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123RF / Re: Negative earnings
« on: January 24, 2020, 16:44 »
As I have had some refunds that are for 5 months ago, I am beginning to wonder if these are not refunds, but a way for 123RF to take more revenue from everyone, basically fraud.

If they are doing this across a whole load of Portfolios it could add up to a substantial amount.

They do not say who these people are who ask for a refund months after downloading a picture.

I cannot believe that a design/advertising agency would ask for a refund on such a small amount of money, having worked in many design and advertising agencies they just do not operate like this.

This doesnt seem right at all.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: September 10, 2019, 06:33 »
Quality will always sell, the great problem is finding quality in amongst all the rubbish, the amount of times I have heard buyers (myself included) saying, 'once you have waded through all the rubbish'.

The other problem is that those that produce the quality are increasingly leaving Microstock, sales keep going down, along with lower and lower commissions, the only site in the last 10 years to put up commission rates is Adobe, all credit to them.

A race to the bottom is a sign of desperation by the likes of Getty, a company mortgaged to the hilt with the contributors paying the shareholders and banks to drink Champagne.

This was never what Microstock was about, it was a partnership 50/50, unfortunately the Mill owners from the 17th Century have moved in.

As they say you pay peanuts you get . . . .

The way forward is quality sold on your own site.

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The Vector sales over time will go down due to the new rule changes, of producing vast files of up to 100 MB for download, plus the restriction on the design limiting creativity and saleability.

If they are crazy enough to implement this completely wacky set of new uploads for Vectors, what else are they up to.

They obviously have some people working for them that have no idea what they are doing, this will effect sales in the long term.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Legit email?
« on: July 19, 2019, 19:49 »
Only a complete moron would take up these offers from Getty and Depositphoto, Commercial Photography at slave labour rates.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: June Royalties are in
« on: July 19, 2019, 19:45 »
Its the usual low commission rate of 15% on a $200 sale, simply appalling greed from Getty, I think I may well shut my Portfolio down with them.

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Shutterstock are doing this because they are attempting to standardise their Jpeg's, the whole reason for doing this is completely dubious as all they needed to do was to get the Contributors to upload a Jpeg to a required minimum size.

The problem that they now have is, they have someone who I guess must be fairly high up in the Company who is a total idiot and has no idea of how Vectors work.

This person having pushed through all the back end coding to make this work; spending a fortune on a 'Site upgrade' had no alternative but to throw the switch and take it live, even after on their own Forum they have had thousands of people complaining about it.

Its really that simple.

Of course the upshot of all this for buyers is a serious problem of low quietly vectors that are massive in size, taking hours to download in most of the World.

The second problem is they have someone in the Company who is a idiot.

All the other Micro sites have to be laughing at this and hoping that they don't get a job application from the  culprit.

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On the Shutterstock Forum it looks like Shutterstock are either in denial or ignoring their contributors.

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I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

Maybe they want to reduce the numer of vector uploads, true; but not to eradicate it, no reason to lose part of the cake.

Today the total numer of images uploaded to SS per week is: 1,366,429; i remember to see this numer above 2.000.000 before the 4MP rule...

I have looked through the vector uploads and most of them are low standard icons or just complete rubbish illustrations, it looks like the serious illustrators are staying away.

What Shutterstock are going to end up with is massive file downloads of poor quality vectors, if your download take a couple of hours they will lose most of the emerging World Market, these Countries do not have the resources to download these 100MB files and lets face it even in the rest of the World how many Agencies and Designers are going to want to wait 5 or 15minutes to download a vast file.

The technical people and the senior managers who came up with this idea, really are a bit thick and this could pan out across the whole site, who knows what new and exciting announcements they are about to make.

It may well be that they have someone who is in a position of authority who is intent on running the company into the ground, (Some people can be like this) as this latest vector 'innovation' will take a time to have a influence on their sales and by then this person could well have moved on or into another department, leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces.

This could well be the beginning of the end for Shutterstock.

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I am beginning to believe that this maybe a deliberate policy to restrict the number of EPS uploads to Shutterstock, maybe they are not interested in anything but photography.

It is a change that really is so out of the ball park and utterly nonsensical, that maybe the owner and his team have taken what they think is a strategic decision to do away with Vector Illustrations and this is just the first phase in stopping illustrators from uploading.

If you look on the Shutterstock Forum there is no one answering any of the questions.

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I haven't uploaded for a while and I thought that this 4MP size issue had been quietly abandoned, but it seems not.

I have just tried to upload a complex illustration and basically its not possible to make it work with there requirements.

It is completely bonkers, whoever made this decision to change to this specification needs to be sacked, they were given fair warning, in the Shutterstock Forum last time with hundreds of disgruntailed contributors.

The latest post has hundreds of the same again, talk about not listening.

It looks like if they continue with this policy that Adobe are going to clean up with the serious illustrators/designers.


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You don't mind paying Getty's loans when you have plenty to pay them with, not a moral or ethical choice then.

What makes you think that.

Your comment is pathetic, I always minded, the problem is that the site has got worse over the years, when it was iStock it was fair.

Again you are pathetic, come up with a decent comment or not at all.

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General Stock Discussion / Time to stop uploading to Getty
« on: April 21, 2019, 10:49 »
Just looked through my sales for last month and again down to under a quarter what they used to be a couple of years ago, commission rates are abysmal at 15 and 20%.

Essentially I believe it is time too stop paying Getty's loans and the wealthy shareholders with their dividend payments, who with their greed have moved into the MicroStock market.

Microstock was about a Stock imagery sites selling there contributor's photo's for a reasonable commission, it should be for both sides, a win, win, not as it is now, with Getty's turning it into a slave factory.









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The really big problem in MicroStock is that the business model has changed over recent years, it used to be about a partnership with the Agencies to sell our work.

What has happened is that the wealthy shareholders (the people who don't pay tax) have moved into the market financializing the companies by issuing shares to these people.

This has caused a ever need, to constantly increase dividends to these people, which basically means that most of them (except Adobe) have cut our commission rates.

Essentially by not putting up the commission rates they are exploiting artists.

What's needed is a new big player in the Market, funded by the artists and able to wipe the floor with these companies, just how to achieve this, I really don't know at the moment.

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This whole 4 megapixels size is going to cause chaos, loads of people are going to be uploading and having their Vectors rejected.

Having to increase some of my Vectors to 4 megapixels in size turns them into huge files over 100MB in size, blends, transparency and meshes will not be able to be used.

This is on top of the problem of JPEG color control, which happens on other sites like Canstock and Getty as well as Bitmaping. 

It is completely bonkers, one of the Directors or Senior Managers are about to lose their job, if this crazy idea goes ahead.

On saying this, lets all hope that they pull back from the brink and the bin this idea, on second thoughts I suspect it is all to late as they have probably been planning this change for months.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: The Getty debt
« on: March 25, 2019, 17:57 »
Microstock originally existed to help photographers sell there work across the World, using a low priced volume business model. It started as a partnership with the Agencies, the crucial point is, it was a partnership with fair commission rates.

What has happened is the wealthy in the guise of big business, have moved in and subverted this business model suckin g the life out of the suppliers of the content and in the case of Getty mortgaging not only the companies future but the talent that supply that content.

The reality is the wealthy are double winners, as not only do they own the shares in the hedge funds that have owned Getty but they will also own the companies that supplied the loans, it's a win, win for them, paying themselves vast dividends on the backs of the talent that supply Getty.

These people who have perpetrated this on the creative talent in Microstock are the same people that have moved in to most internet based companies, a great many of them were originally set up to facilitate an easier way of working while getting paid a fair commission.

The likes of Amazon and Uber operate similar models, it is all about driving down the rates paid to the supplier and increasing the shareholder dividend.

What is really needed is a law to ban shareholder participation in these companies, this will take some defining, but you could certainly make a start with platform based business like Microstock.

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123RF / Re: Sales
« on: March 10, 2019, 18:01 »
They keep cutting our commission, while saying they will be selling more, which is utter rubbish, personally I believe that they are ripping us off.

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Will Adobe Stock phaseout the Fotolia Ranking System, there is no mention on the Adobe Site of a Ranking System, this could seriously cut our revenue.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: no sell in USA
« on: February 01, 2019, 08:26 »
Iv been getting a very similar pattern to sales, though I do get the odd American sale, I believe that this is a deliberate policy to keep the rest of the World out of the US market, while they have access to everywhere else.

Id really like to believe that this was not the case.

Perhaps we could have some Americans on this site let us know if they have a similar sales pattern?

All micro stock Companies should have their Algorithms verified by an independent body that verifies that they are acting fairly, with a bench mark criteria that states exactly how they achieve this, this in my opinion is the only way forward.

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I reckon there is a good chance they will get rid of the ranking system and we will end up with a flat rate for everyone.

Perhaps someone from Adobe can answer this point.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December stats in
« on: January 19, 2019, 19:22 »
Didn't make payout again, sales down two thirds in a year, some files selling for .05, I really dont have anything good to say about them.

Statistics take a whole month to come through so we have no idea what is selling.

The real problem is, with all the low commission rates they are undercutting everybody else.

Seriously thinking about deleting my Portfolio.

This is not a business that values the people it represents.

To sum up the owners of Getty must be laughing all the way to the Bank having scammed all their creatives.




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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock very bad results
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:12 »
I noticed that I have quite a few days, sometimes a whole week, when I sell nothing in America, my sales used to be half America and then the rest of the World.

Their algorithm seems to be deliberately manipulated, which is just plain wrong.

Essentially they are keeping the rest of the World out of the American market, they are supposed to be a global platform for our work and they take a commission for this, it seems to me that like Getty/istock, that they have got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

I would like to think I am wrong, but the data seems to point otherwise.

Personally I believe that all these Microstock companies should publish facts and figures, like how many files where sold in Italy and in which Country those file were created, this should be on a monthly basis.

Then we need clarity on the financial side, so we can see how much money was made in each Country and which Country received the commission.

At the moment too much information is opaque.

I am sure all these Companies have this data and we are the Creatives producing the work that they are selling for us.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Important Fotolia Announcement
« on: January 09, 2019, 07:52 »
I use fotolia because adobestock don't have thoses features yet. There's more info easily available at fotolia for contributor. My rank, (is it gonna stay ? I hope so), weekly rank, latest sold, best sellers ... etc ... I need those features and it's missing in adobestock.

Totally agree, especially about the ranking.

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It has to be because Getty dont want us to have this information, there can be no other reason, all the other sites provide up to date stats.

The question should be, Why does Getty not want this information to be available?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Deepmeta date created not read from iptc
« on: December 28, 2018, 09:57 »
I appreciate your reply and I think the Deepmeta software is outstanding and understand how it works.

But, and I am afraid this is a but, it does not have real time stats and I fully understand this is not your fault, but it is the one thing every contributor is really interested in more than any other statistic, as for Getty/istock claiming that this cannot be done, there is no such thing as can't.

Every other site reports real time, what ever excuse is given, this can only be, because they dont want us to see real time, what other reason can there be.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Deepmeta date created not read from iptc
« on: December 27, 2018, 07:56 »
DeepMeta Statistics Activity section are not accurate, they dont tally with the actual sales for each month and when can we see which files are selling.

Sorry if this is a bit abrupt, but every other Agency shows real time, down loads.

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