Author Topic: Monthly income poll updated and fixed vote now (Read 31993 times)

steheap · « **Reply #75 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:18 »

This is looking good - a lot more informative than the old system.

My results mirror these reasonably well, although iSignstock is up among the middle tier for me. Is it not showing because of a lack of poll responses so far? It would be interesting to see what would happen if you lowered the threshold below 50 votes for this first month.

Steve

luissantos84 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:25 »

Quote from: THP on February 19, 2012, 17:10

Seriously, BigStock is above Depositphotos, Photodune, Veer!!??

This blows me away. Can this really be true?

I believe some old contributors like over 4 years do quite well there, at least from some reports here at MSG

lagereek · « **Reply #77 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:03 »

DP, is great, Bigstock thanks to the bridge is also great. Without the bridge however you might just drown.

leaf · « **Reply #78 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:33 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 20, 2012, 12:03

DP, is great, Bigstock thanks to the bridge is also great. Without the bridge however you might just drown.

DepositPhotos is better for me than Bigstock, but really, 12.7 and 11.8 where they both currently sit are pretty close.

leaf · « **Reply #79 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:35 »

Quote from: steheap on February 20, 2012, 11:18

This is looking good - a lot more informative than the old system.

My results mirror these reasonably well, although iSignstock is up among the middle tier for me. Is it not showing because of a lack of poll responses so far? It would be interesting to see what would happen if you lowered the threshold below 50 votes for this first month.

Steve

Yeah, Pond5 is really quite high, but they only accept video so far. A few of the vector sites are also quite high but only have a few voters.

LesHoward · « **Reply #80 on:** February 20, 2012, 13:14 »

Quote from: michealo on February 20, 2012, 10:11

Could you hide the poll page from users with less than a certain amount of posts (say 50)?

I should clarify and say the poll input page

I can understand your reasoning behind that but I disagree. I read this forum nearly every day but, according to my stats, I only post about once every 9 days. This is my 40th post since March 1 2011 (357 days). I don't usually post unless I have something to add to the conversation - something that hasn't already been said. I'm sure there are many others like me.

leaf · « **Reply #81 on:** February 20, 2012, 13:26 »

Quote from: LesHoward on February 20, 2012, 13:14

Quote from: michealo on February 20, 2012, 10:11
Could you hide the poll page from users with less than a certain amount of posts (say 50)?

I should clarify and say the poll input page

I can understand your reasoning behind that but I disagree. I read this forum nearly every day but, according to my stats, I only post about once every 9 days. This is my 40th post since March 1 2011 (357 days). I don't usually post unless I have something to add to the conversation - something that hasn't already been said. I'm sure there are many others like me.

yeah, i think there a lot of people like you, the majority I would say.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #82 on:** February 20, 2012, 14:27 »

Quote from: leaf on February 20, 2012, 13:26

Quote from: LesHoward on February 20, 2012, 13:14
Quote from: michealo on February 20, 2012, 10:11
Could you hide the poll page from users with less than a certain amount of posts (say 50)?

I should clarify and say the poll input page

I can understand your reasoning behind that but I disagree. I read this forum nearly every day but, according to my stats, I only post about once every 9 days. This is my 40th post since March 1 2011 (357 days). I don't usually post unless I have something to add to the conversation - something that hasn't already been said. I'm sure there are many others like me.

yeah, i think there a lot of people like you, the majority I would say.

some not even logged in too

THP Creative · « **Reply #83 on:** February 20, 2012, 17:22 »

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Quote from: lagereek on Today at 12:03
DP, is great, Bigstock thanks to the bridge is also great. Without the bridge however you might just drown.

DepositPhotos is better for me than Bigstock, but really, 12.7 and 11.8 where they both currently sit are pretty close.

Wow, that still amazes me. I have a slightly larger port at BigStock than I do at SS (only just), but BS is lucky to earn me a few bucks a month! It's probably in my bottom 3 or 4 and has been since I joined them couple of years ago.

Its incredible really how different agencies suit different contributors work so significantly.

leaf · « **Reply #84 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:32 »

things should still be working fine - let me know if you are having problems with the new system. I'll get the arrows working again soon.

lisafx · « **Reply #85 on:** March 02, 2012, 15:35 »

The new system is great, Tyler. Looking forward to those arrows coming back too

traveler1116 · « **Reply #86 on:** March 02, 2012, 15:45 »

Still no iStock exclusive, should we even vote?

Opla · « **Reply #87 on:** March 02, 2012, 15:55 »

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 02, 2012, 15:45

Still no iStock exclusive, should we even vote?

No use, is there?

leaf · « **Reply #88 on:** March 02, 2012, 16:37 »

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 02, 2012, 15:45

Still no iStock exclusive, should we even vote?

I have the istock exclusives automatically sorted out, so just give iStock your vote and the poll will take care of the rest. Obviously there is no comparison because iStock exclusives are alone, but it might be interesting for up and down month comparisons.. I'll display the different results when I figure out the best way to do so (probably when I added the arrows again)

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #89 on:** March 03, 2012, 04:02 »

The new system seems good. I wasn't a big fan of the old system, as some agencies appeared more lucrative than they are. This I think, more accurately represents the earning potentials at agencies. Of course it's still dependent on everyone answering accurately, but so are all polls. Cheers.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #90 on:** March 03, 2012, 17:05 »

Quote from: leaf on March 02, 2012, 16:37

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 02, 2012, 15:45
Still no iStock exclusive, should we even vote?

I have the istock exclusives automatically sorted out, so just give iStock your vote and the poll will take care of the rest. Obviously there is no comparison because iStock exclusives are alone, but it might be interesting for up and down month comparisons.. I'll display the different results when I figure out the best way to do so (probably when I added the arrows again)

Nice, it does make a difference more than anywhere else where they may be exclusives or exclusive images.

Once the exclusives get separated from the rest of the herd, it's going to be interesting to see how much Indys make on IS compared to the next few.

wordplanet · « **Reply #91 on:** April 05, 2012, 15:13 »

Hi:
I know I'm getting in on this conversation late - I couldn't vote in March but thought it was because I was busy and didn't try to get on here and vote until around the 8th.
The new percentage explanation is helpful. If I'm only going to make 5 or 10% of what I make on SS, then for me it's not worth the time until I have a much larger portfolio.
I was surprised to see fotolia ahead of dreamstime too.

I only have 34 photos on iStock, but realized that my return per photo has increased there (I'm also getting everything I upload there accepted these days - whereas after probably about a year of no rejections on shutterstock my acceptance rate has plummeted - too bad, I got a raise there a while ago and hit 900 downloads on April 1 - pretty decent with 120 files, but I'd like to have 1000 files there). I decided to keep uploading to IS because of its rank here, and it outperformed dreamstime for me in March, which was a BME for me across several sites, so thanks for that. April took a dive from March, though personal sales were up.

It would be great to include Alamy too. Just be sure people realize they should include their net gain and not the gross amount as that will certainly skew things. I think of Alamy as a sometimes full-priced site (I have months where I make a few $10 or less sales there, for a lower return than @ the micros, and other months where photos are licensed for over $200 each, netting me a nice sum per image), so I think it would be instructive to see how this alternatingly high/low earning site averages out for people.

I make sales from my own site too, but they are definitely not micro, so I'm not sure that a button for that makes sense. Just MHO.

It would really be helpful if we could vote according to our return per image ( $ earned ÷ #of photos online ) and I'd be happy to type in the exact amount rather than hit the radio buttons. For those small fry like me who might make only $41 one month at a certain site, I know I'd rather put in the actual amount than put in $25. I restrain myself but the temptation is there to click on $50 instead. Is there a way to set up two columns per site - $ earned and # photos online?

Also think it's a great idea to remove iStock exclusive to a separate column, so it doesn't skew results and also that someone in a position to go exclusive with them can gauge whether it's worth giving up income from the other sites.

Anyhow, thanks for all your hard work on this.

cascoly · « **Reply #92 on:** April 05, 2012, 17:40 »

i'd stopped paying attention to the poll, so missed the changes announced -- the new system makes a lot more sense and reflects a truer result; also like the ability to distinguish between $0 earnings and no vote

Microbius · « **Reply #93 on:** April 06, 2012, 01:09 »

For those who contribute to IStock. How does anyone fill this in so early in the month when we haven't had Thinkstock earnings yet so can't report IS accurately? I started filling it in and abandoned it when I realized.

monti · « **Reply #94 on:** August 09, 2012, 08:22 »

So when the new version of promised poll is going to be displayed? ... I wonder
Would love to see the statistics...

RacePhoto · « **Reply #95 on:** August 09, 2012, 19:54 »

Quote from: Microbius on April 06, 2012, 01:09

For those who contribute to IStock. How does anyone fill this in so early in the month when we haven't had Thinkstock earnings yet so can't report IS accurately? I started filling it in and abandoned it when I realized.

I've asked the same question and it appears they use last month ThinkStock for this month or something voodoo? I'm a bit thick about how to answer a poll on the 6th when I don't get the numbers until the 15th. Maybe they know a good psychic?

I've pretty much stopped taking the poll. That should be good for raising the numbers for all the sites. LOL

traveler1116 · « **Reply #96 on:** August 09, 2012, 20:03 »

I've stopped as well, no point as an exclusive.

Microbius · « **Reply #97 on:** August 10, 2012, 08:04 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on August 09, 2012, 19:54

Quote from: Microbius on April 06, 2012, 01:09
For those who contribute to IStock. How does anyone fill this in so early in the month when we haven't had Thinkstock earnings yet so can't report IS accurately? I started filling it in and abandoned it when I realized.

I've asked the same question and it appears they use last month ThinkStock for this month or something voodoo? I'm a bit thick about how to answer a poll on the 6th when I don't get the numbers until the 15th. Maybe they know a good psychic?

I've pretty much stopped taking the poll. That should be good for raising the numbers for all the sites. LOL

Nice to know I'm not the only one that was confused!

leaf · « **Reply #98 on:** August 10, 2012, 11:22 »

I haven't forgotten about the stats.. just delayed. it's coming.. it's coming.. I promise.

About voting - you can time your vote how you please but for me, this is how I do it.

When submitting a vote for, say iStock, i just look at how much money was in my account at the end of the month and use that amount... regardless of which month the images were actually sold in - so yes, technically for my July numbers, I was using the June thinkstock earnings, but as far as I'm concerned, since my June thinkstock earnings were put in my account in July, I made that money in July. I think complicating the matter further is just picking at straws.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #99 on:** August 15, 2012, 00:12 »

Quote from: leaf on August 10, 2012, 11:22

I haven't forgotten about the stats.. just delayed. it's coming.. it's coming.. I promise.

About voting - you can time your vote how you please but for me, this is how I do it.

When submitting a vote for, say iStock, i just look at how much money was in my account at the end of the month and use that amount... regardless of which month the images were actually sold in - so yes, technically for my July numbers, I was using the June thinkstock earnings, but as far as I'm concerned, since my June thinkstock earnings were put in my account in July, I made that money in July. I think complicating the matter further is just picking at straws.

Good way of viewing it. Money earned in the past month with the carry-over, being current as you view it, is pretty simple. Just earnings for the previous month, regardless of when they sold, why or how they got there. That IS easy!

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