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Not a sham....but not explained very well either. By having "exclusive" clips Pond5 is able to distribute them to partner agencies while controlling the prices. Based on what P5 told us, they have contracts with partner agencies where the partner will have to sell at/around the price YOU set for your exclusive clips on Pond5.


And say you make a sale on Adobe with one of your P5 "Exclusive" clips. Do you still retain 60% of the royalties of the price you set, or 60% of what's leftover after Adobe or Vimeo take their cut?

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I saw one of my exclusive clips on Adobestock. How is this exclusive at all? SMH

Did you opt into the Pond5 Partner program?

I'm not sure if I did, didn't see that option pop up when I signed up. Regardless, this exclusive program is officially a sham.

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I saw one of my exclusive clips on Adobestock. How is this exclusive at all? SMH

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thought I'd just post some thoughts here...

if footage was "truly" exclusive and desirable, and pond5 reached out to outlets that desired this truly exclusive footage - i.e., what the authors submitted was very difficult to obtain else where and news footage firms wanted, say:
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Your thoughts?

I look at it as an opportunity for us to take control of the industry. A lot of the Best content producers are putting their efforts into Pond5x, guys like Via Films. I'm doing the same with some of my higher end stuff and will see how it goes. If all of the best content is exclusive then it will drive sales, just dont use garbage footage for P5x.

Just how are you "taking control of the industry"?

"If all of the best content is exclusive then it will drive sales" - but all the best content is not exclusive.

It's up to you as a producer to if you actually care about the industry to not enable the race to the bottom type players. Since you dont produce quality content then maybe exclusive isnt for you

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thought I'd just post some thoughts here...

if footage was "truly" exclusive and desirable, and pond5 reached out to outlets that desired this truly exclusive footage - i.e., what the authors submitted was very difficult to obtain else where and news footage firms wanted, say:
-

Your thoughts?

I look at it as an opportunity for us to take control of the industry. A lot of the Best content producers are putting their efforts into Pond5x, guys like Via Films. I'm doing the same with some of my higher end stuff and will see how it goes. If all of the best content is exclusive then it will drive sales, just dont use garbage footage for P5x.

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General - Stock Video / Re: Storyblocks - Member library
« on: May 17, 2019, 03:56 »
Stephan,i don't get it..i checked my clips on dissolve and they are all at 79/179$...am i missing something??
Btw i couldn't agree more about what you said on storyblock member library...i can clearly see the impact on other agency sales ...i know many producers that take advantage from it...and quite honestly who can blame them??

I wonder if they are basing their prices on how many sites the content can be found. Mine ks at 49 which happened without notice. That 29$ pricing is concerning and Ill pull my entire portfolio if they pull that with me

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General - Stock Video / Re: Storyblocks - Member library
« on: May 16, 2019, 14:20 »
And for those who also contribute to Dissolve, it is a chain reaction.

Your clips are now offered for 29$ at Dissolve.

Really? I just checked and it's at $49 so you are spreading misinformation.

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I play that game from time to time as well. Some of my cityscape timelapses I'll title as "timelapse of skyscrapers in modern city" instead of including the name of the city or building name. My hope is that they will reach a broader audience but I don't know whether it works.

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VideoBlocks / Re: Storyblocks - any signs of life?
« on: May 10, 2019, 01:16 »
Thanks to John at Crafted Stock for sounding that last alarm regarding the sub model. Who would have guessed that paying out 80 to 100% commissions wasn't a sustainable business model? LMFAO!

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VideoBlocks / Re: Storyblocks - any signs of life?
« on: May 06, 2019, 04:16 »
Almost everyone is reporting the same. I've had one sale this year compared to about 6 per month previously. Considering their promises of good things to come after the commission change, I wonder if they're feeling highly embarrassed by what's happened or if that was what they expected all along? At this stage they can only be viewed as a good bit of money while it lasted.

Same here. Used to pull in 400/month and now not a sale since January. As long as their subscription plan isn't mandatory there is still hope.

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It is impossible to make a living from stock footage. You can make some pocket money but hold on to your real job.

This is what you consider constructive to this forum? Ive made upwards of 2k per month doing this and its steadily growing.  People like John from crafted shutter make a good living off this so Im not sure what youre on about.

Not only have you shown yourself to be rude, but clueless as well. Don't give advice on things you have no knowledge about.

Check and mate....again.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 05, 2019, 16:59 »
If you think this is bad, wait until instagram has a simple opt in function thar allows anyone to sell their photos and video. That will be the final death blow for stock imho.

Not exactly, the range of clips and photos on instagram is relatively narrow and covers only about 20% of stock subjects. Most of it is ego me me me driven and will never cover the everyday subjects that stock requires.

You arent looking ahead. Just because they cant cover whats out there NOW doesnt mean anything. Instagram can easily accept higher res stuff and make it simple to opt in and make money off content. Once they do that everyone will license their snaps for peanuts and be happy making 20$ a month off their selfies and whatever else they have. It's coming, dont kid yourself.

I think you're dreaming. Stock sites have millions of clips specifically made by professionals for stock. You also seemed to ignore my point that most stock is of subjects that the average Instagram user would have no interest or access in shooting, such as medical, business, education, environmental, industry. Instagram is all about travel, food, fashion.

Go have a look on instagram and see whats on there. Theres plenty to choose from, it might not tick all the boxes but it can definitely take a massive chunk out of the industry. I understand you want to protect your job as long as you can but the reality is slowly setting in with subscription services, lower commissions etc. This is not a dream but a nightmare situation that can and will eventually play out. Now any soccer mom can upload a photo and make some side money with the click of a button.  Discussuon over. Check and mate.

Check and mate? I find your argument and logic reasonably clueless. Stock producers have nothing to fear from Instagram and other sites that will never compete with specialist stock agencies. The main competition for stock media creators come from the hundreds of thousands of other stock media creators saturating the market for a piece of a pie that's not growing much. Instagram, Twenty20 and any other site that throws their hand into the stock market will just be competing for crumbs unless they can come up with a master plan to take over the stock game like SS did many years ago.

Your argument is nonsense. Stick to shooting and leave the business side of things to those with a brain. People also mocked the automobile when it came out and we know how that worked out. Just because you lack the foresight and dont have the ability to look way ahead isnt going to stop it from happening. Keep on being a dinosaur, see how far that gets you in this game, kid.

Nice one, you've just revealed yourself as an idiotic troll as opposed to a constructive contributor to this forum.

Lets see, you cant debate so you result to throwing out insults, get insulted back then you throw a hissy fit? Yes yes? I'm sorry you lack the self control and intelligence to participate in a debate but you don't have to be rude. Perhaps you'd be better off on reddit with your immature attitude. Troll elsewhere, kid.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 05, 2019, 13:36 »
If you think this is bad, wait until instagram has a simple opt in function thar allows anyone to sell their photos and video. That will be the final death blow for stock imho.

Not exactly, the range of clips and photos on instagram is relatively narrow and covers only about 20% of stock subjects. Most of it is ego me me me driven and will never cover the everyday subjects that stock requires.

You arent looking ahead. Just because they cant cover whats out there NOW doesnt mean anything. Instagram can easily accept higher res stuff and make it simple to opt in and make money off content. Once they do that everyone will license their snaps for peanuts and be happy making 20$ a month off their selfies and whatever else they have. It's coming, dont kid yourself.

I think you're dreaming. Stock sites have millions of clips specifically made by professionals for stock. You also seemed to ignore my point that most stock is of subjects that the average Instagram user would have no interest or access in shooting, such as medical, business, education, environmental, industry. Instagram is all about travel, food, fashion.

Go have a look on instagram and see whats on there. Theres plenty to choose from, it might not tick all the boxes but it can definitely take a massive chunk out of the industry. I understand you want to protect your job as long as you can but the reality is slowly setting in with subscription services, lower commissions etc. This is not a dream but a nightmare situation that can and will eventually play out. Now any soccer mom can upload a photo and make some side money with the click of a button.  Discussuon over. Check and mate.

Check and mate? I find your argument and logic reasonably clueless. Stock producers have nothing to fear from Instagram and other sites that will never compete with specialist stock agencies. The main competition for stock media creators come from the hundreds of thousands of other stock media creators saturating the market for a piece of a pie that's not growing much. Instagram, Twenty20 and any other site that throws their hand into the stock market will just be competing for crumbs unless they can come up with a master plan to take over the stock game like SS did many years ago.

Your argument is nonsense. Stick to shooting and leave the business side of things to those with a brain. People also mocked the automobile when it came out and we know how that worked out. Just because you lack the foresight and dont have the ability to look way ahead isnt going to stop it from happening. Keep on being a dinosaur, see how far that gets you in this game, kid.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 04, 2019, 20:41 »
If you think this is bad, wait until instagram has a simple opt in function thar allows anyone to sell their photos and video. That will be the final death blow for stock imho.

Not exactly, the range of clips and photos on instagram is relatively narrow and covers only about 20% of stock subjects. Most of it is ego me me me driven and will never cover the everyday subjects that stock requires.

You arent looking ahead. Just because they cant cover whats out there NOW doesnt mean anything. Instagram can easily accept higher res stuff and make it simple to opt in and make money off content. Once they do that everyone will license their snaps for peanuts and be happy making 20$ a month off their selfies and whatever else they have. It's coming, dont kid yourself.

I think you're dreaming. Stock sites have millions of clips specifically made by professionals for stock. You also seemed to ignore my point that most stock is of subjects that the average Instagram user would have no interest or access in shooting, such as medical, business, education, environmental, industry. Instagram is all about travel, food, fashion.

Go have a look on instagram and see whats on there. Theres plenty to choose from, it might not tick all the boxes but it can definitely take a massive chunk out of the industry. I understand you want to protect your job as long as you can but the reality is slowly setting in with subscription services, lower commissions etc. This is not a dream but a nightmare situation that can and will eventually play out. Now any soccer mom can upload a photo and make some side money with the click of a button.  Discussuon over. Check and mate.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 04, 2019, 19:57 »
By sell there stuff i mean photos and video. The bar for stock footage is extremely low and anyone can do it.  I produce high end work but also have a lot of clips that id never use in my life, and guess what? They sell. Instagram would be silly not to, and if they dont somebody else will. They have hundreds of millions of producers at their fingertips and with the way phone cameras are progressing media will be worthless. Anyone can shoot a sunset, mountains, a tropical beach etc etc. Point, shoot, click opt in and now your image is readily available on the largest stock site in the world and they didnt even have to lure producers in, because we already are doing it for them.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 04, 2019, 18:41 »
You arent looking ahead. Just because they cant cover whats out there NOW doesnt mean anything. Instagram can easily accept higher res stuff and make it simple to opt in and make money off content. Once they do that everyone will license their snaps for peanuts and be happy making 20$ a month off their selfies and whatever else they have. It's coming, dont kid yourself.

It will ruin the current system that makes them billions of dollars. Why would they shift focus from $$$$$$ advertising model (that needs authentic content) to some strange online shops for photographers and get % of some cents?

It will never happen there, in my opinion.
Sounds like a magazine that starts licensing photos to their readers... This would look ridiculous.

Its a free app with more visual content than anywhere on earth. They dont have to change a thing about their business model. All they need to do is create an option that allows users to sell their stuff. That and  change the resolution that we upload. They dont need to change their business model as is, people can still upload the same old crap they have been, albeit with an option to have be licensed.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 04, 2019, 14:16 »
If you think this is bad, wait until instagram has a simple opt in function thar allows anyone to sell their photos and video. That will be the final death blow for stock imho.

Not exactly, the range of clips and photos on instagram is relatively narrow and covers only about 20% of stock subjects. Most of it is ego me me me driven and will never cover the everyday subjects that stock requires.

You arent looking ahead. Just because they cant cover whats out there NOW doesnt mean anything. Instagram can easily accept higher res stuff and make it simple to opt in and make money off content. Once they do that everyone will license their snaps for peanuts and be happy making 20$ a month off their selfies and whatever else they have. It's coming, dont kid yourself.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 1.22$ clip earning at Pond5
« on: May 04, 2019, 11:29 »
If you think this is bad, wait until instagram has a simple opt in function thar allows anyone to sell their photos and video. That will be the final death blow for stock imho.

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Those technical stuff like building a website and seo are not too hard, especially if you have money to invest in good hosting, maybe hire some web developers, etc.

The real tricky part is marketing (getting buyers) - facebook ads and stuff like that ain't gonna cut it. Being active on social media as many "experts" advice is laughable. If marketing isn't so tricky, there would be much more people successfully living from their own shops and probably not dealing with agencies. Instead of that, people are lucky if they earn from their shops enough to pay hosting and domain.

Yeah that's the hard part, need to master SEO and get on the front page of a google search when someone uses certain keywords when searching for stock footage but the problem is those keywords change with each search obviously. I don't know enough about this myself or I'd be doing it and perhaps it's not possible without a ton of money for marketing and web development.

Maybe the solution is a new agency that simply provides the platform but doesn't do out of their way to discount our prices and offer all these programs etc to further discount and sell our work for next to nothing but instead lets us set prices and takes a commission that allows them to remain healthy.

How many clips do you have and how long have you been at this?

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Definitely not. They don't take editorial and reject a bunch of stuff.

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Dissolve / Re: Is it worth uploading to disolve?
« on: May 02, 2019, 03:06 »
They are not contributor friendly.  Not a good agency to deal with

In what way? I make the same % from them as I do SS and P5 and they accept more footage than Adobe. I'm curious as to why they aren't contributor friendly? They've been good to me.

Thanks!

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Dissolve / Re: Is it worth uploading to disolve?
« on: May 02, 2019, 03:03 »
I was thinking to give a try, but..... maybe I forget that

I do alright with this one. Makes me 15% of my royalties out of 4 sites.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: pond5 sales plummet to $0?
« on: April 22, 2019, 16:57 »
not sure if it is because I voiced an opinion along with many others (I was quite polite, I know others were a bit 'agitated')...

but - has anyone else seen their pond5 sales plummet to $0 since last month? they were consistently producing at least a few hundred $$$... but $0, strange...

I've seen a massive drop off starting in January. This was my biggest selling agency for the past 3 years and they are getting crushed by SS now. What the heck is going on with Pond5?

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You have to have some trust somewhere in this industry. I see Pond5 as the best option now for video.
Or trust no-one and spread this risk.

I've changed my mind on going exclusive at all. Pond5 has been absolute trash for the past 4 months and barely making me any money at all. Shutterstock, on the other hand, has been pulling in $180 licenses for one sale. After pond5 cut our commissions by 10% along with that "web pricing" disaster I have a hard time believing this move will do much at all. Seems like a desperate play by them at this stage of the game. Sales were rocking until December and then they starting * about with the pricing and sales have dropped off a cliff.

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This is a fast cash grab. I have no doubt he will make a bunch of money in the short term but he's sinking his (and our) long term prospects in this industry.

Basically, they are running out of money and this is their last chance to recoup costs from their high-end production. Short term this hurts us all, but in the long term, it will eliminate bottom feeders like these.

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