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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2020, 09:17 »
+1
If you believe in conspiracy theories - take a look at this thread.
Somehow I missed the response between the two last posts when I was screen grabbing.

Then "poof" the whole thread went missing. Gone from the group FB page.
Apparently, if you are the thread creator on FB, if you delete it all disappears.
Our "Facebook employee" took their own thread down when I called them out.

What do you guys make of this?

I saw some of her posts. Im pretty sure she was a FB/SS spy. But posts are getting flagged in a lot of FB groups (not just related to microstock) as being spam or goes against community standards, when they are not. I personally think it has to do with who FB does business with. I think they are monitoring groups closely that revolve around their ties to that industry. FB is aligned with SS, FB aligned themselves with pHARMa, like that.


« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2020, 09:29 »
+4
That is HUGE!

These big guys deserve props for taking decisive action - it would be so much easier for them to leave their ports on and just stop submitting, and try to wring whatevers left!

Makes me wonder if SS DIDNT make any special deals with ANYONE.
They really are taking a TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT stance.
It is not how big productions work. They can't stop working just like that. They have a lot of expenses, employees, models,
photographers, contracts, offices, debts for equipment, props, vehicles etc. They are better finding another agency, My guess they will go Getty exclusive now.

Oh, Im sure they didnt just stop working. Im sure they will be flooding the other agencies now. And making more than $.10 an image.
Yes, they will. I don't see a problem with that. If they are capable to produce enormous amounts of pictures, congratulations to them. It looks like everything and everyone is going on your nerves. And congratulations to them for making such a brave move!

Everyone is going on my nerves? LOL Because you arent a native English speaker, somewhere along the line you have interpreted my comment as some kind of slam. Its not. Stop reading into stuff when its not there.  ;)
You see - you HAD to point to the fact I'm not a native English speaker. First, because it goes on your nerves, and second to demonstrate your superiority. And you HAD to reply, because you are the more important one.My English is perfectly good to spot a bad person easily. Not knowing a language perfectly has some benefits, you can say thing to people straightforward, like a little naive child. So, I have to tell you this - you are a bad person.

« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2020, 09:33 »
+24
I like what Africa studio did. It help me to stay with the portfolio deactivated.

« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2020, 09:44 »
+6
Agreed. I support them 100%. Good for them for taking a stand. And I wish them all success in the future too. We are all in this together.

« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2020, 11:49 »
+4

« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2020, 11:51 »
+4
I like the speculation that FB might be negotiating to buy SS.    FB will do absolutely anything to boost ad revenue, it's basically all they care about.   A huge library of dirt cheap stock imagery, integrated with their post editor, would be a natural.  The fact that it's 80% [email protected] is lost on someone like Zuckerberg, who has a closet full of gray t-shirts.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2020, 11:52 »
+1
If you believe in conspiracy theories - take a look at this thread.
Somehow I missed the response between the two last posts when I was screen grabbing.

Then "poof" the whole thread went missing. Gone from the group FB page.
Apparently, if you are the thread creator on FB, if you delete it all disappears.
Our "Facebook employee" took their own thread down when I called them out.

What do you guys make of this?

I saw some of her posts. Im pretty sure she was a FB/SS spy. But posts are getting flagged in a lot of FB groups (not just related to microstock) as being spam or goes against community standards, when they are not. I personally think it has to do with who FB does business with. I think they are monitoring groups closely that revolve around their ties to that industry. FB is aligned with SS, FB aligned themselves with pHARMa, like that.

I hope quoting this makes it stay, in case people change what they wrote. FB/SS spies? And trying to infiltrate the group? Really, like someone is so stupid that they couldn't just create a quiet account to watch. Let me help, a spy likes to work in secret not in your face and arguing, attracting attention to their devious plans and plots.

Yes, You can remove posts and comments that you have made on Facebook. You can remove comments others have made on something you've posted, but you cannot delete comments they've left on posts you didn't create. This is also quite ordinary and doesn't need any special access or authority.


« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 11:25 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2020, 11:56 »
+1
We always complain about massive portfolios, but for this kind of actions they are so important. By deactivating some of them SS could see million a million image loss in short period of time.

We complain about massive portfolios filled with garbage, and there are plenty of those on SS. From what I understand, africastudio had some great images. Yes, lets hope other big studios follow suit. I read that the Russian forum was talking about deactivating theirs. We are having an impact! #boycottShutterstock

« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2020, 11:58 »
0
I like the speculation that FB might be negotiating to buy SS.    FB will do absolutely anything to boost ad revenue, it's basically all they care about.   A huge library of dirt cheap stock imagery, integrated with their post editor, would be a natural.  The fact that it's 80% [email protected] is lost on someone like Zuckerberg, who has a closet full of gray t-shirts.

Yep, I agree.

« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2020, 12:02 »
+1
If you believe in conspiracy theories - take a look at this thread.
Somehow I missed the response between the two last posts when I was screen grabbing.

Then "poof" the whole thread went missing. Gone from the group FB page.
Apparently, if you are the thread creator on FB, if you delete it all disappears.
Our "Facebook employee" took their own thread down when I called them out.

What do you guys make of this?

I saw some of her posts. Im pretty sure she was a FB/SS spy. But posts are getting flagged in a lot of FB groups (not just related to microstock) as being spam or goes against community standards, when they are not. I personally think it has to do with who FB does business with. I think they are monitoring groups closely that revolve around their ties to that industry. FB is aligned with SS, FB aligned themselves with pHARMa, like that.

I hope quoting this makes it stay, in case people change what they wrote. FB/SS spies? And trying to infiltrate the group? Really, like someone is so stupid that they couldn't just create a quiet account to watch. Let me help, a spy likes to work in secret not in your face and arguing, attracting attention to their devious plans and plots.

Yes, You can remove posts and comments that you have made on Facebook. You can remove comments others have made on something you've posted, but you cannot delete comments they've left on posts you didn't create. This is also quite ordinary and doesn't need any special access or authority.

NewAfrica different logo maybe trying to imitate and get business? Are the images the same or some other company?

Read Alistair Cottons post. I was agreeing with him. Keep up with the program, Uncle Pete. 🙄

« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2020, 12:07 »
+6
I have a lot of restepect for Africa studio for disabling their port. They are big enough that even with the now much lower payment from SS, it still means they are missing out on thousands of $ each month by pulling their port. I am also glad for them, because that must also mean that they are making enough profit on other agencies to still keep their company sustainable even with the loss.
I hope the loss of such a huge contributor will help stir customers to other agencies.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2020, 12:08 »
+3
Uncle Pete, I have no idea why would anybody not believe me. I'm 55 years old, professional photographer, feeding my family, high school educated. Why would I come to a forum with a fake news?

Anyone paying attention we resolved the misunderstanding. Like two adults.

« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2020, 12:10 »
+3
I have a lot of restepect for Africa studio for disabling their port. They are big enough that even with the now much lower payment from SS, it still means they are missing out on thousands of $ each month by pulling their port. I am also glad for them, because that must also mean that they are making enough profit on other agencies to still keep their company sustainable even with the loss.
I hope the loss of such a huge contributor will help stir customers to other agencies.

I think they are back up under a different name. I hope I'm wrong.

« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2020, 12:28 »
+1

I think they are back up under a different name. I hope I'm wrong.

I hope so too!
Wouldn't it be weird though to start fresh with a new account? There is nothing to gain, but you lose all the search ranks of your images?

« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2020, 12:39 »
+1
Uncle Pete, I have no idea why would anybody not believe me. I'm 55 years old, professional photographer, feeding my family, high school educated. Why would I come to a forum with a fake news?

Anyone paying attention we resolved the misunderstanding. Like two adults.
Of course we did! :)

« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2020, 12:50 »
0
I have a lot of restepect for Africa studio for disabling their port. They are big enough that even with the now much lower payment from SS, it still means they are missing out on thousands of $ each month by pulling their port. I am also glad for them, because that must also mean that they are making enough profit on other agencies to still keep their company sustainable even with the loss.
I hope the loss of such a huge contributor will help stir customers to other agencies.

I think they are back up under a different name. I hope I'm wrong.
Yes
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/newafrica
Also from Ukraine
And the style of images is very similar to the "old" Africa studio

« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2020, 13:06 »
+2
I have a lot of restepect for Africa studio for disabling their port. They are big enough that even with the now much lower payment from SS, it still means they are missing out on thousands of $ each month by pulling their port. I am also glad for them, because that must also mean that they are making enough profit on other agencies to still keep their company sustainable even with the loss.
I hope the loss of such a huge contributor will help stir customers to other agencies.

I think they are back up under a different name. I hope I'm wrong.
Yes
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/newafrica
Also from Ukraine
And the style of images is very similar to the "old" Africa studio

*sigh*
So much about that.


« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2020, 13:19 »
+2
I have a lot of restepect for Africa studio for disabling their port. They are big enough that even with the now much lower payment from SS, it still means they are missing out on thousands of $ each month by pulling their port. I am also glad for them, because that must also mean that they are making enough profit on other agencies to still keep their company sustainable even with the loss.
I hope the loss of such a huge contributor will help stir customers to other agencies.


I think they are back up under a different name. I hope I'm wrong.
Yes
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/newafrica
Also from Ukraine
And the style of images is very similar to the "old" Africa studio

Thats disappointing. Renegotiation?

Shelma1

« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2020, 13:24 »
+2
New Africa has a port at other sites as well. Im guessing Shutterstock gave them permission to have more than one account. Not sure why theyd disable one and not the other.

« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2020, 13:48 »
0
New Africa has a port at other sites as well. Im guessing Shutterstock gave them permission to have more than one account. Not sure why theyd disable one and not the other.

One reason may be a split within the company... Then everyone went their own way with their share of the loot...
I can't actually say...

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2020, 13:51 »
+2
New Africa has a port at other sites as well. Im guessing Shutterstock gave them permission to have more than one account. Not sure why theyd disable one and not the other.
Maybe (speculating) it's like Cathy said, they have negotiated a different rate for specific content. Yuri has two ports on iS, for example, though I have no inside info that it's for that reason.

« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2020, 14:45 »
+1
99.99% same factory.

https://new-africa.com/en/

Scroll down and see the text

"Africa studio

Welcome to the world of modern commercial images and footages.

Bright, creative and trendy images and footages will help you visualize any subject and field of activity."


One of their facebook statuses: https://www.facebook.com/375787673274853/photos/a.375787723274848/375789186608035/
« Last Edit: June 24, 2020, 15:07 by flywing »

« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2020, 14:49 »
0
So, they create them own website to sell them content.

Smart move

Edit: I was wrong, they just re-direct to SS or other agencies

« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2020, 15:28 »
+4
It's huge news. Other big players are joining in. Buyers will be annoyed as hell.
Jon says he does not want our content on Twitter. That goes for the big players too.

My conspiracy theory is that Facebook is about to buy Shutterstock and wants the prices pushed down so that they can give our stock assets away to their advertisers.

That's why FB was so quick to gag the Inside Imaging article. Also would explain why SS seems to have lost the plot wrt to dealing with their contributors. It's FB pulling their strings now.
That would make a lot of sense if true. Facebook are good at ruining things. Instagram for example.

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Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2020, 11:22 »
+1
If you believe in conspiracy theories - take a look at this thread.
Somehow I missed the response between the two last posts when I was screen grabbing.

Then "poof" the whole thread went missing. Gone from the group FB page.
Apparently, if you are the thread creator on FB, if you delete it all disappears.
Our "Facebook employee" took their own thread down when I called them out.

What do you guys make of this?

I saw some of her posts. Im pretty sure she was a FB/SS spy. But posts are getting flagged in a lot of FB groups (not just related to microstock) as being spam or goes against community standards, when they are not. I personally think it has to do with who FB does business with. I think they are monitoring groups closely that revolve around their ties to that industry. FB is aligned with SS, FB aligned themselves with pHARMa, like that.

I hope quoting this makes it stay, in case people change what they wrote. FB/SS spies? And trying to infiltrate the group? Really, like someone is so stupid that they couldn't just create a quiet account to watch. Let me help, a spy likes to work in secret not in your face and arguing, attracting attention to their devious plans and plots.

Yes, You can remove posts and comments that you have made on Facebook. You can remove comments others have made on something you've posted, but you cannot delete comments they've left on posts you didn't create. This is also quite ordinary and doesn't need any special access or authority.

NewAfrica different logo maybe trying to imitate and get business? Are the images the same or some other company?

Read Alistair Cottons post. I was agreeing with him. Keep up with the program, Uncle Pete. 🙄

Yeah I know, it's just the spy stuff that got me sidetracked.  8)

Since I'm not on FB and I don't read all the tweets and I didn't join the group, just because I don't follow FB, nothing else. What was the name and why was it blanked out? Public service, public posts, I'd see nothing wrong with including their name. I only gathered it was a she from one of your posts? Makes me wonder who that was.

New Africa has a port at other sites as well. Im guessing Shutterstock gave them permission to have more than one account. Not sure why theyd disable one and not the other.

One reason may be a split within the company... Then everyone went their own way with their share of the loot...
I can't actually say...

Yes we can speculate all we want, as I wrote in the other same subject, someone write and ask them?

BS, SS and AS are now NewAfrica, some of the old sites are the old names. I didn't dig for account numbers on SS and BS, but the point would be, they changed names, at more than just SS owned sites.

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/293313/africa-studio ID 293313  100 pages
https://stock.adobe.com/ru/contributor/293582/NewAfrica ID 293582 100 pages

I rejoined when Adobe bought FT.  I'm ID# 205931477

belchonock
https://www.123rf.com/profile_belchonock  1,069,790
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/belchonock has no images.
belchonock IS 171490 Photos

Deposit: liudmilachernetska  439,914
DT: Chernetskaya  551,099 files

Quite a spread of account sizes? Different names and accounts. Who knows what that actually means? Nothing top secret all links from https://new-africa.com/en/buy-photo/

But in the end, still on SS and BS.


 

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