get this: final paragraph:

.........."who attended court in a wheelchair, and his wife, but said he wanted the matter dealt with quickly, considering their ages."

oh bugger,
that really kills me !
which reminds me, i should be looking for some plaster of paris, and a wheel chair.
i could do with a new yacht !    

Sometimes I think eating is cultural habit. French are less obese than Americans ;-) It must be combination of cuisine and lots of wine versus hamburgers and beer :-)

u may have a point there, mela! french, incl the canadienne (ie french canadians) tend to walk, jog, cycle, hike, etc more as activity minded. their english speaking cousins do more watching tv, drive cars, etc...which get  them to get obese. good observation.

Something really is happening at BigStock , since yesterday I had my BDE with 7 downloads, two of them for 2$. What's more, new and totally different images were downloaded compared with before. For me at least, the new search algorithm seems to work much better, with the same large variety of downloads as on Dreamstime.

1) isn't it great to see download and have $1 instead of 30cents attached to it.
2) one diff with DT, the new images are still not being found in the search. and if so, only certain favoured contributors are on the first pages.

not quite what Bigstock has achieved here. that is something to write home about, for sure. good show BigStock.

666 is not a good number 

i stumbled upon this topic by hatman, which except for the numbers seems like history is repeating itself, with the situation of lots of new images, no views.
thought i resurrect the topic instead of starting a new one.

btw, where IS hatman? he used to be such a regular . are you using a new alias like everybody else. you had many good comments. wish you're still with us.
a new alias is good, it's like a new hat ! (no pun intended).

back to topic, awash with images... so, where is the customers, better... where are the views? search engine trouble?

Perry, all applaudable ideas, which I am sure Keith of Zymmetrical and John of Cutcaster would try implementing.
Only one problem, I stop after reading 1) and 2), because I can do the same with Istock, even more now with Vetta.
Problem with a new site no matter how good the vision and intention may be, is the main draw ...the carrot: BUYERS CONNECTION.
At the flip of a coin, Fotolia, Istock, BigStock Photo, even CanStock can do better than your new site... because they already have an established buyer base.
Oh, I forgot to include  Veers Marketplace , of course.

You have one thing right for sure: we are all just about had it with new sites popping up with magical promises. Like magicians, it's all conjuring lots of beautiful things , when in reality, it's all illusion.

Finally, what about your site's name?
How about  MAGICstock ? or STOCKILLUSION ? 

good post though !

ooohhh you've left yourself so open with that one, especially with the pickle. But its a public forum and I wont go there

  yes, we need to practise a bit of discretion here. we won't want Tyler to start rating comments (R- G - X - PG) . let's keep this PG at worst 

Quote from: cevapcici on July 08, 2009, 12:11

Ah, ok. Well that would be a great idea. Go for it!
The problem for the exclusives would then be that commissions would have to be lowered, since their higher commissions are partly subsidized by the lower commissions of free contributors.

True that^^. 

Plus of course, the exclusives get many other advantages over non-exclusives, such as search engine placement, private forums, etc. and those perks would become irrelevant if everybody was exclusive.

But the number one reason not to get rid of independents is (drumroll please....)

Because istock would lose roughly half its content.  They could no longer claim to have what the others have PLUS exclusive content.  Other sites would then have much larger collections and a big competitive advantage.

But hey, if you want them to go that way, cool by me.  I have already run the numbers and I would get by just fine without the income istock generates.  Even more so when their buyers realize the collection has been halved and go joining other sites en masse

interesting response from both sides (cevapcici, PixelBytes)  (ichiro17) .
 i was actually hoping to touch on exclusive images other than IS, but you (cevapcici, PixelBytes) brought up another pointer i never thought of, viz the importance independents figure in the whole IS equation. although i am sure exclusives will no doubt beg to differ.

 thx you 3, and thx too to hawk_eye for letting me go OT (silence mean consent ).

Quote from: puravida on July 08, 2009, 09:58

Larry, by checking up on the MSG archives, i know you are a big fan of Big Stock.
i am too.

however, i never really paid much attention to the search options.
 can you shed some light to tell me why you think this is GREAT!... ?

I assume you have a port on BigStock. If so search your own images with the new search tools, with and without keywords.

The results are fair when searching the full site. Before when searching the oldest images were given a push to the front! Some with numbers less than 100 !!!

Now when I do a search using keywords that I know should bring mine to the front or very near the front. They are there!!

Try it a while.

-Larry

hmm,
hmm, sounds like a good dream (no pun intended)
if this is not just some new game (ahem) , then hats off to BigStock.
thanks Larry, i will surely check it out.

As much as we hate to admit it, white milk still outsell chocolate milk 

lol, and from your avatar, it is pretty obvious Jennifer Connelly is hotter than Halle Berry , hmm???

going off slightly, i hope hawkeye  will allow me to ask this question-
 those of you who are not for exclusive, would you still go for exclusive image with a specific site? if so, which site, and were they beneficial?

I don't approved the 6 months lock in at DT but I can understand it up to a certain point. IMO, it should be a lot less. I'd be happy with 3 months like BS or with 60 days like Veer. But when I enrolled at DT, it was clearly stated in the contract and I choose to accept it and I have to live with my decision.

I appreciate your point, Talanis. I was also sounding like you many months ago when all the views and downloads seem to be working in my favor. You, no doubt ,are enjoying the good fortune with DT
so like you said, even if you don't approve of it, you live with the decision.
However, a number of posters here have also voiced a dissimilar situation in that many , if not most , of their new uploads are not get any views, so naturally not being found,and of course needless to say, no downloads.
We all went into the agreement bona fide that the agencies work with us to give us some assurance of a level playing field. If your images are not being found in the search , and not getting view, this is not compliant to the agreement we initially agreed. 
In the real world I am aware of the non - competition clause as a Consultant. But I am also aware that there is such thing as a breach of faith, and that too can be a cause to nullify the contract both parties signed. A contract works both ways, Talanis, to protect not just the contractor, it also works to protect the contractee.
Both parties have an obligation, not just the contributor to the agency.

errata:
breach of faith x-  s/b breach of trust +

EDITED
...except for a bizarre and ambiguous clause which seems to say that if you want to license your rejected files RM, you have to get the explicit permission from support.

this is what i still cannot fathom the sensibility. if you rejected those images why is it so forbidden to allow them to be sold RM ?  this sounds too much like work for hire where every single images really belong to the company that pays you. can anyone justify this for me? other than just being quote: ANAL unquote...?