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General Stock Discussion / Re: Stock Photography Future
« on: September 17, 2020, 20:05 »

Somewhere, someone is still telling people, this is a good way to make extra money?

Shutterstock is still trying to get contributors to go 'more pro'...see their 'Additional Resources' page on which they show all sorts of Hollywood film-makers 'secrets' for great footage! ;D Like you wanna do that for a dollar!

10 Types of Shots and Angles Every Filmmaker Should Know:




is still visible, Shutterstock compliance just emailed me that they have disabled the portolio

Success! Thanks Jo Ann. That's pretty fast action for them. If I click on the first image of the portfolio which is still visible I get the image but with name and profile photo blank....so that must be the first stage of disabling the port.

Edit: Now 100% gone. (9/7/20)

Thanks Jo Ann. Let's see how long it takes to remove the whole port. Knowing SS, if Kirsty Pargeter complains, they'll remove her image and leave the rest intact. They really don't give a s**t.

What always amazes me is that I've never seen a thief that isn't a serial offender yet SS will only remove the first couple of images that the real authors complain about. Only after 3+ complaints will they shut down the port. IMO if a 'subscriber' has one stolen image then the rest of their port is most likely also stolen.

The trouble is that policing image theft is not part of the profitable operation. Not preventing it is/can be profitable for SS. After all, thieves only steal good sellers and if SS can sell the same popular image twice and then withhold payment to the fraudulent contributor and not have to compensate the original author, then that's a real win-win situation for SS.

There's another brazen thief posting over on the Contributor Experience forum over on SS. He/she/ it is asking what kinds of subjects sell. Probably looking for more photos to steal (based on recommendations of subject matter.)

Edit: woops I didn't realise that this same thread was already being discussed.

By the way, it may have been Design Space who deleted that thread. There was another thief who posted on the forum some time back and it was believed that that one was deleted by the thief himself when he was exposed by other contributors.

Ah! Didn't realise that that was possible. He/she was the OP but I'm surprised that it's possible to delete everything once the thread has developed. Must admit it did seem rather fast work for SS!!

All SS cares about is that the thread exposing thieves is taken down whilst the thieves remain. As usual the thief comes to the forum asking people to show their most popular and when one of the forum regulars posts 5 photo's of the thief's next to 5 originals of theirs others chip in to show that the name and photo of the contributor are fake as is the country of residence given (USA but likely India).

Thief's port: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/design_space

Port is still up but the forum thread has been disappeared. 'Course that's the easiest thing to do...no thread, no discovery, no problem with thievery.

Profile photo fake too: https://twitter.com/amina_saidy

Shutterstock.com / Re: Timing of the royalty cut
« on: August 20, 2020, 07:36 »
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com   <--- their trustpilot is going from strength to strength.  Should pass 1000 reviews this week.

Who in their right mind would (i) spend a fortune each month on a package or (ii) buy shares with a reputation from both buyers and contributors as equally dismal as they have?

It's interesting to review those comments from buyers before the flood of negatives from contributors (around page 30). Loads of people thinking they were signing up for one month trial discovered that they signed up for a year and that it cost them to cancel. It seems to happen so frequently that their dubious practices must be by design rather than co-incidence/stupidity of buyers.

Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock Forum Deactivation
« on: July 24, 2020, 16:13 »
New posts are appearing. But it doesn't work for me so it must be those who found a workaround.

Just heard back from 'support'. Apparently if I use my web browser rather than my mobile I will be able to post on the forum and pigs may fly. I will give up now or I may have to contact the Samaritans.

Not true anyway. I only log in from a browser and if I try to reply to a thread post, I get this (after I'm taken to the top of the page):

Yep. Here are the black sheep without any wool!  ;D

I think that SS does notify you if you're banned because they also give you a re-instatement date. I looked at my forum profile and no bans or warnings on that. So.....maybe they just suspended the forums. Must have been painful to them having gotten all adverse comments removed from FB and other social media only to discover that they were hosting their own adverse comments site.  ;D

Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:48 »
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

I dont think so. I just quoted you. But I work on an ipad and this forum software isnt very ipad friendly.

I don't mean the SS forum on MSG but the SS forum on Shutterstock. No new posts since Tuesday either.

Dunno what's up with SS forum but I noticed yesterday that 'quotes' were disabled but didn't try to post anything. If you look at the landing page of the SS forum you'll notice that the last posts (most up-to-date) are from Tuesday. I reckon that it's maybe been cancelled due to lack of positivity toward SS.  ;)

Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: July 22, 2020, 19:22 »
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Down?
« on: June 30, 2020, 06:10 »
Blank landing page on Adobe Contributor for me 1pm CET. Ok earlier this am. Firefox. Win 7 and 10.

Pity I didn't buy 2 BTC with every month's SS earnings in 2014! (OK that's really the same as going to the casino and getting lucky!!!)

Wouldn't need to work any more.  ;D

Waiting until the May payment is on the bank, then disable port...only photos no video(thank goodness).

Gone from $300-400/month in 2015/16 to $100/month now. Half or one third of that is unacceptable and I'm not going to let them earn off me to that extent.
Hopefully if enough of their contributor base denies them the ability to make out like bandits from their hard work, their buyers will desert in droves due to lack of decent content. Then the senior execs don't get their bonus which is what it's all about anyway.

Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock reviews slow?
« on: June 02, 2020, 07:13 »
Submitted 12 commercial and one Illustrated editorial on May 21st. The Ill-Ed was approved immediately and the 12 were approved today. So that's 11 days I think.

Will wait until I'm paid for May then I'm out. Pointless.

General Stock Discussion / Re: Say Bye to Opting-Out
« on: February 25, 2020, 20:41 »
As George Carlin (RIP) once remarked, " You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. "  ::)

General Stock Discussion / Re: Shutterstock vs Adobe Stock
« on: February 12, 2020, 20:51 »
In 2012 I started on SS having been on AS/FT since 2008. I have almost the same number of images on both (5% more on AS). Almost no editorial and SS even today makes consistently 3-4X more than AS for me in an average month and that used to be 10X. AS sometimes brings a surprise with a $50 custom sale but they're less frequent than $20-$50 SODs at SS. New images seem to have more 'chance' at AS but with SS 'new' is pretty hopeless. (In the good old days with SS 'new'  submissions found a place on the first page of new for a day or so). Now that's down to a matter of minutes or hours before they're deluged under a pile (in the non-niche categories) never to be seen again.

If I take RPD over lifetime with both AS and SS, I see that both are around 0.70; the only difference being that AS is in GBP () and SS is in USD ($). With 4 years less at SS, I have a factor 3-4X as many dl's at SS compared to AS.

Paypal used to be 2.5% for USD to EUR but in the course of the years they've upped it to 4% (Preypal). I usually just try to pick a time to convert my USD and GBP to EUR when the exchange rate is favourable. Still lose the egregious 4% to the sharks but it seems less painful when the USD is high against the Euro.

Occasionally, I'll buy something on Ebay UK with my GBP (usually stuff coming from China!!).

General Stock Discussion / Re: January 2020 Earnings Report
« on: February 01, 2020, 15:54 »
Not Anglo-Saxon notation. Funny, never occurred to me before as I've lived in NL for 40+ years. I imagine that SS adjusts the notation depending on the country of contributor. Soooo....for you:

General Stock Discussion / Re: January 2020 Earnings Report
« on: January 31, 2020, 20:45 »
A sterling month for me at SS with the best sales in more than than one year.

Really peeving though is an example of what I would call 'blown pallindrome syndrome'.......missed by one friggin' cent  ;D

How SS accepted these without a (legitimate) press pass is beyond me.

Whole account comprises of stolen images...


How shutterstock went from a decent agency to an outfit that can't control jack sh*t is also beyond me :D

Pure WallStreet GREED....that's how!

Within 5 mins I spotted more than dozen thieves proliferating at SS...


Just follow the peach trail and it will lead you to many accounts that lead to many more into infinity...

Yep. Something weird about a couple of those thieves' accounts and that is that their account name doesn't appear in the space where it should......... just a grey pulsating rectangle!! Hovering over that grey rectangle with the cursor reveals 2 weird account names...'think4321' and 'OuSs-911'

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