in my opinion are even better than some of MJ's,the Firefly people seem more natural and real to me.

at the moment I'm working on some AI content, but in reality I don't want to waste too much time on it,I created 20 in a couple of hours,for me it's a record,because before I wasted much more time on it.

in my opinion the strategy to adopt on AI is more on quantity,because you have to consider rejections and then also that it is not easy to sell them,so wasting too much time and producing less,I don't know if it's really a good idea,maybe it can be sometimes,not always.

Regarding Firefly people. I find that sometimes you get excellent results, many times you don't. Typically, if it's just a "headshot" results can be quite good. If you go for say fully body length not so much. Also, there is quite a large "sample to sample variation" in quality. Maybe when the servers aren't as busy they spend more time per image perhaps?

the general rule,for all AI generators from what I have seen,is that the more distant the subject is,the more generation errors there are,yes generally full body length has more errors and less details even in my experience.

creating AI content that sells is not easy,it really takes original ideas and also luck,the variations are quite evident with better and worse results.

as far as I'm concerned I've generated around 25,000 so far between MJ and Firefly but I have very few for sale on Adobe.

20 AI contents finished in two hours with photo editing,upscale,generative fill and everything you need,ready to be indexed,it's an excellent result in my opinion,going faster is perhaps too much,but slower than this is certainly not good at all because you need quantity to have hopes of sales.

Adobe's AI collection is growing very fast,I think around 5 million every 10 days more or less,before it was a million a week,let alone in 6 months!

At the moment there are 74,513,371

I prefer 100% real content for many reasons,but I am aware that offering AI content is also important,I prefer to focus on real content and from time to time I send maybe 100 AI contents in between.

There are many things to consider if you want to build a portfolio primarily around AI,first of all your content can be copied quite easily,then there is excessive competition,then the technology improves quickly,the AI ​​images of a year ago are now outdated.

I take AI content more as a diversion in my portfolio, if you want to base a business on AI you have to keep up with it and continue to follow,staying focused only on AI,it's a choice.

as far as I'm concerned it seems like I sell real content much easier.


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