All the stuff I get in re CC is about how great it is for teams. It would be odd if they bottlenecked the much-lauded ease of team use.

Jo Ann, If everyone is a little like me, they are also getting very tired of Abobe's greed factor WRT to their CC garbage. Every new upgrade comes with its own set of problems and the only thing I see now is have to deal with them on more regular basis. It's about tying people into the whole system they have developed and if it means giving away mustard on Aisle 3 so you buy the expensive beef, so be it.

Eventually the stock sites will put themselves out of business if they keep heading in this direction. Once people can no longer make money creating stock images the supply will dry up.

Sums up exactly what I think. They all need to realise at some stage that the part of the equation that is the contributor is just as important to them as the end buyer.
No sale without something there to buy.
 

It would be nice, to make some kind of protest. Like all contributors stop uploading for two weeks for example. But I know this is illusion.

There's no need for a protest, as returns dwindle motivation for producing and uploading will evaporate, supply starts to dry up anyway. It will take years for it play out fully but the trend is real, I don't see many people cheering thumping returns from their ports.

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Eventually the stock sites willbie themselves out of business if they keep heading in this direction. Once people can no longer make money creating stock images the supply will dry up.

Sums up exactly what I think. They all need to realise at some stage that the part of the equation that is the contributor is just as important to them as the end buyer.
No sale without something there to buy.
 

I think this is already happening.  Maybe not enough that they notice yet.  The bunches of new bies, or former exclusives uploading large ports disguise the fact that the big sellers aren't producing so much, and def not the HCV  images they were uploading a few years ago.  I hardly bother to upload anymore, and many of the top ports I notice are not producing as much quality or volume as back in 2010-2013.  If buyers want the best quality images they are better off looking for the ones from a couple years back.  Or on RM sites which is where the top talent are putting there best work.

My RM licenses via my own site and via Alamy and some small boutique sites are on an upswing lately as are RF images from those same sites that are not available via the micros. I don't think they are dead and in fact they are probably going to grow in importance for those businesses, publications and websites that need more unique content. I think the stock world will continue to have room for both kinds of images.

Many customers search the micros first for less expensive content, then opt for pricier content if they can't find what they need. If photographers put their higher value/rarer images on the higher priced sites, this will continue, and it seems that many people here are doing just that. Adobe Stock may make the less expensive content easier to source, but designers working for discriminating clients may still need to look elsewhere for certain content, and popping in a photograph or graphic sourced outside the Creative Cloud software isn't really that difficult. Agencies such as Alamy are already using enterprise software to allow their large clients to share images purchased by the organization among its employees and keep track of whether they are RM or RF, etc. so Adobe is following suit, albeit right within the design apps themselves. At some point, clients will not want the exact same image that so many of their competitors have used and they will opt for RM. RM has its place and isn't disappearing. 

My RM licenses via my own site and via Alamy and some small boutique sites are on an upswing lately as are RF images from those same sites that are not available via the micros. I don't think they are dead and in fact they are probably going to grow in importance for those businesses, publications and websites that need more unique content. I think the stock world will continue to have room for both kinds of images.

Many customers search the micros first for less expensive content, then opt for pricier content if they can't find what they need. If photographers put their higher value/rarer images on the higher priced sites, this will continue, and it seems that many people here are doing just that. Adobe Stock may make the less expensive content easier to source, but designers working for discriminating clients may still need to look elsewhere for certain content, and popping in a photograph or graphic sourced outside the Creative Cloud software isn't really that difficult. Agencies such as Alamy are already using enterprise software to allow their large clients to share images purchased by the organization among its employees and keep track of whether they are RM or RF, etc. so Adobe is following suit, albeit right within the design apps themselves. At some point, clients will not want the exact same image that so many of their competitors have used and they will opt for RM. RM has its place and isn't disappearing.

This sounds pretty well accurate to me.  And in addition to the RM agencies seeing a little more demand, specialist areas like Stocksy are flourishing.  In the recent interview with Lee Torrens, Stocksy's CEO said that their top photographers are making more than $100,000 a year.  Sounds like that's where all the Vetta customers went.

You really think that we did anything with boycott of DPC. DPC should have been opt out from the start. DPC is still working for FT. People still upload to horrible sites that abuse us or make no income. All the people who cheer for Adobe/FT are finding out the truth. CC will use you forever and you will say, maybe there is change. Micro will use you forever and you will say, there is hope in more places to upload.

Be a fool and believe that there is some future in Micro. There is nothing but despair and slave wage. Wake Up! Micro is dead for home business. Your cost and hours are more then your return wages.

I think there is a future for micro for the buyers. The market for lower priced images isn't going to go away. As far as a future for contributors, there will always be those contributors who say "well, making a penny per image is better than nothing." If there is demand, there will be supply. But you are right...there won't be any more "quitting my day job to do stock full time."

No surprise here, all the woo yaying drowned out the warnings I guess.  Hopefully this is the wake up call but my guess is people will complain that Shutterstock is doing something wrong instead.  Maybe they didn't advertise correctly, or the site is wonky, or they have bad management, or bad inspections when really the issue is another site giving away more rights for less price.