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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: September 26, 2011, 11:48 »
Is this anything other than celebrity snaps? If not, it's competing with EdStock but very little else of what microstock sells. Seems largely irrelevant (beyond their wish to pay microstock back for ruining their lives - aren't they a bit late for that party?)
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« on: September 26, 2011, 09:36 »
Nice to have the site back
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« on: September 24, 2011, 13:40 »
That e-mail's been around for a long time - standard for all deactivations, not something they implemented recently as part of this descent into microstock hades
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« on: September 23, 2011, 22:47 »
... Subject to applicable law, Fotolia reserves the right to inquire, from time to time, with any given contributor as to whether such contributor is distributing any Works through any other stock agency or website, and such contributor shall promptly provide this information to Fotolia. ...
This doesn't say anything about the consequences of refusing to provide this information. Most contract law does not cover specific performance (making someone do something), only what remedies will apply if they don't do it. What sanction would Fotolia apply if a contributor in the US told them it was none of their business where they sold their work? And if they close the contributor's account or reduce their royalty rate to 1% (they just said the schedule wouldn't apply which suggests they think they can make up any rates as penalties for those who won't do what they want) wouldn't this type of behavior come under restraint of trade? In the US, anti-trust lawIt seems to me this is the garbage that gets tried every so often by various manufacturers or distributors who try to strong arm stores or suppliers. Ben and Jerry's sued Pillsbury when the latter tried to exclude them from distributors - didn't work so well for Pillsbury. I would assume that there is close to zero chance that Fotolia could enforce this "tell me where you buy your groceries" provision if contributors just ignored it. But with well known contributors and images (and Google image search) the content will tell who's where. This has certainly set a new low of foul and nasty
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« on: September 23, 2011, 17:32 »
The number one best match for "South Carolina" the State is an image of someone named Carolina Bacardi who is in Los Angeles. Surprise surprise it's an Edstock image and it is how the Best Match is supposed to be, not a good sign.
In addition to that, there's a raft of other incorrectly keyworded images up front. One of the Hooter's Air launch (the shot was in Georgia but got keyworded with SC because the flight was going there), and one of a group of people at a premier for a film (in California) (one of the kids is Carolina). It's horrible spam
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« on: September 23, 2011, 17:03 »
...I am amazed by complete lack of business ethics though... and shortsightedness...
Really? This move seems entirely in keeping with Fotolia's track record.
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« on: September 23, 2011, 17:00 »
I'm definitely opting out. I have only a small number of files on Veer (painful upload and glacial review process), so quitting altogether if they later drop the opt out will be easy.
If they are serious about having a subscription offering, they'll need to do something about reviewing so they can keep a stream of new content coming to subscribers. Perhaps they're really doing this to dump a bunch of wholly owned content into a subs plan and outside contributors just suffer the collateral damage of industry-worst compensation
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« on: September 23, 2011, 14:26 »
I would add to the letter something about being paid your full outstanding balance in the part about them removing your entire portfolio.
Also add something about them taking the actions to ensure prompt removal from partner sites.
If their contract has a clause about the language with which you the artist terminate the agreement, include that. Following those steps should make it easier to make the case they're violating the agreement and selling your work without your permission if they drag their feet on removing your portfolio (as it's virtually free money for them to sell your stuff and pay you the minimum royalty).
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« on: September 23, 2011, 14:21 »
I don't want to downplay your case John - it's a shame that you can't get either agency to act - but the butterfly head girl is not in any way shape or form something someone could claim was their own creation (I'm assuming the tree argument was that they might have had a similarly bent tree in their back garden as the reference for their illustration). Slapping hibiscus on top doesn't cut it.
Has someone contacted IS and SS or the IS artist(s)?
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« on: September 23, 2011, 14:02 »
It doesn't affect me personally as FT banned me, but does this mean that if someone sells through CanStock that FT will make them white? Even an Emerald or up contributor?
Are they serious?
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« on: September 22, 2011, 23:52 »
@atramos. I don't think any of the microstock sites would take images on that basis. And for anything to sell it needs to be keyworded. Dreamstime has a keywording service, but (a) you'd have to pay and (b) editorial images (what you'd have to do for the unreleased images) have to have a detailed description, date and place shot, and you have to enter that.
Unless you have some jaw-droppingly wonderful images in there, I can't imagine any agency doing the work it would take to sort out 30K images for you.
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« on: September 22, 2011, 15:01 »
I'll add a slightly less salty welcome  You'll see lots of familiar names/faces here. One or two are anonymous because they don't want to find agencies retaliating based on comments they post here (and yes, this has happened; no, it doesn't make any sense at all). For some, you'll probably figure out who they are after a bit as their sparkling personality shines through. It is a good way for all of us to keep up with what's going on at various agencies - and speak freely in a way we can't on any of the agency forums.
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« on: September 22, 2011, 14:26 »
I submitted one, I wanted the icon bling. Lol!
But you didn't need to submit a logo - I got the icon bling automatically just by being a vector contributor
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« on: September 22, 2011, 14:23 »
Here's today's version of my best match chart. It's interesting that Vetta and Agency have dropped back so much for most terms. One would think, if the price filter were working for buyers, there'd be no need to reduce the Vetta/Agency position - buyers could do that themselves if they wanted. This suggests to me that the no-name confusing dot sliders aren't being used (I suspect because the correlation between dots and collections isn't clear) and cheaper content is being given more slots in the first 200.
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« on: September 22, 2011, 11:45 »
I saw Sean post the other day in the thread on PNGs - coming soon - saying that he was taking a "Logos" approach to PNG. When they actually do something, he'll start considering submitting content. I didn't submit any logos, but I feel for those who did. And iStock can't even have the decency to just kill the project off so people can pull their content to use elsewhere and try and salvage some value from the hours they put in. In a way, iStock is like one of those bad clients that strings you along with more promises than cash until you have the common sense to just walk away
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« on: September 22, 2011, 10:26 »
Even from a thumbnail, this stands out immediately as a simple filtering - it doesn't look like a real sketch. I wouldn't spend any more time on work of this sort for stock - even if you did a better job with it, as others noted, it probably wouldn't sell.
What made you think this was unique? Either as a composition or technique?
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« on: September 21, 2011, 11:48 »
... However, I know 3 people who have dropped exclusivity and they all had major drops in income that are yet to recover. Be warned, it's not any better ( and in some cases considerably worse) anywhere else....
I am not primarily an illustrator (I have a small portion of my portfolio that is illustrations) but I left iStock exclusivity in June. It is absolutely true that you'll see a temporary drop in income during the transition. I think the real issue is where you think things are heading. If you believe that over time, your situation will improve at other sites, versus continue to decline at iStock, perhaps it's better to take the hit now and get started building better search position. You have more options with other sites (JPEGs of your vectors if you don't like a particular site's vector pricing). Over time, your SS income per download will rise as you earn more. You might want to unbundle some of your more complex illustrations to sell better on sites that have a one price for all vectors policy. If you do raster illustrations, or other derivations from your vector work, you can sell those (something iStock doesn't welcome). It's too soon for me to say better/worse on returning to independence after my 3 year stint as an exclusive, but I'm pretty close to certain that if I had stayed exclusive at iStock, my 2011 income would have been less than 2010 anyway.
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« on: September 19, 2011, 21:52 »
I seem to remember Sean posting quite pointedly about the Vetta fast track (pre Agency) that some contributors appeared to have and also the self-inspection that some contributors have. When exclusives were waiting for longer than usual times and the work of the anointed few got to end up online the same day, I remember Sean saying something about that in the forums.
There was an inspector whose work was for sale on other sites and after a brief forum fuss and some time where the portfolio was offline, all went back to normal. I had a hard time imagining that other exclusives would be given so much benefit of the doubt.
There was also the little giveaway of double RC credits during the Vetta sale at the end of 2010, which seemed to me a way to get the favored few their royalty rate for 2011 when the ridiculous Vetta price increase had caused sales volume to drop.
I don't see a lot of consistency from where I sit (even where I used to sit, as a diamond exclusive).
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« on: September 19, 2011, 13:33 »
I have the same name everywhere except 123rf because when I started with them, they made the account and loaded images from DVD, so they made joannsnover and I'm jsnover everywhere else. Many times you end up with different images at different sites because of differing editorial policies - SS likes raster illustrations and IS for the most part doesn't; DT has stringent restrictions on similars from a series, so they'll be missing images others have, and so on. If you do vectors, look at each site's pricing scheme to decide if you're happy with it. For all sites except iStock you can upload JPEGs from your vectors if you don't want to sell the vector originals. I like to think that people would know my work even if I changed my user name from one site to the other  If a buyer shops at one or two sites - SS and IS, for example, it'd be nice to make it easy for them to find your portfolio wherever they're shopping that particular time.
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« on: September 18, 2011, 11:39 »
The PP is seen by some (me included) as a way to transfer sales from a high royalty outlet (up to 40%, 50% on ELs before they took the 10% bonus away) to a low royalty one (20%). No RC credit for any sales via the PP, so over time, you have a harder time maintaining your higher royalty payments at IS.
It's about monthy return on your portfolio, and SS has been doing pretty well over the long haul with that.
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« on: September 18, 2011, 11:34 »
I can't really offer any useful comparisons as I'm still in transition (from exclusive to non).
I will say that SS has been doing very nicely and that the percentage of OD and ELs really helps to bring up the returns. IS has been highly erratic - some decent days and some weekdays that look more like a bad weekend. It seems as if they're doing particularly poorly in Europe (based on the money I see when I get up in the morning on the West Coast of the US when Europe's business day is almost over.
September is half over, but right now the IS earnings are less than half of August's - it's never been like that in the past. SS September earnings so far are 68% of August suggesting September will be stronger.
I think that under H&F's thumb (via Getty) IS has been making moves that are not customer focused in any way and have such a short-term profit mindset that they're hurting the business. The continued software eff ups and the long time before what's broken gets fixed don't help. Even loyal customers, eventually, get to a point where they've had enough.
The dropping download numbers (look at the monthly sales threads on IS) are not a good sign, even if there's a temporary sweetener of some higher priced sales.
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« on: September 17, 2011, 20:04 »
You can look at the various "Image pack" options on both Thinkstock and photos.com to see all the ways buyers may pay, What you make is found here.
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« on: September 17, 2011, 14:56 »
I like DT's approach - if you accidentally click on the "if you reject it make it free" box you get a warning dialog asking if you're sure. The fact that they put the check box right next to the terms and conditions check box makes that especially important, but if their UI were better, I still think the confirmation's a good thing.
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« on: September 15, 2011, 15:54 »
@ Lisa - I like "portfolios" as a euphemism here.
Perhaps we can stipulate that all three of them loathe one another equally and just move on?
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« on: September 15, 2011, 14:30 »
I have ignored whoami, but seeing as Lisa quoted her, I think it's worth pointing out that StockXpert was not sold to Getty but to Jupiter Images. Once Jupiter was purchased by Getty (something Peter had nothing to do with), Getty closed StockXpert.
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