Author Topic: Symzio is now LIVE (Read 69323 times)

Leo · « **Reply #125 on:** February 23, 2016, 01:38 »

Quote from: goober on February 22, 2016, 22:52

What do you expect the Stock Inclusion Fee to be? That's fairly important knowledge to have before uploading hundreds of images.

SIF, brilliant!

Leo · « **Reply #126 on:** February 23, 2016, 02:10 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 22, 2016, 02:10

Quote from: Leo on February 21, 2016, 21:24
Quote from: Microstockphoto on January 03, 2016, 13:25
how many images and contributors does the agency have now?

google search: site:symzio.com/contributor-

Reveals 64, but there are a few duplicate URLs.

images: 30576
contributors: 30
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-1.html 2128
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10003.html 14
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10001.html 106
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10004.html 4260
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10011.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10009.html 70
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10012.html 633
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10014.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10019.html 84
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10023.html 2668
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10026.html 287
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10028.html 150
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16313.html 2008
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16318.html 41
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16312.html 5154
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16320.html 52
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16328.html 12
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16324.html 930
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16336.html 27
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16333.html 3921
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16341.html 4718
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16352.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16353.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16348.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16356.html 20
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16362.html 1280
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16363.html 331
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16364.html 514
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16376.html 342
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16370.html 826
images: 30576
contributors: 30

didnt expect it to be this low, thanks, no need to spend money and time on this

Just a thought -

In a nearly parallel earth ( watch this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3479316/ ) Symbiostock was invented before Shutterstock. Thousands upon thousands of people paid an SIF, and the marketing power could not be competed with. People with large portfolios with high-quality work voluntarily paid higher SIF's having a guarantee on proportional returns.

Then 8 years in some crazy microstocker came and created an agency that would be called Shutterstock, a fresh new idea of selling images in large amounts at 32 cents a piece. Original and amazing, but it could never gain traction because the market was already dominated by Symzios in a proverbial race-to-the-top aided by an unstoppable conglomerate of networked independent sites.

We, however, are living in a very disjointed sad version of earth where it is not uncommon to see the strangest of all paradoxes, a Starbucks across from a Starbucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGUYeiGtNk

sharpshot · « **Reply #127 on:** February 23, 2016, 05:00 »

In that parallel world, Getty buy Symzios and their all screwed as well

goober · « **Reply #128 on:** February 23, 2016, 20:21 »

In the real world everyone goes to the large hardware stores because they know there will be a range of products to chose from that will suit their needs.

People in specialised industries go to specialised outlets for their needs.

Most people avoid the local hardware because they only have two items in anyone category and the brand is some name you've never heard of.

goober · « **Reply #129 on:** February 23, 2016, 20:32 »

Quote from: Leo on February 23, 2016, 01:38

Quote from: goober on February 22, 2016, 22:52
What do you expect the Stock Inclusion Fee to be? That's fairly important knowledge to have before uploading hundreds of images.

SIF, brilliant!

It doesn't make sense to charge a SIF when they get 30% on each sale.

Leo · « **Reply #130 on:** February 24, 2016, 01:16 »

Quote from: goober on February 23, 2016, 20:32

Quote from: Leo on February 23, 2016, 01:38
Quote from: goober on February 22, 2016, 22:52
What do you expect the Stock Inclusion Fee to be? That's fairly important knowledge to have before uploading hundreds of images.

SIF, brilliant!

It doesn't make sense to charge a SIF when they get 30% on each sale.

It doesn't make sense based on what we know. It doesn't make sense to drive on the left side of the road where I am at.

I find that this subject is even talked about very fascinating. I think its a natural phenomenon at work, like an economic sunrise and sunset if you will. See attached chart.

I of course wouldn't touch this model with a ten foot pole but still its very interesting to witness. We can expect more stuff like this as time goes on. There is no choice.

Leo · « **Reply #131 on:** February 24, 2016, 01:35 »

^^^ Point being, a vacuum forms. A state perfectly un-ideal. By natures design something has to change.

Someone must do something stupid.
or someone must do something intelligent.
or someone acts in panic.
or someone acts at the time planned.
or a revolution.
or an evolution.

...doesn't matter what.

Any one of these could start something...it doesn't matter what. The forest is completely dry now -- the perfect time for even a small flame... get what I'm saying?

Even in the seeming foolishness and chaos there is a degree of sensibility and order.

The state of the market is perfect for positive change, because as they say, it can't get worse. Can someone prove me wrong?

[*edited for spelling.]

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #132 on:** February 24, 2016, 02:00 »

theres one problem with your theory though. the forest aint dry its soaking wet

skyfish · « **Reply #133 on:** February 24, 2016, 02:04 »

Leo, same processes in real life photography services. We have more requests for free work than normal clients orders. People which have all necessary for life from the state or some commercials, demand other services to be provided for free. But to provide services, normal business should pay!

Leo · « **Reply #134 on:** February 24, 2016, 02:26 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 24, 2016, 02:00

theres one problem with your theory though. the forest aint dry its soaking wet

Its possible.

You might be an exceptional-top-quality-producer, in which case that is true for you. But for many it is not.

Unfortunately if you don't have exceptional work, one is forced to try other things at this time and take risks they wouldn't otherwise, which is why you see 30 contributors instead of say, 2 or 3.

Leo · « **Reply #135 on:** February 24, 2016, 02:30 »

Quote from: skyfish on February 24, 2016, 02:04

Leo, same processes in real life photography services. We have more requests for free work than normal clients orders. People which have all necessary for life from the state or some commercials, demand other services to be provided for free. But to provide services, normal business should pay!

I'm always amazed how that works. I still don't understand it.

skyfish · « **Reply #136 on:** February 24, 2016, 04:02 »

Yes, business - normal one - should be registered and pay to state taxes, social security etc. everybody can continue this list. People, receiving an excursion for free from one company, often tell me why we take money? (photosession on streets for tourists and businesses). And last week we had 4 demands for photography and video of wedding, 6-12 hours on place, for 150-250 eur. and even for free. That could not cover travel and other costs of course and was refused. The last ones explained, that they already paid a lot for registration, for dresses and restaurant. I said i am not related to those, they told they will find a photographer which will understand them.

Leo · « **Reply #137 on:** February 24, 2016, 04:44 »

Quote from: skyfish on February 24, 2016, 04:02

Yes, business - normal one - should be registered and pay to state taxes, social security etc. everybody can continue this list. People, receiving an excursion for free from one company, often tell me why we take money? (photosession on streets for tourists and businesses). And last week we had 4 demands for photography and video of wedding, 6-12 hours on place, for 150-250 eur. and even for free. That could not cover travel and other costs of course and was refused. The last ones explained, that they already paid a lot for registration, for dresses and restaurant. I said i am not related to those, they told they will find a photographer which will understand them.

How exactly does one say "can you do this for free?" Do they build it up slowly or just ask outright?

Side note, doing my final assessment of Symzio, such things are probably soon to end... I saw this article on their site, The Prophetic Symzio: http://www.symbiostock.org/forums/topic/the-prophetic-symzio/ With this guru-style spiritual successor of microstock, I don't think there is much to worry about.

It was nice revisiting this little arena again. Can someone add my activity to the "How have you promoted Symzio today?" thread? http://www.symbiostock.org/forums/topic/dec-182015-what-have-you-done-to-promote-symzio-today/

Over and out.

skyfish · « **Reply #138 on:** February 24, 2016, 05:18 »

Conversations were usual - they visited website, they told that they liked fresh colors etc etc, then most of them stated that they already know pricing for this market in Belgium and big amount of photogs available. Some of them returned 2-3 times for telling that everybody for them will give all photos taken, all retouched etc. Once a couple wanted an album printed, delivered to their address included in demanded price. Crazy list can be continued, like mails from a british couple, that for reconstruction of wedding they are ready to pay a good price 150 eur and we have to provide a dress, borrowed in shop by us, not them. Lol. One can be tired with examples, i stop :-)

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #139 on:** February 24, 2016, 05:34 »

Quote from: goober on February 23, 2016, 20:21

In the real world everyone goes to the large hardware stores because they know there will be a range of products to chose from that will suit their needs.

People in specialised industries go to specialised outlets for their needs.

Most people avoid the local hardware because they only have two items in anyone category and the brand is some name you've never heard of.

well said!

goober · « **Reply #140 on:** February 24, 2016, 20:13 »

Quote from: Leo on February 24, 2016, 01:16

Quote from: goober on February 23, 2016, 20:32
Quote from: Leo on February 23, 2016, 01:38
Quote from: goober on February 22, 2016, 22:52
What do you expect the Stock Inclusion Fee to be? That's fairly important knowledge to have before uploading hundreds of images.

SIF, brilliant!

It doesn't make sense to charge a SIF when they get 30% on each sale.

It doesn't make sense based on what we know. It doesn't make sense to drive on the left side of the road where I am at.

I find that this subject is even talked about very fascinating. I think its a natural phenomenon at work, like an economic sunrise and sunset if you will. See attached chart.

I of course wouldn't touch this model with a ten foot pole but still its very interesting to witness. We can expect more stuff like this as time goes on. There is no choice.

Sorry, I don't get it. Why is there an upward swing to ideal if the contributors are now at war?

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