Quote from: Monty-m-gue on June 16, 2014, 22:09With DPC, Fotolia have effectively declared war on my business. They are not 'my agency' - they are my enemy.

For me they are just history...


And about clicking... do you know that FT will pay just once if you click? It doesn't matter if it's one or 100 clicks/ person (comp)... They pay only one time.

Unless you have different work office, VPN, tablet, smartphone, as long as you access from different IP addresses, you can contribute to their advertisement fund multiple times.

As some of you will remember, some times ago I have written to different Photographers Associations.
Some of them answered me.

Here is the last answer from one of the most important one in France:

« J'accuse bonne réception de votre courriel et le transfère aussitôt à notre service juridique.
L'UPP mène de nombreuses actions contre les microstocks

Cordialement,
[...] »

"I acknowledge receipt of your email and immediately transferred to our legal department.
The UPP leads many actions against the microstocks

Regards,
[...]"

Another little step

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on June 17, 2014, 09:20
As some of you will remember, some times ago I have written to different Photographers Associations.
Some of them answered me.

Here is the last answer from one of the most important one in France:

« J'accuse bonne réception de votre courriel et le transfère aussitôt à notre service juridique.
L'UPP mène de nombreuses actions contre les microstocks

Cordialement,
[...] »

"I acknowledge receipt of your email and immediately transferred to our legal department.
The UPP leads many actions against the microstocks

Regards,
[...]"

Another little step

Way to go, Beppe. Stick it to them.

Instead of uselessly clicking their ad links the entire evening, which is a drop in the ocean, why not spend that time creating new images?

Quote from: Noedelhap on June 17, 2014, 19:08
Instead of uselessly clicking their ad links the entire evening, which is a drop in the ocean, why not spend that time creating new images?

Who says it's not being done during coffee break or while sitting on the can with an ipad? Just sayin.

Quote from: Noedelhap on June 17, 2014, 19:08
Instead of uselessly clicking their ad links the entire evening, which is a drop in the ocean, why not spend that time creating new images?

You don't need to click your mouse to make it click itself...
http://goo.gl/m0wIAq

Personally I use this:
http://download.cnet.com/Keyboard-And-Mouse-Recorder/3000-2162_4-33723.html
It is very good if you have to delete a whole portfolio...
I used it to delete mine on yay some months ago. It is not always perfect but it can help a lot

Clickin'

Stats:
Fotolia: 29,074,942 images
DPC: 22,226,912 images
Difference: 6,848,030 images

It would appear, some contributors opted back in, after all...

ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Before I have opted out from DPC and after, no sales difference.
But what is obvious: 95 % subscription sales (not even 30 cents).

I have a same amount of credit sales - nothing changed... at least not yet... 

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Yes, something like that. I think if they would send an email just informing of the issue, at least most of the contributors (those reading the email) would be aware of it. The big problem is that most of the contributors just don't know. Certainly SS do not want to 'declare a war', but they really should do something before it's too late.


IMHO, others that do know and still opt in are just not being intelligent. Sorry but that's my perception.

Quote from: CatTheCat on June 18, 2014, 14:14

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Yes, something like that. I think if they would send an email just informing of the issue, at least most of the contributors (those reading the email) would be aware of it. The big problem is that most of the contributors just don't know. Certainly SS do not want to 'declare a war', but they really should do something before it's too late.


IMHO, others that do know and still opt in are just not being intelligent. Sorry but that's my perception.

Could not agree more

Although it's more than just a lack of intelligence it's also greed and selfishness too.

As someone else already eloquently phrased it, FYIGM. Sums them up perfectly 

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Don't opt out, walk out. Vote with your feet and leave FT. I did and I'm happy I did. Protest means nothing to FT it makes no difference to FT. If there's a real strike and people leave, it will matter. But people are week and needy and will take money like prostitutes, complain they are being used and underpaid. Leave is the way to show them. Forum messages and clicks, oh I bet they are scared of us writing more messages here. Kill the snake, if you cut off it's head. No pictures nothing to sell they die.

Quote from: Batman on June 18, 2014, 16:40

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Don't opt out, walk out. Vote with your feet and leave FT. I did and I'm happy I did. Protest means nothing to FT it makes no difference to FT. If there's a real strike and people leave, it will matter. But people are week and needy and will take money like prostitutes, complain they are being used and underpaid. Leave is the way to show them. Forum messages and clicks, oh I bet they are scared of us writing more messages here. Kill the snake, if you cut off it's head. No pictures nothing to sell they die.

Ditto. I don't miss them and their lousy, manipulative commissions structure one iota.

And by the way anyone who thinks FT and DPC can co exist has another thing coming.

Pretty glowing review of DPC from Amos Struck.

I get that Amos is in the business of working with both contributors and agencies and has to remain fairly neutral. But he could have at least mentioned the controversy and that this is a hot issue with contributors.

I tried to leave a comment there but it won't let me post anything. And I didn't even cuss.

http://www.stockphotosecrets.com/agencies/reviews/dollar-photo-club-review.html

I encourage everyone who can to post their feedback to balance that lousy article.

Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2014, 19:26
I tried to leave a comment there but it won't let me post anything. And I didn't even cuss.

http://www.stockphotosecrets.com/agencies/reviews/dollar-photo-club-review.html

I encourage everyone who can to post their feedback to balance that lousy article.

Go to the Contact link at the top of the page and you can actually find Amos' e-mail. Everyone should contact him directly (he probably has a staffer screen the mail but if he gets inundated with enough negative he might just take notice.

Quote from: EmberMike on June 18, 2014, 19:16

Pretty glowing review of DPC from Amos Struck.

I get that Amos is in the business of working with both contributors and agencies and has to remain fairly neutral. But he could have at least mentioned the controversy and that this is a hot issue with contributors.

I agree. By promoting a site that is so bad for contributors, Amos shows that he really does not care about the contributors at all. It is disappointing since he is one of the people arranging Microstockexpo. I am now happy that I decided not to buy access.

QuoteStats:
Fotolia: 29,074,942 images
DPC: 22,226,912 images
Difference: 6,848,030 images

It would appear, some contributors opted back in, after all...

Not necessarily. But surprisingly, there are still some people uploading to FT, and that increases also the DPC count.

DPC now has a referral (Ambassador) program. Up to $50

https://twitter.com/DollarPhotoClub/status/479174986633347072

I'm guessing the initial batch of signups has slowed and they're looking to boost it...

Quote from: LesPalenik on June 18, 2014, 21:39

QuoteStats:
Fotolia: 29,074,942 images
DPC: 22,226,912 images
Difference: 6,848,030 images

It would appear, some contributors opted back in, after all...

Not necessarily. But surprisingly, there are still some people uploading to FT, and that increases also the DPC count.

I think so.
As compared to June 12:
(Fotolia: 28,928,757 images
DPC: 21,984,779 images):

Growth @ Fotolia: 29,074,942 - 28,928,757 = 146,185 images
Growth @ DPC: 22,226,912 - 21,984,779 = 242,133 images

Quote from: Batman on June 18, 2014, 16:40

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Don't opt out, walk out. Vote with your feet and leave FT. I did and I'm happy I did. Protest means nothing to FT it makes no difference to FT. If there's a real strike and people leave, it will matter. But people are week and needy and will take money like prostitutes, complain they are being used and underpaid. Leave is the way to show them. Forum messages and clicks, oh I bet they are scared of us writing more messages here. Kill the snake, if you cut off it's head. No pictures nothing to sell they die.

This is the only thing to do! If an agency is this devious the only respond that has an impact is leaving. Just opting out of DPC isn't enough. I have been with Fotolia for seven years, have deleted many images a year or two ago and now made the final move and I'm happy about it. Looking forward towards other healthier sites.

Quote from: ferdinand on June 18, 2014, 10:33
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Why should SS do something so unprofessional on many levels?
1. cold calls/emails are never polite;
2. asking to boycott competitors is never professional.
Should they do - but I am sure they won't - this would diminish my opinion of SS, not FT.

All I expect from SS - and luckily they are already doing - is to find new ways to increase earnings on their OWN site.