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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: September 30, 2023, 12:52 »
likely they're training for a 3-legged race parcours style

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how are these to be used for AI training if they have no metadata?  are all images to be labeled with generic data?  eg, food, rather than steak, hamburger, chicken etc?

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Another 30 whistle blowers give evidence ...

Michael Shelenberger article ...


Glendower:  I can call UFO  evidence from the vasty deep.
Hotspur:      Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                   But is there hard evidence, when you do call for them?

― apologies to William Shakespeare, King Henry IV, Part 1

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Even if I should had a lot of images already done for their missions the time I have to spent to search images in my HD, re-export, collect and organizie and upload, is too much. ...

doesn't apply to this instance where no captioning is required, so easier to sh oot than gather individual older images --. i keep a spreadsheet with date, captions & meta data. So i can search my entire inventory with 1 search across the entire worksheet, getting a list of the images i need in a few seconds

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can you generate this on Midjourney?
« on: September 26, 2023, 13:35 »
Ok. Thank you.

Pardon my ignorance but is that just 16:9 upscaled or what size could that image be before it is upscaled?

I think it could have been any size. Most resizing tools will let you set the output dimension, so I could, for example take an image that has 1500x1000px and set the output dimension to 6592 x 2880px. But you would of course get an image where either part of it has been cropped off or that is distorted, so that doesn't make much sense. Probably was something like 1648x720px before resizing.

i scale up using 4x in Topaz giga AI, then reduce to what i need in LRC using just xxMP rather than an exact calculation

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any theory destroyed by 1 black swan was a poor theory to start with. scientists wouldn't make a statement such as 'there are no black swans' and you have yet to give an actual scientific example from the modern world

The phenomenon of terminal lucidity could potentially be a black swan for the materialist idea that the mind and consciousness are generated by the brain. And as such, for the whole materialist paradigm. Unless materialists come up with an explanation in the future, it probably is a black swan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_lucidity
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20010032/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36160593/

interesting set of links - we're wandering from the original topic into an area of actual scientific controversy. it's one i've followed for many years, and unfortunately, none of these relates to a black swan metaphor

the 1st 2 links however explore terminal lucidity (TL) in materialist terms. eg "We recommend in-depth studies on the psychopathology and neuropathology involved in terminal lucidity, since they might enable the development of both improved therapies and a better understanding of unresolved aspects of cognition and memory processing."

the larger point is that the materialist view isn't denial of other possibilities. it's an broad model which contains many different sub-models. it's a working hypothesis of our current state of knowledge, similar to our understanding of quantum mechanics which provides an explanation but is modified when dark matter & energy become known.

the wiki article doesn't say anything that couldn't be explained within the materialist model

the 3rd link is not easy reading but provokes many ideas, even while still discussing 'physicalist' theories before dropping io the 'non-local' ones

it's the 3rd article that expands the analysis and TL is at best a minor component.   and the article starts by emphasizing the theoretical aspects of both materialist ideas and their own work:

"This review examines phenomena that apparently contradict the notion that consciousness is exclusively dependent on brain activity, including phenomena where consciousness appears to extend beyond the physical brain and body in both space and time. The mechanisms underlying these "non-local" properties are vaguely suggestive of quantum entanglement in physics, but how such effects might manifest remains highly speculative. The existence of these non-local effects appears to support the proposal that post-materialistic models of consciousness may be required to break the conceptual impasse presented by the hard problem of consciousness."

however, the actual theories being proposed for consciousness outside the mind-brain read like the best scifi - wonderful to contemplate, but difficult to move beyond the conceptual to actual hypotheses that can be tested

Further, many ideas within this model are gedanken experiments such as Searle's Chinese Room which proposes that computers cannot have a 'mind' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room.

on the lighter side, i just finished an excellent scifi that explored these ideas - Petyer Watt's 'Blindsight'. also Liu Cixin's 'The 3 Body Problem' (coming to Netflix)

 

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Shutterstock.com / Re: So we don't get a rejection reason any more?
« on: September 25, 2023, 15:07 »
I think,but it is just my guess,that if you have opted out,your images suitable for the data catalog will be added,but they will not be used because you have chosen opt-out.

I say this because I see that someone who has chosen opt-out still sees their images added to the data catalog.

I'm in,I don't see why I shouldn't get some extra money for otherwise rejected images.

are these images submitted after you opted-out?   you'll still get the message "ELIGIBLE for data licensing" after you opt out

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In the 1800s, people who claimed to have flown up into space in a motor powered balloon said the creatures up there looked like jellyfish. This was before flying saucers and talk of alien visitors but still interesting. Oh and they claimed they flew their aeroplane before the Wright Brothers, by many years.  ???

Jules Verne published reports of a voyage to the moon by a team shot from a BFG-type cannon, also on a group who were abducted when a comet knocked off a chunk of terra not-so-firma

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It is a known scientific fact that aliens have indeed infiltrated the air space of the planet and further more landed craft on numerous ocassions. You just choose to believe this is not possible despite evidence to the contrary.

If this is a know scientific fact, maybe you can show the evidence?
silly boy! he don't need no stinkin' evidence

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And there are pro-disclosure and anti-disclosure factions within the US government.
Any information about UFOs should not fall into the hands of the Russians or China. All technologies of extraterrestrial origin are a secret and a military secret.
   but a more likely possibility for classification is it would show our abilities.

in WWII officials decided not to act on Enigma info about a German wolfpack forming to attack  a convoy because it would show them we'd broken their code and would they'd switch all subsequent encryption.

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You just assume that the UFO phenomenon doesn't involve non-human intelligence, reject all kinds of proposed hypotheses, and yet you cannot formulate any other sensible hypothesis. Pure denial and nothing alternative to contribute.

A black-swan event is a single event that completely destroys a theory or a worldview. And therefore, denialism is an intellectually risky position, because it can be destroyed by such a single black-swan event.
first, thanks for continuing an actual discussion and responding to the content of posts rather than personal name-calling


any theory destroyed by 1 black swan was a poor theory to start with. scientists wouldn't make a statement such as 'there are no black swans' and you have yet to give an actual scientific example from the modern world

but  you do keep classifying  skeptics as 'deniers' ,but have yet to show any posts where critics here made those denials

i havent seen anyone assumpting there are no UFO-aliens (in part because it's impossible to prove a negative), and no one's rejecting your hypotheses. again - where did you see those posts?  we're just asking you to present real evidence supporting those hypotheses.

and still waiting for links to peer reviewed publications from these Ufology 'experts'

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The judges should try themselves to create an image like that.

They would quickly understand how much work and how much human thinking goes into this.

of course it's futile to hope for rational thinking by many US congressfolk & judges. their level of ignorance concerning science and technology is staggering consider  evolution-, vaccine- & climate-deniers

admittedly it was a long time ago -  there's former Senator Ted Stevens, chair of the Senate committee responsible for regulating the internet:

the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

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the story this far - lots of hearsay, rumors and conspiracy nonsense - actual evidence? NADA. and any critiques are met with ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the serious lack of evidence other than 'i know a guy who said they knew somebody who saw something'

if posts had to be constructive or interesting this thread would be done - all we get are rumors and links the posters  havent even read!

"It is hearsay therefore it is nonsense and cannot be true" - facepalm. Any report that is contrary to your belief system must be false, by definition. White-swan world.

please quote anyone who has  made such a silly claim 

hearsay cannot be considered true though, until some actual evidence is presented - that's one reason hearsay is not allowed in courts
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Most of the ad hominem attacks and ridicule have been done by denialists a.k.a. white-swan theorists.

Most? please quote such attacks

perhaps your still confusing the difference between questioning an idea and personal attacks

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I am certain you have made more than one petition for this thread to be closed along with your chums and a ban put in place but a moderator would probably examine your contributions and would have to bury you for months in exclusion.
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glad you're certain you know what  i've done. i made no such petition - among several others, i have the ability to ban a user who continually violates forum rules after several warnings. i've done this twice in the last 15 years


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..The foundation of science is curiosity. Without curiosity you can't have science, so denialists should not pretend to be pro-science. People like Garry Nolan or Avi Loeb do science. And science at the highest level, for that matter. They certainly don't lack curiosity.
no, curiosity is a useful trait of the researcher, but the foundation of science is posing a falsifiable hypothesis  then conducting research to confirm or deny it.  please post the peer reviewed UFO-related publications of the people you say do science

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Denialists will try to discredit and ridicule all people and reports that are contrary to their beliefs. No matter what, any kind of reports of black swans must be false, because black swans are not possible. In this forum, it has grown to a religious fanaticism.

But all it takes is a single black-swan event, and a white-swan worldview crumbles like a house of cards.

For what it's worth, I don't know what the origin of UFOs is. But weird things are happening, as acknowledged by people from the US government. Credible and intelligent people, like Nolan and Elizondo had access to classified information and they say some interesting things in interviews, at least stuff that they are allowed to say.....
which critics here have said alien visits MUST be false? instead we ask for some actual evidence -- the results so far are that a few reports re UNEXPLAINED.  it's those who claim they've found black swans to present  actual evidence., not hide behind conspiracy theories that classified info is proof of extraterrestrials.

many classified items are for national security - that we broke Enigma wasn't admitted for 50 years.   and much classified info may not really need to be classified, but the fact of classification doesnt prove anything about UFO aliens

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How embarrassing ... "or looking at the facts". Wow. Clearly isn't keeping up with any news at all. Hasnt read the posts at all. Hasn't verified any facts. Jesus utterly toe curling. Apprently this is an ad hominem attack. The claim of a hypocritic fool, particularly as the majority of her histrionics were personal in nature....
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wow - hoist on your own petard in a single sentence!

-- you ask for facts when you provide none
-- you ask that we read your posts & links while admitting you  havent bothered to do so
-- you continue ad hominems rather than respond to the content

are you really asking to be banned? you've already been given more leniency that people who have been banned for much less.  but then, i guess a ban would just prove your conspiracy theories.

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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Now mummies from space. Don't ruin the childish fantasy with made up stories. This is total nonsense.

As you apparently have nothing constructive or interesting to contribute, you wasted a fantastic opportunity to remain silent.
the story this far - lots of hearsay, rumors and conspiracy nonsense - actual evidence? NADA. and any critiques are met with ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the serious lack of evidence other than 'i know a guy who said they knew somebody who saw something'

if posts had to be constructive or interesting this thread would be done - all we get are rumors and links the posters  havent even read! 


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Adobe Stock / Re: Big drop in sales
« on: September 22, 2023, 13:47 »
same here, sales normal

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you should learn how ML works before making such inaccurate statements - #1 is just wrong - ai generators do NOT use 'parts' of your image - that's done once during training only

#2 you cant find it because they are NOT  'perpetually' using your image

I disagree. Your statements are just as opaque as the original posts about 'training' and a one time payment. At a basic level AI generated images use previous images to make new ones. So I was asking if 'training' is code for taking parts of our images to be used for making new ones. The original post said this is a one time payment. There has been no clarification on any of these terms that I've seen by Mat from Adobe Stock. So far all he has said in response to my questions is that if I remove my images from AS they won't be used for training. If I leave them there when does the training cease?

I also thinking you're an immoral person. Supporting this immoral company shows no care or concern for peoples hard work. They didn't consult us. They just think they can do it under the current agreements. They haven't explained carefully the terms they are using and what they are actually doing. You're dumping on me for asking for clarification.
a one time payment is all that is possible, since if you study ML, you'd realize there's no way to track back from the newly created dataset to the original images.

you mistake my post - i criticized your ideas - not you personally. 
this is not twitter -- attacking a forum member as 'immoral' and continuing such will get you reported & banned.  make your arguments, attack the ideas, but leave out the personal attacks.

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 19, 2023, 13:59 »
I had some editorials go through pretty quickly....maybe they are finally getting a handle on this?

I am afraid not. Editorial photos were reviewed fast all the time, nothing has changed about that.

Waiting 28 days for real non-editorial photos now....   :(

more delay than that for my AI batch; oddly, the other images i submitted at same time were reviewed a week   or so ago

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1. What exactly does "training purposes" mean? Is it code for perpetual use of the images for a one time payment? Using parts of the image in new AI images isn't training. That's baking it in as part of the AI recipe.

2. I've been through my emails from Adobe Stock. I found one email at Dec 2022 saying you're now accepting AI generated images. I can't find one that notifies us that you're using our work perpetually for AI. When did you send us a clear notification that this was to happen?...



you should learn how ML works before making such inaccurate statements - #1 is just wrong - ai generators do NOT use 'parts' of your image - that's done once during training only

#2 you cant find it because they are NOT  'perpetually' using your image

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Canva / Re: Canva July sales are in, and it's not good
« on: September 18, 2023, 13:59 »
my canva income was down 10-15% from the last 2 years thru June. it's now down 20-30%. still, canva's almost always my 2nd largest earner (after SS)

re the pool - many are ignoring the fact that the total # of images is not static - so, if you're not keeping pace w new uploads, your monthly payment will continue to decrease. combine that w the fact that their rejection rate has gotten much higher.  we know canva's income has tripled, but we don't know how much their overall portfolio has increased.  they had stopped accepting new contributors for awhile, but now they do accept newbies

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Matt, when accepting the terms of use of the Firefly plug-in in Photoshop, a message appears that commercial use of the beta version is prohibited. Does this mean that the Photoshop plug-in is still in beta or is it safe to upload files to Adobe Stock?

Firefly is out of beta. You can use it for commercial purposes. Update your main Photoshop on your computer through the Creative Cloud and you should be good to go.

-Mat
the confusion is what commercial means - we can use the images almost anywhere but can't submit these 'commercial' images to Adobe while we can submit all our other images, including ai generated

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once again, you neither understand how these generators work, nor the massive programming involved. have you worked on such huge projects?

if everyone can optout at any time the training would have to be continuous, and there's no indication original images used would still be available - where are those billions going to be fud and how would they be able to identify your work?

but again, you dont understand how these work -; once trained, there is NO way to trace back to original training set.

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my method which stores meta data both in images & an excel worksheet & tracks submission to various agencies

The result is a solution that allows:     

  • Storage of images for easy retrieval
  • Fast sorting by date, topic, etc
    • Instant access to any submission in progress
    • Ability to track and analyze images accepted


    https://cascoly-images.com/building-a-microstock-tracking-system-part-1


    https://cascoly-images.com/building-a-microstock-tracking-system-part-2

    I use this method to track over 100K  of slide scans & digital images. These are stored on an external HD and cloud using Back Blaze. The main reason I don't use other systems is I don't process images in chronological order, especially during frequent travels. Eg, while I rename ASAP and enter minimal info as described in part 1, after that files move thru a variety of paths. Some go immediately to captioning & submission, others need processing thru Topaz AI Phot, deNoise, Sharpen& Giga pixel (usually in batches of 50-100 of images with a variety of dates).  Posting processing is done later  so files are stored in folders whether they need color correction, cropping, isolation, rotation, sky replacement, HDR, etc).  Some finished files go only to agencies, others upload to my Pixify store and others are set aside for use in blogs.  Originals and some intermediate images are archived.

    It sounds complicated, but the use of many folders means everything is organized and there are no steps that block the pipeline.   At any time there are thousands of images along the way, with the biggest holdups in post and in captioning.

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