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« on: March 16, 2015, 23:36 »
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Hello everyone,

I'm Jojo Wang from SuperImageMarket. Superimagemarket.com is an open market for digital imagery trading. We offer a method to find licensed image by random images. It is an innovation of searching technology on stock images websites. Designers can find any images similar to the image they search by. So every photo gets equal chance to be sold well, even a new-uploaded image. It is a fair play to every contributor.  And it will simplify all the work flow of design and increase the sale of creatives significantly.

SuperImageMarket.com gives 80% (100% in 2015) of each sale to contributors. We encourage contributors to promote their creatives by themselves. The contributors could set price for their images, participate in every single business and appear directly in the contract as the authorized party, which means contributors could own an online shop to sell their images.

To simplify the workflow, contributors could upload imges by FTP, and we will read IPTC metadata from images automatically. Then contributors could log in to edit and submit images by batch. Do not forget to set prices for images when you are editing images.

Here is an introduce video about us.



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We have another tool to help customers find images. You can find it by the following link:
http://discover.superimagemarket.com

Discover is an online licensed images searching engine. Every one could find a licensed images by random images.
Designers, marketers and editors explore all kinds of websites for inspiration, such as google, facebook, twitter, tumblr, pinterest. And they can just download a small image, drag and drop it onto the page of DISCOVER, then it will provide the same or the similar images in seconds through our advanced image searching technology, and all the results images are could be licensed.

Or you can install discover plugin for web browsers. After installing the plugin, there will be a little icon shown on the top-left conner of every images once the mouse arrow hovering them.  By clicking the icon on the image, Discover will find the same or similar licensed images in its database. Choose an image and click it, and you will find the stock images agencies in an new page.

If you find a great image on a stock images agency which price is too high, you can search it with Discover, and you may find many similar images but with a much lower price.
So, using Discover could help you to save time and money by searching licensed images with random images.

Here is an introduce video about Discover.


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Currently, we're filling SIM with images, we sincerely invite you to join us. And we're speeding up improvements in site performance and uploading experience, I'd like to hear your opinion about us, if you've got any questions or feedback, please feel free to post in this thread or contact us on email: contributor@superimagemarket.com. Your voice is always valued andwelcome. Thanks.

Best,
Jojo


« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 00:00 »
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The web design and English need some work.  The interface feels a bit dated.  I only see two contributors - Bestviewstock with over 100k and Viewstock with 50k.  Both Chinese factories.  So, you're not really going to gain an audience with that kind of content.

The Discover function actually works pretty well.  It couldn't find the images I was looking for, but it managed to figure out that a clown fish was a clown fish and gave me back images of clown fish.  Same for roller skates.

« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 01:00 »
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The web design and English need some work.  The interface feels a bit dated.  I only see two contributors - Bestviewstock with over 100k and Viewstock with 50k.  Both Chinese factories.  So, you're not really going to gain an audience with that kind of content.

The Discover function actually works pretty well.  It couldn't find the images I was looking for, but it managed to figure out that a clown fish was a clown fish and gave me back images of clown fish.  Same for roller skates.

Thank you for your focus on SIM. We are a newly established company, the content is not too much at this time, we come here with the hope that more excellent photographers could join us. We have saw your images before, they are good and really suitable for the demand of the market, we sincerely invite you to join us. Thanks.

« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2015, 01:46 »
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The web design and English need some work.  The interface feels a bit dated.  I only see two contributors - Bestviewstock with over 100k and Viewstock with 50k.  Both Chinese factories.  So, you're not really going to gain an audience with that kind of content.

The Discover function actually works pretty well.  It couldn't find the images I was looking for, but it managed to figure out that a clown fish was a clown fish and gave me back images of clown fish.  Same for roller skates.

The English is fine and totally understandable

« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2015, 03:10 »
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If you find a great image on a stock images agency which price is too high, you can search it with Discover, and you may find many similar images but with a much lower price.
So, using Discover could help you to save time and money by searching licensed images with random images.


If I understand correct, you help clients to find image as cheap as possible? That's great! For clients... Well, many PRO authors will be indignant with your tool as they (we) try to sell for higher than lower pricing. I mean helping find the cheapest image means less income for author - your tool works agains photographers. Am I correct thinking it works this way? I know my instinct may seem not nice but it tells me something smells bad here for my business.


From other thread:
... We don't want to see the price lower and lower. We try to change the rule. Profit-sharing mode is the most important thing to the relationship between contributor and image stock agency.

Hm... We (authors) don't want to see lower and lower prices too...


And now we have four threads on the forum :)

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no2
no3
This one is no4.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2015, 03:22 by Ariene »

« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2015, 03:55 »
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If you find a great image on a stock images agency which price is too high, you can search it with Discover, and you may find many similar images but with a much lower price.
So, using Discover could help you to save time and money by searching licensed images with random images.


If I understand correct, you help clients to find image as cheap as possible? That's great! For clients... Well, many PRO authors will be indignant with your tool as they (we) try to sell for higher than lower pricing. I mean helping find the cheapest image means less income for author - your tool works agains photographers. Am I correct thinking it works this way? I know my instinct may seem not nice but it tells me something smells bad here for my business.


From other thread:
... We don't want to see the price lower and lower. We try to change the rule. Profit-sharing mode is the most important thing to the relationship between contributor and image stock agency.

Hm... We (authors) don't want to see lower and lower prices too...


And now we have four threads on the forum :)

no1
no2
no3
This one is no4.


Thank you for your focus on SIM.
Discover always gives the image buyers the most similar ones, the similarity is the only factor that determines the results, not the price. We believe this is very equal for every image, also for every contributor. But yes, different image have different price, as a contributor you could set price on SIM, you could set a lower price, cause we all know small profits and quick return, while you could also set a higher price for you images which you think are really good ones. On the other hand, the image buyers have the right to choose the images they want, they may take composition, price and other elements into consideration, but that's market. What we want to build is a fair and free market for both of contributors and the image buyers.
Hope this could help to settle your doubts. Thanks.

« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 05:47 »
+2
The search is an interesting concept
The royalties are good

Regarding search , if for instance an image sells, does that qualify it to rank higher in the search?
And what about deleting images, is it possible to completely remove images from the database, and how quickly can it be done?
And what about licensing? Are there different licenses for different uses or is it one licence for all?
The only other concern is POD print on demand of it is allowed?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2015, 05:51 by noodle »

« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 07:40 »
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The search is an interesting concept
The royalties are good

Regarding search , if for instance an image sells, does that qualify it to rank higher in the search?
And what about deleting images, is it possible to completely remove images from the database, and how quickly can it be done?
And what about licensing? Are there different licenses for different uses or is it one licence for all?
The only other concern is POD print on demand of it is allowed?


If the image buyer using search by image, the results is only depend on the similarity, which means the more your image is similar to the searched one, the higher rank your image will have.If the image buyer using search by keywords, then the results will depend on the sales, user's favorites and other elements, of course, the more your images be sold, the higher rank your images will have.

Yes, you can delete any image at anytime you want, but usually, we will give the image another 30 days because some image buyers may already have put the image into their shopping cart. After 30 days, the image will be completely removed from our database.

SIM have two kinds of image license, RF and RL, RF is royalty free images as we all know, RL imgae is rights limited images(generally speaking, the RL images are the images which do not have the model release or the property release ), which could only be used in editorial usage. For the RF images, image buyers could purchase the standard licence and also the extended licence,while the RL image could only be used in editorial. Both price of standard licence and extended licence are set by contributors when they upload images.

Please feel free to contace me if you have any detail quetions.
Thanks.

Shelma1

« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 08:10 »
+1
The web design and English need some work.  The interface feels a bit dated.  I only see two contributors - Bestviewstock with over 100k and Viewstock with 50k.  Both Chinese factories.  So, you're not really going to gain an audience with that kind of content.

The Discover function actually works pretty well.  It couldn't find the images I was looking for, but it managed to figure out that a clown fish was a clown fish and gave me back images of clown fish.  Same for roller skates.

I agree...things need to be rewritten by a native English speaker, and the video needs a native-English-speaking VO. Also, the photos you're choosing as the background images behind the search box are too busy. It makes it difficult to see the search box. "About us" is written to contributors, which would be odd for a buyer to read. I suggest separate paths for buyers and contributors. I think the site still needs a bit of work.

But I do like the 80% idea a lot. :)

« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 09:03 »
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The search is an interesting concept
The royalties are good

Regarding search , if for instance an image sells, does that qualify it to rank higher in the search?
And what about deleting images, is it possible to completely remove images from the database, and how quickly can it be done?
And what about licensing? Are there different licenses for different uses or is it one licence for all?
The only other concern is POD print on demand of it is allowed?

And yes, POD print is allowed, but if the image buyers using the image on resale products usage, they have to purchase the extended licence.

« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 09:10 »
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The web design and English need some work.  The interface feels a bit dated.  I only see two contributors - Bestviewstock with over 100k and Viewstock with 50k.  Both Chinese factories.  So, you're not really going to gain an audience with that kind of content.

The Discover function actually works pretty well.  It couldn't find the images I was looking for, but it managed to figure out that a clown fish was a clown fish and gave me back images of clown fish.  Same for roller skates.

I agree...things need to be rewritten by a native English speaker, and the video needs a native-English-speaking VO. Also, the photos you're choosing as the background images behind the search box are too busy. It makes it difficult to see the search box. "About us" is written to contributors, which would be odd for a buyer to read. I suggest separate paths for buyers and contributors. I think the site still needs a bit of work.

But I do like the 80% idea a lot. :)

Thank you very very much for your valued suggestions, we will keep them in mind and do some modifications in these days.

Join us if you like the idea.  Thanks in advance. :)

« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2015, 09:28 »
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Jojo, can you tell please where and how can I change the pricing for already uploaded images? I feel like there's no that option at all after it was chosen once... :(

« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2015, 09:51 »
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It is only for photos? There is no place for illustrators and vector illustrators?

« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2015, 10:04 »
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Jojo, can you tell please where and how can I change the pricing for already uploaded images? I feel like there's no that option at all after it was chosen once... :(

Sorry for the inconvenient on this matter, please follow the following steps:Upload images>organise images>edit images>choose the image(s)> find the Price option which just below the image (please find the attached image)>choose the price you want> done!

« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2015, 10:09 »
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It is only for photos? There is no place for illustrators and vector illustrators?

Sorry to say, yes, we only accept photos at this time, the illustrations are accepted but sold as photos, we are plan to receive more kinds of content in the future. Thank you for your focus on SIM.

« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2015, 10:11 »
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Jojo, can you tell please where and how can I change the pricing for already uploaded images? I feel like there's no that option at all after it was chosen once... :(

For further detailed help, please feel free to mail me at jojo.wang@superimagemarket.com :)

« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2015, 12:37 »
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The English is fine and totally understandable


I don't think so. From the FAQ:

"What can I do if I purchased the pirated image(s)?

SIM do a lot of job on copyright protecting, but no method is 100% secure. Therefore, while we strive to protect your rights, we cannot guarantee all the images copyright are absolute security.
If you believe that any Images you purchased from SIM website infringes upon any copyright, you may complain the Images Contributor by click Complain on Orders & Downloads sections. SIM will terminate the Contributors account who infringes the copyrights of any third party.
You are recommended to contact the Contributor directly for such infringement; you can get the personal contact information on the home page of the contributor, including the name, address, telephone number, and email address. If you need any detailed information during the judicial proceedings or arbitrations, we can assist you in court proceedings by providing the copy of the Contributors passport or the copy of the agencys Certificate of Incorporation so long as we received the requirement notice from the court."

So in addition to the broken English, there is the issue of them providing full contact information for the contributor to a buyer, which I'd have a problem with.

There is a separate issue with the site not noted in any of the earlier threads - RF images with people without a model release. See these examples:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx003247
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx006339
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx007437

Without a model release these should be sold with an editorial license (they have a RL license supposedly for that purpose) and I can't see why they say "Not required" for model release. Same for property releases:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001cw001760

The spam keywords on this image (tourism? traffic? panorama? construction?) are pretty bad

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093

And pricing is all over the map, for no obvious reasons. High:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001cw001729

Low:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093

And above all, I still don't see anything written about a plan for bringing in buyers - why will they come here versus go to Shutterstock?

« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2015, 13:38 »
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Thanks Jojo for the steps but "edition" is not working, I can't see any of my images to choose them. I can see clear white space between menu above and instructions down the page.

And yes, I admit that the pricing on the site is crazy and complicated/entangled...

« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2015, 21:29 »
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Thanks Jojo for the steps but "edition" is not working, I can't see any of my images to choose them. I can see clear white space between menu above and instructions down the page.

And yes, I admit that the pricing on the site is crazy and complicated/entangled...

I see, if you want to modify the price of online images, please follow these steps: upload images>organise images>image online>click the edit which on lower right of the image>then you could modity the price in image edit page
I hope it's works this time.

About the price, the contributor is the only person to set the price, maybe you find some normal images with a higher price, while some excellent images with a lower price, but all these are decided by contributors, we believe they will choose the right price with the development of the market.

Thanks.

« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2015, 21:49 »
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The English is fine and totally understandable


I don't think so. From the FAQ:

"What can I do if I purchased the pirated image(s)?

SIM do a lot of job on copyright protecting, but no method is 100% secure. Therefore, while we strive to protect your rights, we cannot guarantee all the images copyright are absolute security.
If you believe that any Images you purchased from SIM website infringes upon any copyright, you may complain the Images Contributor by click Complain on Orders & Downloads sections. SIM will terminate the Contributors account who infringes the copyrights of any third party.
You are recommended to contact the Contributor directly for such infringement; you can get the personal contact information on the home page of the contributor, including the name, address, telephone number, and email address. If you need any detailed information during the judicial proceedings or arbitrations, we can assist you in court proceedings by providing the copy of the Contributors passport or the copy of the agencys Certificate of Incorporation so long as we received the requirement notice from the court."

So in addition to the broken English, there is the issue of them providing full contact information for the contributor to a buyer, which I'd have a problem with.

There is a separate issue with the site not noted in any of the earlier threads - RF images with people without a model release. See these examples:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx003247
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx006339
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001gx007437

Without a model release these should be sold with an editorial license (they have a RL license supposedly for that purpose) and I can't see why they say "Not required" for model release. Same for property releases:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001cw001760

The spam keywords on this image (tourism? traffic? panorama? construction?) are pretty bad

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093

And pricing is all over the map, for no obvious reasons. High:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093
http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001cw001729

Low:

http://www.superimagemarket.com/ImageDetail.aspx?ImgNum=001iz000093

And above all, I still don't see anything written about a plan for bringing in buyers - why will they come here versus go to Shutterstock?


Thank you for your focus on SIM, you are always here, so glad to hear from you.

About the model release and the property release, we already have found this problem, and we have modified our quality control process, but for the images which already online, it takes us some time to correct them.

About the keywords and the price, the contributor is the only one who edit and set them. We do promot contritors to manage and organise images by themselves, including the title, caption, keywords, relaese and other information, what we are doing is build a platform in where contributors could do theit own business, as the shopkeeper on SIM, they have the rights to manage their contents.

Shutterstock  is a long established company, they do very well and we could learn muych from them. But we believe that as the development of the market, image buyers should have more choice, and the photographers also need more opportunities.

Thanks

« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2015, 22:10 »
+2

From the FAQ:
"You are recommended to contact the Contributor directly for such infringement; you can get the personal contact information on the home page of the contributor, including the name, address, telephone number, and email address."

Wow, that's a dead end for me, and probably for most other contributors. No way.

« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 23:08 »
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From the FAQ:
"You are recommended to contact the Contributor directly for such infringement; you can get the personal contact information on the home page of the contributor, including the name, address, telephone number, and email address."

Wow, that's a dead end for me, and probably for most other contributors. No way.

Thank you for your focus on SIM. We viewed your image on Shutterstock and dreamstime, they are really good.
As the contributor, you could choose to open your information or keep them serect. So don't worry about that, you have the choice. But maybe some contributors want to open these information, canse it may help them to get some potential opportunities.

« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2015, 23:29 »
+1
"2.4 Under this contract you must:
  2.4.1 Be the Copyright owner of the Images or have authority from the Copyright owner to enter into the Contract. You must have a written agreement with each copyright holder of the Images if you are not the Copyright owner of the Images. Once we ensure your images have actual infringement of copyright, you will be fined $ 10,000 USD and deducted 50 points. When your account balance is greater than or equal to $ 10,000 USD, we will deduct the fine from your balance directly; if your account balance is less than $ 10,000 USD, you need to submit $ 10,000 USD within 3 days, otherwise, we will freeze your account, including your account balance."

« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2015, 01:34 »
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Nice day everyone, below is the link of our blog, there are some tutorial for contributors, if you have problems on image uploading or edit you could visit this site for help, if you couldn't find any useful answer for your questions, please feel free to contact me at jojo.wang@superimagemarket.com if I can provide further clarification or assistance.
Thanks.

Here is the blog link: http://blog.superimagemarket.com

« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2015, 04:21 »
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About the price, the contributor is the only person to set the price, maybe you find some normal images with a higher price, while some excellent images with a lower price, but all these are decided by contributors, we believe they will choose the right price with the development of the market.

Jojo, you give some options to choose column of pricing. It's not the same as choose price for every size handly. And for example, if I choose B2, C1 or C2 option/ column there's Extended license cheaper than the oryginal full res size. Is it correct? Why is that?  ???  C2 example, standard RF use is for original (full) size for 500$ and Ex.Lic. for 300$? I must miss something here.

About technical issue I'll be in email touch with Fredrick as got PM from him.


 

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