"My wife has been studying jewellery vendors on Etsy and has come across others who sell photo prints there. Some also sell digital downloads for around $2-$3 which can be used for printing photo backgrounds for food photography. I suppose that $2-$3 is better than 10 cents."

The biggest problem with ETSY is they you used to be able to upload you product and got charged when it sold now thwy have a fee to upload and a fee every couple of weeks and an other fee when you sell Oh! and the big Oh is that you can't get direct payment anymore they take your money andf hold onto it for another several days.

Gone are the days for selling on thid platform ust another fee charging PROFIT making enterprise.

I sell POD on 3 or 4 sites, one is a good seller the others are just to get my images promoted.

I also license images now on only a couple of sites both give me good returns on my images and it took me a longtime to work out where to have them, I have NEVER been paid .10c an images and regularly license images for credits and get paid between 5 and 25 US per image.

I am from Australia and have had images on FAA for at least 3 years and the only thing I have sold was facemask about a years ago.

Ah! the old keywording issue.
I think the issue really is
A/ that every online stock library amplifies different keywords, so that is an issue.

B/ every country in the workd liicensees use differnt keypwords to search for the same images ie, because of difference in language

C/ I thnk the first line in the title is more important than keywords

D/ Logarithm are the problem here because every online stock library has it's own and tweaks them to their benefit, so it does not matter what our keywords are unless you fit into the search profile they create even if you have the same keywords your images will probaly will be way down the list.

One of the sites I have images with shows the search words used to find the image that has been licensed and quite often these words have nothing to do with a description of the image.

I think the most important thing we can do is to shoot and upload, I am still licensing images I created and uploaded in 2006.

I think you should ask for more details, remember it is your copyright, so you should ask how and where they will be displayed TEN THOUSAND IMAGES. How will they protect them is the question?

If you do not know already this mob are NOT a Library just a place that takes ANOTHER % of your sales.

Look let me say firtsly that I get the best ROI on my images and video on AS, BUT and it is a big BUT AS is a multinational corporation that is in it to make a profit from OUR CREATIONS, I repeat OUR CREATIONS and what worries me is that this is the thin edge of the wedge.
I personally will not be taking up this offer.
The thing that worries me on top of everything else is will they write their Algo's to disatvantage the ones that do not participate.
We have seen other Libraries go from giving US a fair return on OUR investment to basically ripping us off over the years.

Please all stay safe in the times of Covid and don't be distracted.

Sounds like these creative people should wear this as a badge of courage and nothing else.
I am so glad I never put any of MY CREATIONS with this mob.
They need to remember that without us they are NOTHING.

As my old grandmother used to say to me "my boy, if it looks like a con it is a con".

I do not understand why anyone would put images with wirestock, they are just a clearing house for anyones creative work and TAKE a % of the license fee. We get such a small return on OUR work now.
I have images with AdobeStock and Dreamstime and get regular sales with both most importantly NOT .10c an image.
We are being shafted enough already
The places that pay you .10c an image love all you creative people that put your hard eraned images with them, they pay themselves MILLIONS every year and I am sure in the not to distant future they will be telling you that .10c is too much and will drop the license ROI even further.

Who cares he is still only getting .10c an image.
all you lot who are still uploading and having images on this site are doing a disservice to the rest of us by keeping recompemse for OUR CREATIVE WORK DOWN.
Don't you get the con here. They are laughing all the way to the bank paying themselves I am sure multimillion dollar salaries and commissions.
None of the site where I have images do I get this sort of ROI on MY CREATIVES.

Does anybody think that one person is REALLY worth nearly Five million dollars payment per year, especially when that payment is based on the useage of a third parties creativeness?

If Jon Oringer of Shutterstock (https://www.Shutterstock.com) donated his annual salary of $4,598,580 to image creators who produce the products Shutterstock licenses, and divided it among creators based on the number of images licensed, how would that benefit image creators?
AND YOU CREATORS ARE STILL UPLOADING YOUR WORK you must be joking, no employee is worth nearly 4.5 million dollars.

Wow that are really laughing all the way to the Bahamas.

Come On you lot wake up!!!!!!!!!!!

SIMPLE. external hard drive!

Here is a screen shot from the Kraken images website.

I just had a look at the video and by the look of it unless you have your own site all you are doing is promoting stock libraries and to no financial return on our part, except possibly licensing that image but once the clicker has got to the library they could increase their search and license an image from another contributor, so again the only corporation thatj benefits is the Stock library. Imagine the amount of time it will take to do this to everyone of your images, go out and shoot images, don't waste your time.
Now if the stock libraies pay you to do it say .20c an image it might be worth alook at.

Etsy used to be a good place, it has now turned into JUST ANOTHER ripoff site, thet not only charge you to up load images but once you sell something they HOLD THE MONEY for quite sometime.

I have been with Dreamstinme since the early 2006, I have had images withy other sites that promised the world and delivered nothing.
My images from that time are still being licensed, they pay on time and if the images you have with them are exclusive you get a better %.

Well you can rest assured that ALL of us creatives will get NOTHING.
The administrators will get the bulk of funds.

What WE as contributors have to remember here is yes you got a measley $3.36 for a clip, SS probably on the same day sold hundreds of OUR clips, they also got at least $3.36 per clip and are laughing all the way to the bank, getting upwards of $500 from those clips for doing nothing other than hosting them.
WE are a gigantic cash cow for these corporations and they love us, The GIG economy has nothing on this mob, talk about robber Barons and Pirates.
And as afar as OUR value they don't care because WE have GIVEN them millions of clips and images to do with as they LIKE, they set the RULES not US.
To add insult to injury there search engines are set to return WHAT they want the end user to see, adding even more control over OUR creations.

Well I have got that off my chest.

Please all stay safe.

Does not matter what version of payment THEY choose for us, we all have to remember that IT IS OUR creativeness thats makes these sites and without our creative skills and hard work they would be nothing. We as contributors to these sites should group together and demand a fairer share of the REVENUE that OUR images generate for these multinational corporations that treat us with contempt.

Shooting with the GH5 is great but it is unweildy and to have a better control when shooting run and gun, I need to add at least a cage and then you start to stand out in a crowd. Perhaps it is because I came from a stills background and am used to doing all my shooting through a viewfinder not on a display.

No I don't want to have a 5 inch display.

"I earn enough in stock to be equivalent to the average professional white collar full time office job in the United States", then forget about your own site shoot more images, concentrate on your core business which to my mind is shooting stock.
It is a full time job just running a site let alone promoting it and then shooting NEW images because that is what you will need.
A couple of years ago there was a Finish/Swede, that had over 400 thousand images online, he had a whole studio behind him and he pumped out images full of people all model released, I think he was called Yuri Acor. He had his images on every stock library.

Good day to you all. Can I avail myself of this forum's extensive knowledge and skills.
I come from a stills background but want to shoot video and I thought a GH5 with a 25 mm lens and a gimbal would be fine but soon realise that I actually need to add a 5inch monitor. i'm not a young fellow anymore and this ends up being heavier than my D800 set up.
Can I ask is there a camcorder that I get get that will shoot REAL 4K and at 60 fps, that will be light enough for me to handle and also travel with and when shooting not freak out the local population or law enforcement.
I have done a lot of Professor Googling, coming up with some good info and also some conflicting info. In the end I thought the horses mouth is the best place to get this, so here I am.
The videos will be mainly for travel stock. I am not adverse to buying second hand. and would like to spend around 1-2 thousand Aussie.
Thanks in advance.
David May

My experience of doing business on eBay is that it is full of untrustworthy buyers, scammers. eg, I was selling a Hassleblad digital camera and lens etc. I had an offer to send it to an address  in California, so I googled the address and it was a derelict building on the edge of town.
And in Aus, all buyers want to do is beat your price down, auctions no luck.
We have a thing called Gumtree which I think is world wide, that is not as bad but still issues with buyers.
In the past I sold an item to someone in the same city, during the sale process they winged about pricing because they had lived in singapore and how bad Australia was, then once the item was delivered they complained to eBay about the product and I did not get my money for weeks, after contacting eBay on numerous occasions and had some kind of restrictions on my eBay account. There was nothing wrong with the product this person was just horrid.
The way I do business on these platforms now is I send the item when the money is in my bank account, not just on PayPal or cash on delivery.
Really sad that a few bad people spoil it for evryone.