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'Allegedly' what we see when looking at our own ports doesn't affect what a buyer will see, and they have other weightings anyway like location (and previous purchases, IIRC).

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Sometimes I sell phone covers through FineArt America.
Me2

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: August 2023 statements are in early
« on: October 24, 2023, 18:11 »
anyone get the Payment ?
See the forum. There's a 'hitch'.

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If they're not in the CV, they don't show up on the file page.
However, they are 'usually' searchable.


Just to be clear, Sue ... does this mean that keywords not in the Controlled Vocabulary but that you have included in your submission, are in fact still attached to the image, even though they are not visible?

That's what I've found, though I can't claim it's universal.
Try with some of your own photos to see.

(BTW, It seems that at sometime over the past couple of years, a lot of words have been removed from the CV.)

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Ive looked at keywords from more of my images in my iStock port and I'm starting to notice a pretty serious issue. There are some important keywords (added by me in Deepmeta) that are not present. For example - names of buildings, street names etc. These really need to be included so that buyers can find the images. There is a tutorial video on Deepmeta that states that some keywords will not be recognised by iStock but will still be included if you manually select them. But that is not true at all. I did manually select these words in Deepmeta and they are not visible among the keywords under the photos when viewing them in my port.
If they're not in the CV, they don't show up on the file page.
However, they are 'usually' searchable.

Tell you what's even worse. Their 'enhanced' search function, which more or less shows you what you wanted to see first, then a whole load of semi-random stuff underneath. At least you can turn it off, but it took me a wee while to notice that: it seems to have been made 'on' by default.  ::)

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Seems to be a problem with the server at the moment.

However, they seem to sometimes delete the odd one or two, for real or imagined copyright reasons, and emails aren't always sent.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: July 2023 financial statements are in
« on: August 18, 2023, 12:23 »
After two 'better' months, low rpd and no 'lottery wins' made it my worst July since 2007 despite an average number of sales. Interesting that most people on this thread are doing well (well done), that's not what I'm seeing on other sites I'm on (exclusives).

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Is it any deal to do it for next years or maybe forever. I mean sales are not the best. Those 10 cent sales on shutterstock are funny too. AI can overtake humanly made photos.
I wouldn't rely on it to feed my (hypothetical) family, if that's what you mean.

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midjourney doesn't have a collection of ready made images to download. you have to create your own by prompting. which takes time to learn.

and midjourney cannot give you legal protection, because as their own ceo explained himself how they scraped the entire internet without licensing anything.

Are the agencies offering legal protection?

Adobe Stock is, but  to its enterprise customers creating Firefly output only. Adobe Stock's current getAI content comes from all the current generative AI tools, none of which is on a secure legal footing. Theoretically Firefly will be - if and when it exits beta - because Adobe trained on its contributors' content + public domain stuff. Adobe's CYA for the content it is accepting is telling contributors they need to ensure they have the rights for commercial use of the content they upload. But Adobe knows as well as anyone that no contributor can know that with Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, etc.

Shutterstock is but only for enterprise customers and things created with their (DALL-E 2 based) tools, not for all the genAI stuff uploaded to their site in spite of the rules saying its not allowed. Their earning call this week said that very few customers are using any of the output from their own AI tool as the quality isn't there: "... lack of true photo realistic outputs are holding back widespread adoption for actual marketing campaigns"

No idea what DepositPhotos, CanStock or 123rf are offering.

Thanks, interesting!

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midjourney doesn't have a collection of ready made images to download. you have to create your own by prompting. which takes time to learn.

and midjourney cannot give you legal protection, because as their own ceo explained himself how they scraped the entire internet without licensing anything.

Are the agencies offering legal protection?

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No doubt I'm missing something, but why wouldn't someone buy e.g. Midjourney or whatever and generate their own AI images, rather than purchasing from an agency?

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Image Sleuth / Re: Stolen images on iStock by "Abdul Bayzid"
« on: July 29, 2023, 14:57 »
I don't think I get a thank-you yet - I see 1,103 images now in his portfolio. More have been added this afternoon, and they're all stolen too (based on a spot check of a few).

Here's what I see on page 1

Sorry, I checked back and Editorial remained ticked from a previous search there.  :-[
IS absolutely should take the port down, but sometimes they seem to wait until an actual infringed producer complains in person.

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Image Sleuth / Re: Stolen images on iStock by "Abdul Bayzid"
« on: July 28, 2023, 15:52 »
Well done, JoAnne!

Sorry, your search returned zero results for
Thanks for finding this, Stvagna

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Adobe has a filter, it allows the buyer to sort real photos and artificial ones. And such a filter is available on all stock agencies.
I don't see such a filter on iStock, and indeed neither iS nor Getty accept images "made with AI tools".

I guess you meant 'all stock agencies which accept AI', but I'm not going to try out every possible stock agency to check!

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Advice Needed
« on: June 17, 2023, 08:06 »
The photos took so much to edit as really i take them 1 by one and make them magazine style, turn a dark and ugly apartment into something bright and clear. Its my passion and want to do something different.

Depending on the country, you might have to be careful that you don't make the apartment more beautiful than it really is. Here in the UK for example, that could get you into legal trouble (e.g. when working for an estate agent). If you're just doing in post what you could have done in capture if you had the appropriate (expensive!) lighting gear, that's probably different (IANAL).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: May 2023 Earnings
« on: June 16, 2023, 11:31 »
Thanks to one high-value sale, a good month for me, but I'm worried in case that high sale won't stick and might be refunded, as I had an enquiry this week to see if I could provide the file in a larger size, and I can't. (I'm assuming it's the same customer, but I don't know that for a fact). Otherwise the month is 'OK by current standards for my portfolio'.

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The other is that some buyers may not realize the content is erroneous and just assume the agency has their back and it's good to use. An example: a buyer has not been lucky enough to eat lobster or even know what it looks like, but has been told to download a picture of a lobster meal. GenAI content is included in search results by default - you have to turn it off if you don't want it, so the unlucky buyer downloads a mutant genAI image with extra claws without realizing it's pretty but wrong. Doesn't an agency have some responsibility to weed out this type of "mistaken" content?
Maybe no more than they have the responsibility to make sure captions and keywords are correct, for a similar reason (e.g. the junior has been tasked with finding images, and doesn't know any better)

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Alamy.com / Re: Distribution commission rant
« on: June 09, 2023, 10:56 »
I opted out of distribution because when the distributions were receiving more than the actual photographer it just didn't sit right with me.  Yet the other day I once again a sale came through, so I queried it and seems it went through before i opted out but has only just been reported. Hopefully it is the last I will see.
I would rather not make a sale than have someone earn more than the photographer for doing nothing other than having the image on their site.   Rant overrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I think that's the affiliate scheme rather than the distributor scheme
https://www.alamy.com/customer/help/affiliate-program.aspx
Not that that makes things any better!

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Off Topic / Re: Stop talking politics!
« on: June 02, 2023, 12:07 »
This is no place for political discussions of any kind.
Well, true, not so much in the 'Top Sites' forum. There's an 'Off Topic' forum which would be a better place to start one. Or a counter-argument against one.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Recent Uploads - Algorithm
« on: May 23, 2023, 16:22 »
When I look at my portfolio, what's the difference between Best Match and Most Popular? What does any of that mean. Mine don't seem to be arranged by most money or most downloads except a few of them, scattered along the way with others of questionable "Most Popular" status.
Most Popular - these are the works that are bought the most.
Best Match is a sorting of works according to istock, i.e. those that are the best in terms of istock.

Mine are identical? Does anyone else see different pages when they switch between Best Match and Most Popular on the portfolio view?

No, they're the same, and AFAIK that's been the case for a long time.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: istock march statements
« on: April 21, 2023, 18:50 »
...
Not only that, it looks like someone pretty much downloaded every image in my collection on IS. I can't explain why, but, makes me wonder if someone listed as California is using them for AI training?

That's happened  for the last couple ofyears at least, and I strongly suspect AI training.
e.g.
https://petapixel.com/2022/03/22/getty-images-launches-first-model-release-that-covers-ai-and-biometrics
and
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/03/21/generative-ai-getty-images] [url]https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/03/21/generative-ai-getty-images[/url]
and even:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/api


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General Stock Discussion / Re: istock march statements
« on: April 19, 2023, 13:33 »
low rpd (98c); worst March since 2007.c50% of March 2022.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: February 2023 Earnings Statement
« on: March 20, 2023, 17:11 »
Better than the two previous Febs, making it only my third worst Feb since 2007 (my third month on the site).

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  However, I do not know the process on getting certain words and locations added

Contact Us > File Editing > Recommend a new keyword

That's how to suggest a new keyword. They may or may not implement the change, partly dependent on whether it's likely to be submitted or searched for often. For example, they almost certainly wouldn't include my very small, nondescript town.

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