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« on: March 27, 2020, 18:12 »
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I just had two waterfall pics rejected.  Why?  This is a new one for me....

"Title: Title must be descriptive and relevant to the subject matter and must be in English. Titles cannot contain special characters, spelling/grammar errors, or repeat words/phrases in excess."

My title for both (same waterfall, different angles) was: Name of waterfall, Name of National Park, Name of State, USA

All in English. Completely relevant to the subject matter.  All spelled correctly.  Nothing repeated.  No special characters - just commas.

Am I missing something here??


« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 18:49 »
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just resubmit and they ll get pass.its not humans its the INFAMOUS AI

« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 01:16 »
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I've had a batch rejected for incorrect location when the location is selected from their own auto complete box, is correct and the only locations in the meta data are exactly the same as that.

Had another for "Translation required" for a photo of a lake and some rocks.  With full English titles and metadata.

I think they've been sniffing all the hand sanitiser they've hoarded.

« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 07:57 »
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No point in stressing over it and wasting any more time. Look how many assets are being uploaded weekly, no workforce can do that reviewing job remotely decent, it's probably just a software mostly.
It just doesn't matter anymore, resubmit if you think you have a strong seller, change title or whatever, it's a waste of time to discuss, a time that could be used for resubmitting or submitting another image. 

« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2020, 10:33 »
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No idea what's going on inside SS but I'm busy shooting "Shutterstock reviewer sniffing glue", "Shutterstock reviewer ingesting peyote", "Shutterstock reviewer toking in parking lot"...
 

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2020, 14:32 »
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No idea what's going on inside SS but I'm busy shooting "Shutterstock reviewer sniffing glue", "Shutterstock reviewer ingesting peyote", "Shutterstock reviewer toking in parking lot"...

Darn, you're the first one to jump on this trending subject. Good luck.  :)

And good luck Ms Hoodie

« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2020, 18:28 »
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unfo adobe does the same thing lately.and now they using as a ecxuse for rejection, Image quality.i double check my images before i submit A and B   And since when microstock photography  was  only for  expensive full frame cameras and ff  lenses? use a nikon d3300 and a sigma 17 50 and it might not be in the same league with ff cameras but still the quality is very good.Not to mention that i now change  the wb in lr a bit so the image looks good at least in my eyes
if you dont want a specific theme in your galleries just say it so. we have too many of these images.shoot somethin else. case is done not the moronic oh noise artifacts IMAGE QUALITY duhhhhhhhhhhhh
and btw I BOUGHT RECENTLY A FF CAMERA but still in box cause of this * virus
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 18:34 by lostintimeline »

« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 00:33 »
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When Shutterstock submission page deletes the keyword "Easter" as an incorrect word and makes it impossible to add it, in Easter themed images, than something very wrong is happening there.

I cannot understand how they did not learn a thing with what happened to IS. A few years back almost everyone raved about how well SS worked pointing their good decisions in contrast with IS, the agency everyone developed a particular hate. And that made SS without doubt the strongest agency.

Now, SS seems to be following the same path of IS, instead of preserving their strong points.

At the moment SS is still my number one agency but the fall has been so big, not only in terms of revenue but also in terms of review quality, that I'm getting fed up with them.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 08:20 »
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When Shutterstock submission page deletes the keyword "Easter" as an incorrect word and makes it impossible to add it, in Easter themed images, than something very wrong is happening there.

I cannot understand how they did not learn a thing with what happened to IS. A few years back almost everyone raved about how well SS worked pointing their good decisions in contrast with IS, the agency everyone developed a particular hate. And that made SS without doubt the strongest agency.

Now, SS seems to be following the same path of IS, instead of preserving their strong points.

At the moment SS is still my number one agency but the fall has been so big, not only in terms of revenue but also in terms of review quality, that I'm getting fed up with them.

They deleted the word Easter? Was it an Easter Image? I have some images with the keyword Easter, so I'm trying to understand what are you saying?

2,397,414 Easter stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free

« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 11:24 »
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When Shutterstock submission page deletes the keyword "Easter" as an incorrect word and makes it impossible to add it, in Easter themed images, than something very wrong is happening there.

I cannot understand how they did not learn a thing with what happened to IS. A few years back almost everyone raved about how well SS worked pointing their good decisions in contrast with IS, the agency everyone developed a particular hate. And that made SS without doubt the strongest agency.

Now, SS seems to be following the same path of IS, instead of preserving their strong points.

At the moment SS is still my number one agency but the fall has been so big, not only in terms of revenue but also in terms of review quality, that I'm getting fed up with them.

They deleted the word Easter? Was it an Easter Image? I have some images with the keyword Easter, so I'm trying to understand what are you saying?

2,397,414 Easter stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free

If Easter painted eggs together with rabbits aren't Easter symbols than I do not know anything. Let's put it this way. Imagine images of Santa Claus having the word Christmas removed.

I even tried to add them manually more than once but the system deleted them all the times. Lets hope they get approved so I try to add them in the Catalogue Manager.

« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 13:12 »
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No point in stressing over it and wasting any more time. Look how many assets are being uploaded weekly, no workforce can do that reviewing job remotely decent, it's probably just a software mostly.
It just doesn't matter anymore, resubmit if you think you have a strong seller, change title or whatever, it's a waste of time to discuss, a time that could be used for resubmitting or submitting another image.

it's a waste of time to re-submit perfectly acceptable images.

« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 17:51 »
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and all that for 24 p  ???

« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2020, 01:41 »
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SS is now rejecting images as similar even if one portrays a woman and another a man doing the same action!!!

Yes I know that they are doing the same action, but aren't a man and a woman different enough to justify the approval of both images?!

Besides, not only the physical appearance is totally different but the clothing has nothing to do with each other.

So fed up!

« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2020, 14:09 »
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When Shutterstock submission page deletes the keyword "Easter" as an incorrect word and makes it impossible to add it, in Easter themed images, than something very wrong is happening there.

I cannot understand how they did not learn a thing with what happened to IS. A few years back almost everyone raved about how well SS worked pointing their good decisions in contrast with IS, the agency everyone developed a particular hate. And that made SS without doubt the strongest agency.

Now, SS seems to be following the same path of IS, instead of preserving their strong points.

At the moment SS is still my number one agency but the fall has been so big, not only in terms of revenue but also in terms of review quality, that I'm getting fed up with them.

They deleted the word Easter? Was it an Easter Image? I have some images with the keyword Easter, so I'm trying to understand what are you saying?

2,397,414 Easter stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free

I have noticed they do this sometimes if for example "easter' is repeated a few times - like "easter egg" "easter basket" "easter" - they might remove "easter" - without telling you they removed it or why - if you try to add it they remove it again - at least once I removed some of the other instances and they accepted it, but if you didn't notice they removed the most important keyword....

« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2020, 15:00 »
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I have noticed they do this sometimes if for example "easter' is repeated a few times - like "easter egg" "easter basket" "easter" - they might remove "easter" - without telling you they removed it or why - if you try to add it they remove it again - at least once I removed some of the other instances and they accepted it, but if you didn't notice they removed the most important keyword....

I guess that was it. All keywords were relevant. I cannot understand why would they remove a relevant keyword, that is not used as spam but the name of the items just because there are several of them!

And the worst is what you mentioned. I haven't seen a reference regarding what keywords were removed, much less the reason.

SS is just getting absurd.

Thanks.

« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2020, 15:58 »
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The title of this thread makes me laugh every time I see it.  Thanks for that.

« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2020, 17:45 »
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just resubmit and they ll get pass.its not humans its the INFAMOUS AI

Thanks.  I re-submitted.  One was accepted and one was rejected for a new reason.  Since they took my favorite of the two images, I'll consider it a win. :)


« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2020, 17:50 »
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No point in stressing over it and wasting any more time. Look how many assets are being uploaded weekly, no workforce can do that reviewing job remotely decent, it's probably just a software mostly.
It just doesn't matter anymore, resubmit if you think you have a strong seller, change title or whatever, it's a waste of time to discuss, a time that could be used for resubmitting or submitting another image.

Not stressing here.  There are more important things to stress over.  Like, do I have enough tp or should I buy another thousand rolls? ;)
It was just a question.  I thought that was what this forum was for.  To communicate with others with what we are experiencing on sites.
If it's a waste of time to discuss, why did you spend your time replying rather than submitting more images?

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2020, 09:56 »
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I have noticed they do this sometimes if for example "easter' is repeated a few times - like "easter egg" "easter basket" "easter" - they might remove "easter" - without telling you they removed it or why - if you try to add it they remove it again - at least once I removed some of the other instances and they accepted it, but if you didn't notice they removed the most important keyword....

I guess that was it. All keywords were relevant. I cannot understand why would they remove a relevant keyword, that is not used as spam but the name of the items just because there are several of them!

And the worst is what you mentioned. I haven't seen a reference regarding what keywords were removed, much less the reason.

SS is just getting absurd.

Thanks.

Yes that could be upsetting. I've never had a keyword rejected, that I know of. Do they notify me or just make it disappear?

Your first post made it sound like they had banned the word Easter, that's why I had to ask, since my painted eggs in a basket all passed.

You can't have the same word twice or two tenses or two verbs or one will be disallowed.

You can't have TALK and Talking. You can't have RUN and Running. Since you haven't linked to the image, none of us can see if Easter is in there once and you tried to add, Easter Egg, Easter Bunny, Easter Colors... or something that contained the word Easter that's already in the keywords.

Mine was Race which makes Racing illegal. I'll just stick with racing as Race could be something with other meanings. BUT... I can't have both and if I add one, the other will be eliminated or one of them will be blocked. Happened over and over before I figured out why. "illegal words removed"

ps been that way for years.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2020, 10:33 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2020, 10:34 »
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In the last batch I uploaded, there was a picture including some pine trees in a forest. I always look at the keywords that SS suggest, to see if there are relevant keywords that I have forgotten, and in this case, SS suggested "forest", which was very relevant.

I was surprised that I had forgotten to put that word myself. But when I checked, I actually had "forest" in the keywords in the file. So SS must have removed the word for some strange reason, and then suggests it.

« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2020, 14:37 »
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Yes that could be upsetting. I've never had a keyword rejected, that I know of. Do they notify me or just make it disappear?

You get a very fast message saying that incorrect keywords have been removed or something like that. I haven't seen the list of removed keywords but noticed that they removed Easter. SS does conjugate words like run/running, etc.

But in this case I had Easter separated and used in conjunction with other words like "easter bunny" and "easter eggs" so to me it doesn't make sense that they would erase the single word since the others a set, if I'm explaining myself correctly.

Unless each single word in a set also works as a single word ("easter bunny" also is treated as "easter" and "bunny" seprately) I cannot understand why they would consider a repetition.

As Jens G, the deleted word ends up showing in the suggested keywords. If you add them they get instantly deleted everytime.

« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2020, 02:16 »
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Yes that could be upsetting. I've never had a keyword rejected, that I know of. Do they notify me or just make it disappear?

You get a very fast message saying that incorrect keywords have been removed or something like that. I haven't seen the list of removed keywords but noticed that they removed Easter. SS does conjugate words like run/running, etc.

But in this case I had Easter separated and used in conjunction with other words like "easter bunny" and "easter eggs" so to me it doesn't make sense that they would erase the single word since the others a set, if I'm explaining myself correctly.

Unless each single word in a set also works as a single word ("easter bunny" also is treated as "easter" and "bunny" seprately) I cannot understand why they would consider a repetition.

As Jens G, the deleted word ends up showing in the suggested keywords. If you add them they get instantly deleted everytime.
It didn't get deleted again in my case.

« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2020, 02:58 »
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The real crap happens when you submit 10-15GB of video clips and they all get rejected for some i d i o t i c reason. Then you have to UPLOAD AGAIN, and it usually passes... Its just wonderful.

« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2020, 05:51 »
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Just guessing.... Noise and artifact rejection?

wds

« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2020, 07:56 »
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SS has become by far the most frustrating agency to contribute to....unfounded rejections galore.

« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2020, 18:23 »
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Just guessing.... Noise and artifact rejection?

Wasn't sure if this as for me or someone else, but my rejection was for focus.  The focus was on the waterfall at f/13, so not sure what more they wanted.

« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2020, 01:19 »
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Same here. Landscapes with f18.

Sometimes all accepted. Sometimes all rejected for focus and noise.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2020, 09:34 »
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Just guessing.... Noise and artifact rejection?

Wasn't sure if this as for me or someone else, but my rejection was for focus.  The focus was on the waterfall at f/13, so not sure what more they wanted.

I know what you shoot and how nice it is, they are being stupid and rejecting water moving for focus, others have found the same. So flowing water gets rejected!

Same here. Landscapes with f18.

Sometimes all accepted. Sometimes all rejected for focus and noise.

Same for yours. Although f/18 is a little over the top and you could be getting some diffraction, that's not going to be enough for a legitimate rejection.

I expect that both of you are smart enough and experienced enough to know that f/4 to f/8 is the sweet spot for most lenses and going higher could cause a problem. But... I doubt that either of you are getting rejections for that reason. Besides if you want to have everything from small objects close up to the distant, all in sharp focus, true f/## is the only way to get that.

I had a clear landscape with a flag, way in the back on the horizon, which got rejected for blur. Yeah, a flag blowing straight out in the wind and they expect it to be sharp, like it's standing still?  ::)

Tough to fight a reviewer who looks at what the software finds and just clicks reject, without using any sense.

By the way, they do look sometimes. I actually had one with intentional shallow focus and motion blur, accepted last month. How unusual and welcome. I had some that were rejected four years ago, I found them and though, hey maybe? All accepted. (except the similar of course)

Then yesterday I had a wide crop accepted, but the rotated square of the same close up, rejected for lighting.  :o Exposure: Content is underexposed, overexposed, or is inconsistently exposed. How's that possible? Not worth the time and I'm over caring. Fine rejected, it wasn't the best image in the world, or the only one, so I don't care.

Bottom line, we still have something out of our control and that's lazy reviewers who want to be fast and make money per click, who aren't actually looking at the images or using any sense.

« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2020, 16:21 »
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Just guessing.... Noise and artifact rejection?

Wasn't sure if this as for me or someone else, but my rejection was for focus.  The focus was on the waterfall at f/13, so not sure what more they wanted.

I know what you shoot and how nice it is, they are being stupid and rejecting water moving for focus, others have found the same. So flowing water gets rejected!

Same here. Landscapes with f18.

Sometimes all accepted. Sometimes all rejected for focus and noise.

Same for yours. Although f/18 is a little over the top and you could be getting some diffraction, that's not going to be enough for a legitimate rejection.

I expect that both of you are smart enough and experienced enough to know that f/4 to f/8 is the sweet spot for most lenses and going higher could cause a problem. But... I doubt that either of you are getting rejections for that reason. Besides if you want to have everything from small objects close up to the distant, all in sharp focus, true f/## is the only way to get that.

I had a clear landscape with a flag, way in the back on the horizon, which got rejected for blur. Yeah, a flag blowing straight out in the wind and they expect it to be sharp, like it's standing still?  ::)

Tough to fight a reviewer who looks at what the software finds and just clicks reject, without using any sense.

By the way, they do look sometimes. I actually had one with intentional shallow focus and motion blur, accepted last month. How unusual and welcome. I had some that were rejected four years ago, I found them and though, hey maybe? All accepted. (except the similar of course)

Then yesterday I had a wide crop accepted, but the rotated square of the same close up, rejected for lighting.  :o Exposure: Content is underexposed, overexposed, or is inconsistently exposed. How's that possible? Not worth the time and I'm over caring. Fine rejected, it wasn't the best image in the world, or the only one, so I don't care.

Bottom line, we still have something out of our control and that's lazy reviewers who want to be fast and make money per click, who aren't actually looking at the images or using any sense.

Thanks. :)
With waterfalls, it depends on the light as to what f/# you can use.  I was already at ISO 100 and my shutter speed has to be a specific number for the water to look correct (in my case, I like the slower shutter speeds).  And using a circular polarizer is a must.  Stacking on another filter could reduce sharpness as well, which is why I don't do it.
Since they took the "better" shot of the two (one was more visually appealing than the other), I am fine with them rejecting the other....even if I do think they were wrong. lol
You can definitely tell when you've gotten a lazy reviewer.  And lately, it seems to be most of their employees.

angelawaye

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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2020, 21:15 »
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Overall, I'm happy with them. Just a few issues here and there ...

« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2020, 01:16 »
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Rejection reasons (1)
Resolution / Aspect Ratio: Clip is a non-standard resolution or is pillarboxed, letterboxed, or matted.


if they can't find a reason to reject, just blame the software that made the file.... r3tards.

« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2020, 00:15 »
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Same for yours. Although f/18 is a little over the top and you could be getting some diffraction, that's not going to be enough for a legitimate rejection.

I expect that both of you are smart enough and experienced enough to know that f/4 to f/8 is the sweet spot for most lenses and going higher could cause a problem. But... I doubt that either of you are getting rejections for that reason. Besides if you want to have everything from small objects close up to the distant, all in sharp focus, true f/## is the only way to get that.



I have this mental fight, my sweet spot is between 8 and 11 but I like the textures with high f numbers and I use to have grass, snow, wood or sand close to my lens. Maybe in architectural pictures I should use more this sweet spot, I use to shoot with high numbers in facades f.i.

I'm still learning, any advice is always welcome.

« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2020, 05:18 »
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Adobe stock declined whole set of pictures from "Iguazu waterfalls" saying it's "Intellectual Property Violation".

How waterfall can be an intellectual property?

Meanwhile, all pictures were accepted on shutterstock. There are no people on those pictures and they are not under editorial licence.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2020, 17:59 by NixyJungle »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2020, 08:41 »
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Same for yours. Although f/18 is a little over the top and you could be getting some diffraction, that's not going to be enough for a legitimate rejection.

I expect that both of you are smart enough and experienced enough to know that f/4 to f/8 is the sweet spot for most lenses and going higher could cause a problem. But... I doubt that either of you are getting rejections for that reason. Besides if you want to have everything from small objects close up to the distant, all in sharp focus, true f/## is the only way to get that.



I have this mental fight, my sweet spot is between 8 and 11 but I like the textures with high f numbers and I use to have grass, snow, wood or sand close to my lens. Maybe in architectural pictures I should use more this sweet spot, I use to shoot with high numbers in facades f.i.

I'm still learning, any advice is always welcome.

To each their own. The whole diffraction thing is for pixel peepers. What I mean is, say I want really, REALLY, deep depth of field, so the grass at the foot of the camera, all the way back to the clouds, is all in focus. Sometimes the only answer is f/22 (I just made that number up it could be f/16) Give a little get a little.

Sometimes f/8 is right because the foreground isn't always necessarily perfectly in focus.

Easiest rule, which is a general guide, but pretty much standard and accurate. 1/3rd in front, 2/3rds in back of the point of focus. Depends on the lens, the length, and of course f number, but there you are.  https://www.photopills.com/calculators/dof

Look at hyperfocal distance, near limit and far limit. This isn't rocket science, you don't have to be precise. Just get an idea and mentally you can visualize for what lens in mm, what kind of depth of field you can expect.

I shoot most of the time with a telephoto, I don't expect much depth of field.  :) If I shut down, they I lose speed and get more blur. If I raise the ISO I don't like the way the grain and noise in the shadows looks. All about balance and decisions and deciding what you want. Or what you need?

Probably 1/100th of a second, f/14 ISO 100, maybe only 100mm, I didn't check. He's probably slowing down, maybe in the 100 - 120 MPH range. The nose and tale of the car, are not in focus. The background blur is from panning. The drivers head and hands are in focus. Sometimes it's fun to take on a challenge.



But that's how different anything can be from a waterfall at 400 yards?  ;D

Night, things get more difficult.



« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2020, 14:45 »
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The real crap happens when you submit 10-15GB of video clips and they all get rejected for some i d i o t i c reason. Then you have to UPLOAD AGAIN, and it usually passes... Its just wonderful.

exactly what has happened to me. PLUS on top of that having to manually go through & title editorial captions following their way/style, + categories, etc...

« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2020, 00:47 »
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Same for yours. Although f/18 is a little over the top and you could be getting some diffraction, that's not going to be enough for a legitimate rejection.

I expect that both of you are smart enough and experienced enough to know that f/4 to f/8 is the sweet spot for most lenses and going higher could cause a problem. But... I doubt that either of you are getting rejections for that reason. Besides if you want to have everything from small objects close up to the distant, all in sharp focus, true f/## is the only way to get that.



I have this mental fight, my sweet spot is between 8 and 11 but I like the textures with high f numbers and I use to have grass, snow, wood or sand close to my lens. Maybe in architectural pictures I should use more this sweet spot, I use to shoot with high numbers in facades f.i.

I'm still learning, any advice is always welcome.

To each their own. The whole diffraction thing is for pixel peepers. What I mean is, say I want really, REALLY, deep depth of field, so the grass at the foot of the camera, all the way back to the clouds, is all in focus. Sometimes the only answer is f/22 (I just made that number up it could be f/16) Give a little get a little.

Sometimes f/8 is right because the foreground isn't always necessarily perfectly in focus.

Easiest rule, which is a general guide, but pretty much standard and accurate. 1/3rd in front, 2/3rds in back of the point of focus. Depends on the lens, the length, and of course f number, but there you are.  https://www.photopills.com/calculators/dof

Look at hyperfocal distance, near limit and far limit. This isn't rocket science, you don't have to be precise. Just get an idea and mentally you can visualize for what lens in mm, what kind of depth of field you can expect.

I shoot most of the time with a telephoto, I don't expect much depth of field.  :) If I shut down, they I lose speed and get more blur. If I raise the ISO I don't like the way the grain and noise in the shadows looks. All about balance and decisions and deciding what you want. Or what you need?

Probably 1/100th of a second, f/14 ISO 100, maybe only 100mm, I didn't check. He's probably slowing down, maybe in the 100 - 120 MPH range. The nose and tale of the car, are not in focus. The background blur is from panning. The drivers head and hands are in focus. Sometimes it's fun to take on a challenge.



But that's how different anything can be from a waterfall at 400 yards?  ;D

Night, things get more difficult.



I have to experiment with my cam, a bit lazy sometimes. When I'm outdoor I'm with my wife sometimes so I don't have a lot of time and use to shoot in the way I feel comfortable (don't want my cam banned on our trips  ;D). When I shoot landscapes I feel in a hurry for the light or the perfect picture that is in my mind and use to shoot too quickly.

But I need more time and calm.

The good thing of stock (the only one) is that my pictures are much much better now after one year and a half. So I'm happy about that. Maybe I need to think less in the commercial value and the things the costumer would need and more in my technique.

Thank you for the tips anyway, the calculators are amazing.

« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2020, 03:24 »
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SS rejections are beyond my understanding of common sense. I uploaded some clips with graffiti on wall and put them under editorial. They got rejected with Not Editorial: Clip does not fall under one of our acceptable editorial categories or it may have been incorrectly tagged as editorial.. Then I resubmit clips and mark them as commercial. They got rejected because: Missing Artwork Property Release. Then I tried the third time, again under editorial and guess what, rejected because Not Editorial. Now let's see what will happened the forth time. And fifth time. And I don't think this is the work of AI, I would say there are some naive or greedy humans involved. And I hope SS goes down. My best seller right now is AD, just too bad they don't accept editorial. And I'm kinda disappointing with P5, sales are super low there.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2020, 14:07 »
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I have to experiment with my cam, a bit lazy sometimes. When I'm outdoor I'm with my wife sometimes so I don't have a lot of time and use to shoot in the way I feel comfortable (don't want my cam banned on our trips  ;D). When I shoot landscapes I feel in a hurry for the light or the perfect picture that is in my mind and use to shoot too quickly.

But I need more time and calm.

The good thing of stock (the only one) is that my pictures are much much better now after one year and a half. So I'm happy about that. Maybe I need to think less in the commercial value and the things the costumer would need and more in my technique.

Thank you for the tips anyway, the calculators are amazing.

Darn I was going to remove those, Oh well, now linked in a quote.  ;D

Here's what I've found. I worried so much about getting things right, that I stopped just having fun and doing experiments. Sure with film that cost me money, but digital? Click, it's gone, no one will see a poorly exposed, crooked, blurry shot of half of a car.

I don't carry a computer to figure hyperfocal distance, I bet it's available for people who care, on their phone. I think anyone here can estimate depth of field after a few years of experience and some learn faster.

What I mean is, have fun, take some intentionally with bracketed f stops and see what you see? How bad is it to shoot at f/8 instead of f/22? Is there some gain in the lighting?

I know what you mean. Fortunately my better half is pretty tolerant and will play candy crush or have a smoke, while I'm out with the tripod because "oh wait honey, I see a shot". She even came along for a couple of my Nature Walks, to the rail yards and tunnels, which she has no interest at all. Railfan photography is pretty much foamers and guy stuff?

And yes years ago I got so set for, will this sell, that I stopped having a good time. With the market down and we're getting mostly subs, I'm not that worried about 38-99 cents made or lost. I make more "not suitable for Microstock" (no commercial value) now than every before. Sometimes I actually make a shot that will sell, by accident?

I mean really? 14 downloads? Why? Who wants this? No I'm not going to be rich, but I will be amused.



« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2020, 23:19 »
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SS rejections are beyond my understanding of common sense. I uploaded some clips with graffiti on wall and put them under editorial. They got rejected with Not Editorial: Clip does not fall under one of our acceptable editorial categories or it may have been incorrectly tagged as editorial.. Then I resubmit clips and mark them as commercial. They got rejected because: Missing Artwork Property Release. Then I tried the third time, again under editorial and guess what, rejected because Not Editorial. Now let's see what will happened the forth time. And fifth time. And I don't think this is the work of AI, I would say there are some naive or greedy humans involved. And I hope SS goes down. My best seller right now is AD, just too bad they don't accept editorial. And I'm kinda disappointing with P5, sales are super low there.

SS Doesn't accept any image or clip with any amount of graffiti.

« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2020, 06:40 »
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2020, 07:21 »
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https://www.shutterstock.com/video/search/graffiti?sort=relevant

From the Contributor Blog:
https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/kbat02/Known-Image-Restrictions-Objects-and-Subjects?l=en_US&fs=RelatedArticle

Graffiti and Street Art

Graffiti and street art, including tags, are subject to copyright protection and require a valid property release from the artist for commercial use

Content containing graffiti or street art that is isolated or the main focus is unacceptable for editorial use

Graffiti/street art which appears to have been taken in San Francisco, CA is unacceptable for either commercial or editorial use

« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2020, 11:31 »
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My content was not isolated. It was filmed in Slovenia, Europe. I did use the editorial, then commercial, then editorial and now again commercial. Rejected three times.

« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2020, 13:22 »
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I have to experiment with my cam, a bit lazy sometimes. When I'm outdoor I'm with my wife sometimes so I don't have a lot of time and use to shoot in the way I feel comfortable (don't want my cam banned on our trips  ;D). When I shoot landscapes I feel in a hurry for the light or the perfect picture that is in my mind and use to shoot too quickly.

But I need more time and calm.

The good thing of stock (the only one) is that my pictures are much much better now after one year and a half. So I'm happy about that. Maybe I need to think less in the commercial value and the things the costumer would need and more in my technique.

Thank you for the tips anyway, the calculators are amazing.

Darn I was going to remove those, Oh well, now linked in a quote.  ;D

Here's what I've found. I worried so much about getting things right, that I stopped just having fun and doing experiments. Sure with film that cost me money, but digital? Click, it's gone, no one will see a poorly exposed, crooked, blurry shot of half of a car.

I don't carry a computer to figure hyperfocal distance, I bet it's available for people who care, on their phone. I think anyone here can estimate depth of field after a few years of experience and some learn faster.

What I mean is, have fun, take some intentionally with bracketed f stops and see what you see? How bad is it to shoot at f/8 instead of f/22? Is there some gain in the lighting?

I know what you mean. Fortunately my better half is pretty tolerant and will play candy crush or have a smoke, while I'm out with the tripod because "oh wait honey, I see a shot". She even came along for a couple of my Nature Walks, to the rail yards and tunnels, which she has no interest at all. Railfan photography is pretty much foamers and guy stuff?

And yes years ago I got so set for, will this sell, that I stopped having a good time. With the market down and we're getting mostly subs, I'm not that worried about 38-99 cents made or lost. I make more "not suitable for Microstock" (no commercial value) now than every before. Sometimes I actually make a shot that will sell, by accident?

I mean really? 14 downloads? Why? Who wants this? No I'm not going to be rich, but I will be amused.



I understand you well. I vave tried to get a solid port but I think that now It's more interesting for me to produce some "small art pieces" that tons of pictures, now when I have a lot of them in all companies. In fact, as you say, when I sell these ones with my vision of a monument It's really cool, not the typical tourist shoot.

I have a plan. To buy a good cam to my wife to get her vision for our trips (not the compact one that she uses now).

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2020, 09:17 »
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I understand you well. I vave tried to get a solid port but I think that now It's more interesting for me to produce some "small art pieces" that tons of pictures, now when I have a lot of them in all companies. In fact, as you say, when I sell these ones with my vision of a monument It's really cool, not the typical tourist shoot.

I have a plan. To buy a good cam to my wife to get her vision for our trips (not the compact one that she uses now).

Sounds like fun. I'm not going to say, here, do this, but a good bridge camera or a good Sony with a fixed lens and APS sensor might be the answer, without getting all fancy and expensive? Two visions is an interesting way to see things. Fujifilm X100F for example, not an expensive or complicated option?

Years ago when it wasn't so difficult to get accepted as media, I applied for Valerie. She's not much into photography but what the heck, I was working, she was along for her interest in Indycar. (It was the IRL, 2011, that long ago) But there are rules and regulations, and a photographer standing out by the fences or in a corner with no camera is strictly forbidden. This isn't a free ticket or for connected spectators. (ps she has also worked safety team, corners and at the tracks, so not someone who doesn't lack the sense of how dangerous it can be) Anyway... Canon 20-D with the 70-200 f/4 L lens, nice setup.

She shot what she wanted, followed around Dario Franchitti and Danica, I shot everything, as that's what I need, everything I can get or everyone.

Nice idea though, both of you enjoying making photos of the travel.


 

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