This is called SCAM or FRAUD , in spanish ESTAFA

More than 23 dollars to fotolia...

Less than 2 for contribuitor...

Huge increse...?   or end of the SCAM?

I really wondered, when will Fotolia next lower my commission, or do a subscription where I get less (as they did the last years regularly). And there it is. And they didn't even told me a word.

Thanks to some blogs I found out...and finally there is a way out of this what I did just this night. Complete joke, a way to sell a picture for 1 Dollar...and they call it subscription (which it really isn't).

But - Fotolia will find a new way to lower our share...sooner or later. I lost my trust in this agency long time ago. After the third lowering of the commissions and changes of the terms against us. I f you tell them, what you think, they ban you from the forum, they don't answer messages properly (only standard answers, not really what I ask)...great partner.

Got a 1.20 credits commission on an XXL sub sale. I'm opted out of DPC, so the buyer must have paid 6 credits for my image.

Previously I would have gotten 0.29 credits for the same sale -> 4.83% commission.. what a scam 

I think this announcement has officially backfired.

Quote from: Shelma1 on May 17, 2014, 16:49
I think this announcement has officially backfired.

I've had 52 sales since the announcement and the "huge increase in subscription commissions" has so far totalled ... 41c.

Wowee! I'm just so happy.

I meant to post this graph in this thread, but put it in the main Dollar Photo Club one instead. Here is the link to the full post.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-(deactivation-day)-may-1/msg380004/#msg380004


Sorry... Steve

Quote from: steheap on May 17, 2014, 17:28
I meant to post this graph in this thread, but put it in the main Dollar Photo Club one instead. Here is the link to the full post.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-(deactivation-day)-may-1/msg380004/#msg380004


Sorry... Steve

unless you're a down hill skier this isn't a good graph   

Quote from: Goofy on May 17, 2014, 18:26
unless you're a down hill skier this isn't a good graph   

And if you are a downhill skier, those are awfully spiky moguls

Seeing and increase in subs volumes, no increase in commissions - can't say yet if I'm getting subs instead of credit sales or at the expense of sales on other sites

Quote from: heywoody on May 17, 2014, 22:45
Seeing and increase in subs volumes, no increase in commissions - can't say yet if I'm getting subs instead of credit sales or at the expense of sales on other sites

I've noticed the increased percentage of sub sales too. (I'm opted out of DPC)

Quote from: steheap on May 17, 2014, 17:28
I meant to post this graph in this thread, but put it in the main Dollar Photo Club one instead. Here is the link to the full post.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-(deactivation-day)-may-1/msg380004/#msg380004


Sorry... Steve

Curiously similar graphs

Is that last graph a return per image counting your total number of submitted images as the source? I have almost 6000 images on some sites and just less than 3000 on Fotolia - hence my graph should be halved if you count the earnings per image I have taken and submitted to them. My graph shows the images they have selected (which you would expect to be the best (in their view)) and even with that it is a really poor performance.

Steve

  It's fascinating how Fotolia seems to bring out such revulsion and disgust whenever they do anything. Seven quick pages of hooting laughter on this thread, and 50 pages of determined anger at the other thread. They have spent so many years saying one thing and doing another, always finding a way to chisel a little more away from their contributors, that there is literally no one left who will say anything nice about them. Except, of course, Matt, who always seems to be seeing a brighter day at FT.
  Get me whatever he's drinking!

Any site or business that can't make a go of it on a 50/50 Split with their suppliers shouldn't be in business. especially since they really don't produce anything or own anything except rented servers and some furniture. They wanna sell my work for a dollar. Fine, Gimmie 50 Cents per DL and I'll Opt back in without the stupid Levels of emerald and diamond crap. And Im sure everyone else will also.

Quote from: Rinderart on May 18, 2014, 01:41
Any site or business that can't make a go of it on a 50/50 Split with their suppliers shouldn't be in business. especially since they really don't produce anything or own anything except rented servers and some furniture. They wanna sell my work for a dollar. Fine, Gimmie 50 Cents per DL and I'll Opt back in without the stupid Levels of emerald and diamond crap. And Im sure everyone else will also.

Well stated Lauren.

I had 2 subs sales yesterday, still at the same amount as normal, ugh, makes me sick. I haven't given them anything new since this DPC thing started. where is the increase??

Quote from: gillian on May 18, 2014, 02:47
I had 2 subs sales yesterday, still at the same amount as normal, ugh, makes me sick. I haven't given them anything new since this DPC thing started. where is the increase??

Its only for the subscription monthly packs. Not the normal subscription, whatever that means. So only a few types of subs are affected. Its all more smoke and mirrors. I was happy about the announcement at first, but its just a cat in a bag.

Quote from: steheap on May 17, 2014, 17:28
I meant to post this graph in this thread, but put it in the main Dollar Photo Club one instead. Here is the link to the full post.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-(deactivation-day)-may-1/msg380004/#msg380004


Sorry... Steve

Looks like the climatic change before the last ice age

Quote from: steheap on May 17, 2014, 23:49
Is that last graph a return per image counting your total number of submitted images as the source? I have almost 6000 images on some sites and just less than 3000 on Fotolia - hence my graph should be halved if you count the earnings per image I have taken and submitted to them. My graph shows the images they have selected (which you would expect to be the best (in their view)) and even with that it is a really poor performance.

Steve

Much smaller port but, yes, the graph is based on number of images on line in a given month - the real drop is from the price changes sometime ago.

I haven't finished coding the IS extract yet but that will show a much much bigger drop.

My son finished a unit in school about the European Middle Ages. What you wrote reminds me of the feudal system. We are the serfs. Fotolia and the agencies (big ones) are the lords. 

Quote from: MxR on May 17, 2014, 11:58
This is called SCAM or FRAUD , in spanish ESTAFA

More than 23 dollars to fotolia...

Less than 2 for contribuitor...

Huge increse...?   or end of the SCAM?

Except that we own our images and can walk whenever we see fit

Problem is walking cuts income in most cases, hence the willing participation in things that are less than ideal