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« on: February 23, 2022, 10:23 »
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Have others experienced that sales on Shutterstock have almost stalled?


« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2022, 10:48 »
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sales are so slow the year at SS 😕

« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2022, 10:56 »
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Sale numbers are normal for me for this time of the year.

« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2022, 11:06 »
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They have dropped for me like 60% compared to how it was a few months ago. I mean it wasnt like I swimming in success or anything but definitly feel that images that sold all the time suddenly stopped selling. While others have gained traction.

Anyways they reject half of everything so I guess theres hardly any new content for clients. I uploaded about 1000 images and around 300 videos and guess how many got accepted? around 300 photos and les than 10 videos.

Compare to Adobe stock they accepted around more than 500 photos and about 100 videos.




« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2022, 11:31 »
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They have dropped for me like 60% compared to how it was a few months ago.
You should not compare your February sales with sales from a few months ago. Sale numbers are very different in different months, depending on what your port has to offer. February tends to be a rather slow month for most contributors comapred to other months.

 I uploaded about 1000 images and around 300 videos and guess how many got accepted? around 300 photos and les than 10 videos.

Compare to Adobe stock they accepted around more than 500 photos and about 100 videos.
If you have a rejection rate of 90% on Shutterstock and 50% at Adobe you should really re-think your strategy, because there is something seriously wrong with your content. It's not Shutterstock, it's your photos.
A rejection rate of less than 5% on both SS and Adobe would be normal. With everything more than 10% I'd really re-evaluate the quality of the content I submit.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2022, 11:37 by Firn »

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2022, 11:48 »
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For me the number of sales remains stable and it is not so much the problem... the problem I see is very few S.O fat sales this year and a worrying subscription trend. Despite already having a level 4, On demand has fallen below the old fixed 2.85.

Adobe beats Shutter in my case because of how badly shutter does it and not because Adobe improves, because I also see the lower sales.

« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2022, 13:02 »
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Currently I have 50 downloads less than on February 23 last year, but at least I already have a touch more revenue than in the complete February 2021 - which was extremely bad.
Nevertheless, the February revenues at AS are significantly higher.

« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2022, 13:22 »
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They have dropped for me like 60% compared to how it was a few months ago.
You should not compare your February sales with sales from a few months ago. Sale numbers are very different in different months, depending on what your port has to offer. February tends to be a rather slow month for most contributors comapred to other months.

 I uploaded about 1000 images and around 300 videos and guess how many got accepted? around 300 photos and les than 10 videos.

Not useful info really... I didn't star yesterday in this.

Compare to Adobe stock they accepted around more than 500 photos and about 100 videos.
If you have a rejection rate of 90% on Shutterstock and 50% at Adobe you should really re-think your strategy, because there is something seriously wrong with your content. It's not Shutterstock, it's your photos.
A rejection rate of less than 5% on both SS and Adobe would be normal. With everything more than 10% I'd really re-evaluate the quality of the content I submit.

« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2022, 18:44 »
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not much  change in sales or income from SS

« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2022, 18:47 »
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...

Anyways they reject half of everything so I guess theres hardly any new content for clients. I uploaded about 1000 images and around 300 videos and guess how many got accepted? around 300 photos and les than 10 videos.

Compare to Adobe stock they accepted around more than 500 photos and about 100 videos.

what are the reasons for the rejections?  technical or similars?

« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2022, 08:03 »
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I'm 27% ahead of where I was in 2021 (Jan/Feb) in terms of downloads (maybe more because Feb isn't over yet) and twice as much (108%) in terms of revenue.

In fairness, 2021 Jan/Feb revenue was pretty terrible.

Curious as to what this Ukraine war might do to sales, if anything.

OM

« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2022, 20:11 »
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SS this year so far is worse than pathetic and comes ever closer to my irritation-sufficient-delete-port level. (OK I haven't uploaded anything for 2 years)!

2021......Jan+Feb totals. Dls=367 Earnings=$188
2022......Jan+Feb totals (so far). Dls 255 Earnings=$58

« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2022, 13:20 »
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Just worked out my figures and Feb was far worse than i expected.

Download numbers down 25% on last feb and RPD down about 60% despite going through the levels.

Video sales down 50% in terms of volume too.

In total earnings 45% of Feb 21.

« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2022, 17:33 »
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My sales are good.
Better than 2021.

« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2022, 11:27 »
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Sales haven't stopped for me,  indeed DL's are up, but the majority of them have been 0.10 cent sales, which is pretty demoralising.

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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2022, 13:14 »
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Sales haven't stopped for me,  indeed DL's are up, but the majority of them have been 0.10 cent sales, which is pretty demoralising.

That's what's new for me too. While January was downright depressing for the number of sales, Feb has been many more, lots of daily activity, but too many of those * dimes. What ever happened to ELs or looking back best OD so far in 2022 is $2.58  and SOs for .70. What the heck.

But we can trust the annual report that says they are now concentrating on Subscription sales.

maledetti centesimi 

zeljkok

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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2022, 14:50 »
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February RPD

SS: 0.253
IS: expect 0.25 - 0.35 range
DT  0.533
AS: 1.247
AL: 15.829 (net)

These numbers are probably self explanatory.  Yesterday had SS On Demand for 0.23 (!)  AS and AL are only 2 agencies worth contributing to at the moment IMHO


« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2022, 15:03 »
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SS is falling and will fall everyday more. More and more people are not even uploading nothing to this suckers, which is good news because clients are migrating to Adobe. Bye bye SS You deserve it . Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2022, 15:37 »
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SS is falling and will fall everyday more. More and more people are not even uploading nothing to this suckers, which is good news because clients are migrating to Adobe. Bye bye SS You deserve it . Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

Their annula report tells a different story. The only thing that is falling is contributors' revenue per image. SS is doing just peachy.

« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2022, 15:50 »
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SS is falling and will fall everyday more. More and more people are not even uploading nothing to this suckers, which is good news because clients are migrating to Adobe. Bye bye SS You deserve it . Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

Their annula report tells a different story. The only thing that is falling is contributors' revenue per image. SS is doing just peachy.

Firn, like you, I'm not a Shutterstock hater.
But I also see a certain trend reversal here. My focus is on current editorial topics. If my image fits and arrives, I then had mass sales on the topic with Shutterstock and never with Adobe or other agencies. That has changed this year.

« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2022, 18:57 »
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SS is falling and will fall everyday more. More and more people are not even uploading nothing to this suckers, which is good news because clients are migrating to Adobe. Bye bye SS You deserve it . Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

Their annula report tells a different story. The only thing that is falling is contributors' revenue per image. SS is doing just peachy.

yes, it's wishful thinking to say that SS is failing because a few people have stopped uploading - even if no one uploaded anymore SS would do just fine.  those who claim SS is failing, as usual, fail to present any actual evidence

« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2022, 18:59 »
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... Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

nonsense - execs selling stock is natural, not a sign of failure; and there's neither a stampede nor accelerated decline - over the last year the stock went from 90 to 120 then back to 90

« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2022, 01:33 »
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You are the one that is delusional. The same thing happened to Getty/Istock they were the absolute leaders in selling stock when SS was just I tiny blob in the radar. They have fallen to 3 position are riddled with debt and every day are weaker.

Same thing is happening with SS. Oringer saw that Adobe will eat SS and Getty up and spit the bones to the ground. This is because he burned his building down, squeezing every drop of contributors while he is abandoning the ship laughing all the way to the bank.

You might see it or not. Your sales and everyone else who is contributing to SS are weaker everyday. Those that are investing our time in fairer agencies like Adobe, Alamy, Stocksy, Pond5, Arcangel etc are stronger or not falling that much. Good luck to you and your partnership with SS, you will need it.

... Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

nonsense - execs selling stock is natural, not a sign of failure; and there's neither a stampede nor accelerated decline - over the last year the stock went from 90 to 120 then back to 90

« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2022, 13:58 »
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You are the one that is delusional. The same thing happened to Getty/Istock they were the absolute leaders in selling stock when SS was just I tiny blob in the radar. They have fallen to 3 position are riddled with debt and every day are weaker.

Same thing is happening with SS. Oringer saw that Adobe will eat SS and Getty up and spit the bones to the ground. This is because he burned his building down, squeezing every drop of contributors while he is abandoning the ship laughing all the way to the bank.


... Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

nonsense - execs selling stock is natural, not a sign of failure; and there's neither a stampede nor accelerated decline - over the last year the stock went from 90 to 120 then back to 90

you continue to have tunnel vision - as if microstock was the dominant force in the economy. i was just pointing out that MS is not even a blip on the world economy, and its execs are neither evil nor unique but just SOP under laissez faire capitalism

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You might see it or not. Your sales and everyone else who is contributing to SS are weaker every day. Those that are investing our time in fairer agencies like Adobe, Alamy, Stocksy, Pond5, Arcangel etc are stronger or not falling that much. Good luck to you and your partnership with SS, you will need it.

i dont need you to tell me how i'm doing. my sales are NOT 'weaker every day' and your claims about non-SSers are not borne out by posts here.

« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2022, 14:12 »
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SS is falling and will fall everyday more. More and more people are not even uploading nothing to this suckers, which is good news because clients are migrating to Adobe. Bye bye SS You deserve it . Yur fall is accelerating faster than expected. Oringer is selling his shares on a daily basis y you follow the stock market and pages like stockwits. A stampede before the building crumbles.....

Their annula report tells a different story. The only thing that is falling is contributors' revenue per image. SS is doing just peachy.



Firn, like you, I'm not a Shutterstock hater.
But I also see a certain trend reversal here. My focus is on current editorial topics. If my image fits and arrives, I then had mass sales on the topic with Shutterstock and never with Adobe or other agencies. That has changed this year.

See, but that's your personal experience. My Shutterstock sale have been absolute crap for the past 3 months, it's not even worth mentioning.
Yet, I don't go around shouting that Shutterstock is going down the drain, when I can see very clearly from their official report that they are thriefing. It's just the contributor's income that keeps getting lower, but the numbers are there, clear as day: Reducing contributor's revenue was a great bussiness step for SS and the people who are porclaiming that this was the end of SS are just doing so, because they want it to be true, not because it is. They hate what SS has done to their earnings and hope that it will backfire on SS. But karma is just wishful thinking and not everyone gets what they deserve. SS is, from am bussiness perspective doing good. Doesn't mean contributors are as well.

Beleive me, I am not rooting for SS. If SS had indeed lost all its customers to Adobe, I would be really happy about that! But I am not just making  things up to fit my point of view like everest. I see their report, I see they make great profit, I see they are doing well.
I have had no noticable raise in income on Adobe for well over 1,5 years. It's falling or stagnating and always performing far worse than SS. January and February for example have been especially bad on SS (worst earnings in 1,5 years) and yet Adobe was still doing even worse for me.

As for iStock, that has basically been proclaimed as dead by everest, - it has been my best earner for months, performing really well. Adobe is not even earning me a fraction of that.

I submit the same content with the same keywords to all these agencies.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2022, 14:48 by Firn »


 

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