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Messages - Pauws99

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If free images are uploaded for sale elsewhere what actual damages can be claimed as there is no lost income?......

Potential income from those same images in the future and/or on other sites?
I'm no lawyer but thats hard to prove I would think. I'm genuinely interested if there are any legal experts out there as I really don't know the answer.

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If free images are uploaded for sale elsewhere what actual damages can be claimed as there is no lost income?......

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The question is, do we need agencies to sell?
Unless someone comes up with something truly innovative and scaled up the answer for 95% is yes.

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I don't produce the kind of work that this initiative is likely to generate or come from one of the groups that this is addressed at. If I did and wasn't part of the 40 chosen ones my income would now be under threat.

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"The work of underepresented groups is so valuable we are going to give it away".

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Leaving aside any politics and motives its more subsidised content for the vast majority of contributors to compete against.

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I don't think adding another link in the supply chain will end well ;).

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The News app on my iPhone gives me free access to tons of great stories from many sources.  Some are only available on News+ and they are always trying to get me to upgrade.  While some of those stories look interesting, the same content often becomes available for free in a few days from the same or a different source, so I can get access to 97-plus percent of what I want for free, and I have gotten very good at just skipping over any that are listed in News+.  The probability that I am ever going to sign up for the paid news is basically zero.  I suspect the same is going to happen here.  Once we get it in our minds that the price for something is free, getting people to pay for it later is unlikely.  After the word gets out that you can download over 36,000 high-quality images for free every year there will be no need for anyone to pay for them ever again - I certainly wouldn't.  Commercial clients might occasionally if they can't get exactly the image they want but within a few months I expect those will be very few and far between.  I hope I'm wrong but I won't be holding my breath on this one.

I think your news app analogy is very appropriate for this conversation. My question for you is this...did you ever pay for a News app before you started getting the articles for free? If not, then they have lost nothing from you. Do you however, believe that other people are willing to pay for the news app that were drawn in through an article they found for free? My gut says the answer is yes. How many people were subscribing to have the paper delivered to their door until the digital era kicked in and completely disrupted the industry? How many papers went out of business because they didn't adapt to the changes fast enough?

The people that only visit stock sites that offer content for free had no chance of ever buying a license from you. As was illustrated earlier in this thread, those sites have picked up a lot of momentum and that hasn't seemed to be slowing down. Now, there is at least a chance to convert the people visiting for the free collection into paying customers. This has already proven to be true in just the first day of the program as I've learned multiple visitors through free converted and made purchases yesterday which is very good news. The collection size, content, the download use, everything about this is being closely monitored by people much smarter than I am whom I trust. They will be reacting appropriately.

I've heard your concerns loud and clear and I promise that I understand them. I'm in constant communication with the team and I will continue to keep you updated as I learn anything that you may find important.

Thanks,

Mat
Which news apps allow people to copy whole articles to incorporate in their products and sell?

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I'm guessing a lot less than the paying users who will now turn into free users.

That seems like the only reasonable thing to assume.

After all, if just by signing up at Adobe one can get 100 x 30 = 3,000 free photos per month x 12 = 36,000 free photos per year

Why on earth would one even bother looking at the other images that are not free???

Geez.
  Why would anyone buy images on Shutterstock, Istock or any of the other sites when they can get over 30,000 free images a year on Adobe. This will hurt/damage image makers. It will grow the Adobe business.  ....
A loss leader where the contributors make the loss.

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Good news for the fortunate few added to the collection bad for the rest of us. Its really that simple. I can't really understand Adobe paying for images with actual money in the hope someone looking for free images will decide to pay for others. Sounds like a desperate gamble to me.

"We expect this collection will help educate and convert users of free content into responsible buyers," I expect it will educate users that there is free content out there and if they can't find what they want on Adobe they will look elsewhere.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Royalties at DT - have they increased
« on: October 11, 2020, 02:33 »
DT seems to be having a bit of an uptick for me. Ive always found just when I think its going to die it comes back with some decent sales...often my most niche or what some might consider my least commercial image

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Stock Photography Future
« on: September 17, 2020, 00:38 »
Imo the future belongs to programmers. Those that can create very very realistic models/animals and scenarios using CGI without leaving the comfort of their homes.

Imagine lifestyle photography without the hassle and administration to shoot models in fun scenarios.
...

imagine someone doing that work for pennies...
There will be a hand full programmers to create the ability then designers will use simple software to create images themselves.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Stock Photography Future
« on: September 15, 2020, 00:56 »
As long as, continue the current trading system. I still think that the market will evolve towards associating collectives that erase the intermediary. I am convinced that there will be many groups that will coexist with AS in the short term future.
Do you have any evidence for that? From what I see the most succesful businesses these days are intermediaries from hotel booking sites to take-away apps. I really hope this changes but I wouldn't place any bets on it right now.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Stock Photography Future
« on: September 13, 2020, 01:19 »
"He suggests that video is a better option than photography." It may be for now but its destined to follow the same path. So heavy upfront investing would be very risky. To me the only future for microstock for the typical contributor  is to minimise cost and squeeze every cent out while minimising investment.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: KODAKOne new stock sales offer
« on: September 09, 2020, 11:08 »
The only way I'd consider it is if they took a commission on any money retrieved. If they are as good as claimed they'd be coining it. Though they'd need to with a staff of at least 22. (Norton won't let me go to their about us link).

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General Stock Discussion / Re: KODAKOne new stock sales offer
« on: September 09, 2020, 09:06 »
Hello,
Has anyone took part in KODAKOne new business program? They are advertising on Instagram?
I thought this was dead and buried. Do you have any more info on this?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Percentage revisited
« on: September 05, 2020, 01:48 »
The simple answer is "because they can".  These platforms are relatively new. I would expect them to follow the same lifecycle as all crowd sourcing enterprises...when more people see the opportunity and  pile in the margins for suppliers will decrease. The trick is to get in early.

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Adobe Stock / Re: No sales in August
« on: August 25, 2020, 10:38 »
August has markedly slowed for me after a couple of good months as it did last year. I'm not a big fish so I wouldn't draw any conclusion other than Adobe doesn't seem in any kind of crisis.

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Going exclusive at microstock prices would be incredibly risky in the current market. I used to think if Shutterstock went exclusive I would consider it...look how that could have turned out.

 Image exclusivity would be good, and I dont know why all agencies dont offer that. Must be some financial reason why they dont.
I would imagine it would be very difficult to police and determine how similar an image is for it to be sufficently similar to make it "the same".

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Going exclusive at microstock prices would be incredibly risky in the current market. I used to think if Shutterstock went exclusive I would consider it...look how that could have turned out.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Finding models...
« on: August 21, 2020, 05:13 »
Same guy who blows his trumpet If it werent for guys like me fighting SS to increase royalties to contributers, back when they were paying 20 cents...
Meanwhile the guys still supporting SS and their now 10 cent scheme
Well its the same business philosophy as SS really.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: July stats disappeared?
« on: August 21, 2020, 02:06 »
Another fairly average unexciting month for me

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Just did my accounts for July...
« on: August 16, 2020, 04:53 »
You people must be lucky then with Adobe! I am a level 6 myself now and SS as usual is badly down and I certainly can't see any increase at all with Adobe and neither can a ton of fellow members that I know.
Adobe is doing exactly the same as SS which is nursing and looking after members from poorer countries simply because they upload in droves only they dont do it as obvious as SS.
Just saying :)
If people are uploading more it only makes sense for a business to encourage them where they come from is irrelevant.

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I think the biggest delusion is the idea that Stock photography will be the first industry ever to defeat the law of supply and demand.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Timing of the royalty cut
« on: August 06, 2020, 09:50 »
He took the money from our pockets and placed it directly into his bank account. This is capitalism at its finest.

That's not capitalism, but a blatant and despicable robbery.
Perfectly legal as far as I know under the capitalist system we have.

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