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SS used to tell us how much we made from content that was of various ages. I tracked it for a while. It was very clear that recent content sales were dropping. Now some of that was due to the percentage of my recent images compared to the whole collection, but it used to be SS was the place where I often got sales soon after an image was accepted or at least within a few days. That almost never happens now. I'd say Adobe has more sales of images uploaded this year compared to any other site.

When SS switched their user page they got rid of ways to tell how crappy they were becoming and instead put lifetime earnings in a massive font.

General Stock Discussion / Re: Alamy - is it worth it?
« on: August 27, 2019, 13:27 »
Alamy seems to be 20% less worth it than last year. Actually probably even less worth it, since sales seem to be lower everywhere and we get 20% less out of each sale unless they are distributor sales which tend to be low $ sales for me. They would have gotten a much more ringing endorsement from me before their latest "unsustainable" money grab.

Sales at Alamy are all over - some big $, some under a $. Some months they are my best earner, some months 0 sales. Sometimes sales are refunded months later - often to be resold almost immediately for a few cents less. Some sales take months and months to actually be paid.

 What will sell and why is a complete mystery to me.

The keywording is a pain there, and it isn't clear at all what actually helps and what hurts.

78 / Re: Where are sale statistics ?
« on: August 26, 2019, 14:17 »
They still have this page, although the link is fairly well hidden and at some point it will probably stop working.

I would need about 10 million more images or video to sell.

80 / Re: SS keywords trends
« on: August 22, 2019, 09:46 »
That was a potentially useful tool, so of course they got rid of it. (as far as I know).

81 / Re: I'm having horible month on SS
« on: August 20, 2019, 12:14 »
SS is pretty weak for me this month too - Like more than half the days are weekend days poorly. June and December were also particularly bad, but this month is on track to be worse.

Probably my #2 site this month, but that is only because the other sites are mostly doing very poorly too.

I don't know if it is some algorithm shift or just the cumulative effect of how the numbers are going - a similar number of sales for less $ spread among lots and lots of competing images.

82 / Re: Where are sale statistics ?
« on: August 12, 2019, 18:02 »
I do wonder if these redesigns of the interface is done to hide the lack of sales. Both SS and DT seem to have come up with maybe prettier but way less useful new "improved" designs.

As far as I can tell there is no way that an actual user was consulted in these redesigns - or if they were consulted they ignored their input.

83 / Re: Botanical names
« on: July 31, 2019, 14:05 »
It looks like they did not remove them from my most recent upload.

I made a single slide jig that stuck on the end of my macro lens - mostly cardboard and a bit of old balsa wood, but I like your lighting method. I too discovered that old slides are not all that sharp compared to modern digital images. I do have a small pile from a great aunt from the 40s-60s that might have some decent old street scenes and historical tourist site pics. I should look at them a bit.

123RF / Re: Do you make $100/month at 123RF?
« on: July 30, 2019, 17:16 »
I  started uploading there about 9 months ago and have about 600 of my best images there.   This month for the first time I should make 100$ on normal sales (currently at nearly 75$) althought Thanksgiving might ruin it if the customers are
American.  Last month I made more but had 2 ELS at about 20$ each.
How long have your photos been live?

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Notice the date on the post - things were very different in 2008 for example - your images sold at 123RF

86 / Re: Botanical names
« on: July 30, 2019, 13:25 »
I just spot - checked a few images and they still had the Latin names in the keywords (separated out as single words as DT does). They were submitted a while ago, so maybe this is a new policy. I just submitted one, so I'll see what they do with it (if they accept it).

Cameras / Lenses / Re: $50 Insurance saved me $2,400
« on: July 29, 2019, 10:27 »
I have a few of those.

It is surprising how good the pics are through the busted filter. One took 2 people and a pair of pliers to remove, but the lens was good.

88 / Re: This is what we need!
« on: July 26, 2019, 23:23 »
Am I the only one who throws up a little in my mouth every time I see one of SS "inspirational" posts?

Some interesting takeaways....

$800,000,000 paid to 550,000 contributors averages ~$1455 each. The slices keep shrinking especially if you aren't enterprise or offset.

All of their example images are from Offset.

Rafa Fernandez and Canvan images are using the same bicycle and backdrop

89 / Re: June Royalties are in
« on: July 22, 2019, 12:27 »
Can anyone say what they get for a standard Canva sale through Getty? On Canva there are 3 tiers, normal common 1$ sales for which Canva pays .35  uncommon 10$ sales for which they pay $3.50 and almost non-existent $100 sales which they pay $35.

I am curious what a sale through Getty makes the artist.

90 / Re: Worst month on shutterstock
« on: July 02, 2019, 13:55 »
I have to go back to May 2007 to find a worse month. I had about 250 images then (less at the start of the month, a few more at the end). The downward trend since ~2012 for me seems to be accelerating.

Canva / Re: Canva - did I miss something?
« on: June 29, 2019, 21:00 »
I have single uses mainly $1, some 90c and a few $1.40 - for which I got paid 35c each. Then I have (had!!!) multi use ones $10, I got $3.50. Nothing else....

If I were you, I would write to them and ask. They do at least have a fairly responsive support team....

The $1.40 sales with 35c payout I guess shows they aren't doing 35% anymore. Did they announce anything about this?

My understanding was that this was for a non dollar currency and the value was approximately one dollar so we still get .35 (I only read that somewhere, and can not vouch for it being actually true)

In other news it has been months since I got anything more than .35 per sale although last year I got a fair number of 3.50 and even a few $35 sales. My old reliable sellers have only sold a few times this month (as opposed to nearly every day in the past) and the images that were part of a pre-made image haven't sold at all this month and the last one was May 5th.

92 / Re: Worst month on shutterstock
« on: June 23, 2019, 20:24 »
sadly my month is looking pretty weak too. DT was running even with SS for a while this month but SS has pulled ahead - of course it used to be 6 times DT, not less than twice.

I thought it was the "related topics" at the bottom after the thread - If you just click on those without looking at the dates you could easily end up reading an old old thread and then commenting on it.

I think I had 2 self portraits in my last submission - one was an old one - before 50, one was more recent - over 50. Both had the same model release, except one was submitted as under 50 and one was submitted more recently for over 50. They accepted the more recent and rejected the older one. It is completely ridiculous to not accept one self portrait model release, if you sue yourself for submitting a photo you took of yourself, you are not going to get very far.

I think they have rejected nearly every one of my other older previously accepted model releases for about a year. If anything new sold I'd maybe try to get a new model release for them, but as it is - they are accepted at other sites.

I don't know much about video sales since they are very rare for me, but photo sales have been sad for a while and are pretty lame this month. I also notched up my first 0 sales weekday yesterday.  I've had a few 0 sales days on weekends in the last few years and in my first months, but not on a weekday. Maybe not ever since I got my first 7 accepted, certainly not since I had more than 20 or so accepted.

VideoBlocks / Re: another good news from storyblocks?!!
« on: June 03, 2019, 18:48 »
"it can only get better" yeah, sure,

General Stock Discussion / Re: Microstock vs. Unsplash
« on: June 02, 2019, 16:42 »
I would say that if you are doing microstock to market yourself for contract work you are doing it wrong.

I have no idea if unsplash is a good way to market yourself. I certainly wouldn't suggest sending full or even high resolution images there.

My main strategy for "retirement" is learning to live cheaply. When I finished grad school I didn't really change my lifestyle when I got a real job except I bought and lived in a duplex and rented the other side out and rented both sides out when I moved for work. Then I lost my job and lived in my truck for 14 years (lots of opportunity for cheap living there). That is when I started microstock. I wish I had taken it more seriously in the early years when new uploads and hard work actually produced a noticeable return, but I was mostly having fun. Then I bought an old church with the money I had saved from working back in the day plus rental income and spent a year fixing it up into my current home. As long as health care costs don't go through the roof for me, I figure I can keep on keeping on until I die. I have some old Roth IRAs from when I was working and in a general year spend less than I make. The cost of doing without is the same everywhere - but I am rich in experience and free time and manage to do most of what I really want to do. My life is much much better than when I was working full time although I am not as fiscally solid as I was then. I live in a paid off house in a place I love and am in essence retired already.

A while ago SS determined that a company producing calendars was using images with a regular license that should have had an EL. I have no idea if the company paid more than EL license fees, but I got an EL sale for an image that they had used (back when EL meant $28 for the contributor).

If you are going to lose a lot of sleep over potential fraudulent uses then microstock is not the place for you. If it has never been for sale on microstock and a big company based somewhere that gives more than lip service to intellectual property is using it then good luck, you might actually get something from them.

General Stock Discussion / Re: EyeEm's "Great News"
« on: May 23, 2019, 14:31 »
Instead of that, why don't they just throw a bottom limit for sale price (or $ returned to them) by the "partner" sites?

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