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« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2020, 14:37 »
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Just to update on the actual topic. My current RPD is 0.736, excluding video which is not bad as I had some SODs that brought the average up.

I still hate the new earnings system and consider this an anomaly. I didnt jump ship so far as I wanted to gather enough data beforehand. I still resent the idea of selling subs for 10 cents. If it was possible I would opt out of selling subs to those buyers with large package deals, I surely would. Even if it meant a lot less money for me.

BUT I have to say that I am very honored to be in the company of some courageous people who disabled their portfolios straight away. If a change is goingto happen, it will be because of them and THEM only. My attitude in this matter is not fruitful BUT I gave myself 2 weeks to see where I stand. Even if I stay and my earnings dont change I will feel like a traitor.

I will decide together with the Russians 8)


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« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2020, 14:41 »
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Just to update on the actual topic. My current RPD is 0.736, excluding video which is not bad as I had some SODs that brought the average up.

I still hate the new earnings system and consider this an anomaly. I didnt jump ship so far as I wanted to gather enough data beforehand. I still resent the idea of selling subs for 10 cents. If it was possible I would opt out of selling subs to those buyers with large package deals, I surely would. Even if it meant a lot less money for me.

BUT I have to say that I am very honored to be in the company of some courageous people who disabled their portfolios straight away. If a change is goingto happen, it will be because of them and THEM only. My attitude in this matter is not fruitful BUT I gave myself 2 weeks to see where I stand. Even if I stay and my earnings dont change I will feel like a traitor.

I will decide together with the Russians 8)


Thank you :) You are welcome to join, together with the Russians! I know they are many :)
Also, you can join Stock Submitter Coalition on FB, together we can do more!
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« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2020, 15:16 »
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Back to the topic at hand, my overall income drop using the excel is -20%, but while the number makes it seem like a small drop the analysis is scary
- For most days, my numbers are almost 60% down, these are high image subscription sale days
- One day has a +100%, mainly because there is a subscription sale at 0.83c my guess is a mislabeled SOD (since SS confirmed it had misreportings in the in first few days)
- Again my highest contributing day is -20% since there was a video sale which at my current level gives me 25% vs the old 30% since the amount is high this brings my total almost to -20% itself.

Problems
- My image income since it's mostly subscription is a total washout
- Video sales may save it for now, but come jan this will be a washout as well
- The mix could change at anytime with lower subscriptions and we'll be stuck

TLDR : In my port there is NO EVIDENCE that getting to level 5 or 6 will REWARD me more than before

rod

« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2020, 20:23 »
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Quote from: rod
-32.54%, only for subscriptions RPD,  May 1-8 & Jun 1-8
Average per download 0.256 in Jun
 :-[ :-[ :-[

Quote from: epixx
If anybody wnats one, I can post it here if the forum software will accept an .xls or .zip file. So far in June, I'm down 32.48% compared to what I would have received with the old pricing. Comparing with last year or last month is irrelevant.

Can you please both of you care enough to do all the calculations that can fit in this spreadsheet? Without earlier vs current level and without a last 3 month average vs June av, both with EL and w/o, we can't make accurate estimates. It may be a little bit more complicated to deduct categories and downloads but with using a piece of paper and keeping notes of the sums it's a piece of cake. Already tried in an earlier post, it failed because of many random parameters that polluted results. This new effort will produce more accurate results if the data is submitted in the requested format.

It's hard to see what's going on in just a week for me,maybe I can try to do the calculations in  next week.
I think it might be more appropriate to compare with the data of the last June or  whole year in 2019, maybe



« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2020, 22:27 »
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as tier four, my sales price dropped 3/4 of original price. All the enthusiasm to create new content is gone. i have no choice but to upload some easy photo which only take 5 min to retouch. i don't want to wait a whole afternoon in sunshine with high temperature  in summer for a fascinating sunset. 10 cent is nothing worth our efforts.

« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2020, 02:22 »
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So you are still here after saying you were leaving a dozen times ??. The only one making an "idiot" of himself here is you. But that is a common trait of fools. They never notice they are. Sad.

But I'm tired to try to explain to a bunch of idiots what they should do really. Do whatever you want. Couldn't care less.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2020, 09:53 »
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as tier four, my sales price dropped 3/4 of original price. All the enthusiasm to create new content is gone. i have no choice but to upload some easy photo which only take 5 min to retouch. i don't want to wait a whole afternoon in sunshine with high temperature  in summer for a fascinating sunset. 10 cent is nothing worth our efforts.

Thanks, nice and simple, my kind of ask a question, get an answer.  :)

Subs for me, since the change at averaging 19 cents. That's down from averaging 36, ask me, I'm looking at 52% (or down 48% for those who look at the numbers that way) Most are 10c and a couple are more than the old.

End of the month I'll look for another simple, up down thread without the complicated and intricate math. Subs down 48% in value, is easy for all of us to understand.

Here, I forgot what the levels are. I'm 3 close to 4


« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:59 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2020, 11:32 »
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End of the month I'll look for another simple, up down thread without the complicated and intricate math.
Nothing complicated. Just use a spreadsheet to process your datas. No need for a master in physics !

« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2020, 11:35 »
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So many short-minded people in here  ::)

@astockphotographer088
You should make an anonymous poll at the end of June to collect the datas the way you want and avoid all these loudmouths who already know the end of the story.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 11:45 by blue »

« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2020, 11:56 »
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So many short-minded people in here  ::)

@astockphotographer088
You should make an anonymous poll at the end of June to collect the datas the way you want and avoid all these loudmouths who already know the end of the story.
People tend go get angry when they are condescended to and called idiots. Not listening to people who have been in the business for years  or have professional qualifications in statistics is what I would call short minded. Now we are "loudmouths" for daring to voice on an opinion on a forum.

« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2020, 12:19 »
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Now we are "loudmouths" for daring to voice on an opinion on a forum.
Since he did not ask for opinions but for datas...

« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2020, 12:23 »
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End of the month I'll look for another simple, up down thread without the complicated and intricate math.
Nothing complicated. Just use a spreadsheet to process your datas. No need for a master in physics !

I am curious what method you used to get the number of video sales and the number of SODs above a certain level, without manually going through 100 pages of sales.

Do you have a web scrapper able to automate the task and do that nice and easy?
Because if you do that manually and find it easy, then your number of sales is too low to add any significance to the conclusion.
 ;)

« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2020, 12:24 »
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Will be officially 1/3 through the month in a few hours, which makes for a good comparison of the old and new structure.

I'm Level 5, with a large port.

For me, RPD is looking about the same.

Earnings and downloads are tracking about 10% higher than June 2019.

So definitely not the disaster I was fearing, at least so far.  Of course, ask me again in Jan 2021 when I revert to level 1.  That is going to be terrible, I'm sure.

« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2020, 13:14 »
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Now we are "loudmouths" for daring to voice on an opinion on a forum.
Since he did not ask for opinions but for datas...
Sometimes we don't get what we ask for.....not his/her forum tough. If people want to create their own forums and set up their rules they are quite welcome to.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 13:27 by Pauws99 »

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #89 on: June 12, 2020, 10:37 »
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End of the month I'll look for another simple, up down thread without the complicated and intricate math.
Nothing complicated. Just use a spreadsheet to process your datas. No need for a master in physics !

Doesn't matter, he's gone away.

"In that manner, please calculate & submit the following data:
My Current Level:
My Previous Level:
My last 3 month Average RPD:
(Calculate for March April and May, Total 3 month Income / Total 3 month Downloads)
June RPD:
(Calculate for June, Total Income / Total Downloads and please keep updating if possible)
Last 3 month average RPD without EL:
(Calculate for March April and May, Total 3 month Income / Total 3 month Downloads BUT Exclude all Enhanced, Extended or high Single licenses)
June average RPD without EL:"
(no video data)

Really? There's another thread, nice and simple, EPD and I answered.


 

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