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« on: January 07, 2023, 23:35 »
Finn,
I only use lexica to find themes and some useful guides to my prompts that i like. I think Stable Diffusion can be more powerful with trained models or with image references.
I agree, eventually AI will get there... but it has been quite a speed race. I am using my memory here so it may not be precise but in 2022 we had:
-Disco diffusion v3, v4; Stable Diffusion 1.1,1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5,2 and 2.1;
-Midjourney v2,v3,v4a,v4b
I just tried with a simple text prompt of "french bulldog sit in XVII century Throne" and use some technical arguments without image reference (see images). Probably i could tune a little better but the result is ok for at least showing concept to a client before photo shooting. AI is still struggling to learn the teeth, feet and hands since there's still lack of knowledge of anatomy and right positions of any animal.
To be honest i don't know how much time AI will need but it's getting better everyday since it learns concepts, styles and references 24/7.
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« on: January 06, 2023, 21:33 »
What is the image size and resolution like on some of these AI generators? I one better than the other when it comes to that? DALLE vs Midjourney vs ??
Hi, you got plenty more AI generators but in my opinion the 3 Big at the moment are Dalle, Midjourney and stable diffusion. Also there's a buzz about Playground Ai but i never tried. I am currently using Midjourney subscription and free SD 2.1. via Github/colab. In terms of Size/ resolution: 1) Dalle- 1024x1024 2) Midjourney v4 : upscale 1024X1024, beta scale 2048x2048 but you loose detail in 2nd (you can improve detail directly in Prompt using arguments like ultra detail, super detailed, Photorealistic, etc... and request best quality which costs 2 times more) 3a)"Outdated" Disco diffusion / Stable Diffusion 1.5 : 1668x768 with colab pro+ 3b)Stable diffusion 2.1 : 768x 768 or 1280x720 (sometimes errors in 2nd) For both you can increase detail and sharp changing some parameters (example: 25 steps basic, 350 steps more detail, also you consume more power and time) Note: After... you can upscale with AI tools but you got better results depending the type of image if it is photo realistic, cartoons/anime, 3d render etc...Sometimes it's better to combine 2/3 AI upscale tools but this depends really on the image itself and of course trial error process.
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« on: December 28, 2022, 13:40 »
If AI is good and meets a need then it will get used.
I couldn't agree more with you. Perhaps some people will be surprised but AI has helped during the pandemic: 1. Predicting outbreaks Not many people realize, but it was actually an AI-automated system that first alerted the wider world to COVID-19. 2. Protecting the vulnerable When you can predict something, you can prepare for it. Thats the goal of several AI researchers who are building models to protect vulnerable populations from COVID-19 and other viral diseases. 3. Contact tracing The model helped identify close contacts faster, and even potential super spreaders and hot-spot suburbs. 4. Research and development AWS has launched CORD-19 Search, built on the Allen Institute for AIs open dataset of more than 128,000 research papers, to quickly allow scientists to look-up questions about COVID-19. AI is even help in the race for COVID vaccines and anti-viral drugs. In 2020, a UK company, BenevolentAI, used an AI drug discovery platform to figure out which compounds stood the best chance against COVID-19. You can find a nice article about this here: https://online.rmit.edu.au/blog/4-ways-ai-has-helped-during-pandemic
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« on: December 25, 2022, 23:52 »
Artists and photographers today would be fools to think that's not going to happen to them. Most commercial artists and photographers (except those working in extremely niche segments that's not replicable by AI) are going to be out of a job in a few years. They're going to have to learn to make money some other way.
I think it will happen to everybody and not just artists! AI generative like midjourney, Dall-e or Stable are a very small drop in the AI ocean. People in all areas are adapting AI as tool to improve performance. It's in Agriculture, industries, health, Finance, Economy, Banking, Security, weather, news, marketing, etc... do you think everybody will be out of job in a few years? But let's stick to photography... Photoshop is implementing AI, Cameras are implementing AI to improve shooting, object recognition, Image stabilization, Shooting alone with no human in hazard environments, deep tracking, etc... In that sense why companies of photography or Post production are developing and implementing AI in their products? Following your logic no one will invest in development new AI cameras since we have Ai generative tools, right? But that's not happening is it? On the other hand, marketing is betting much more in User-generated content (tiktok, unboxing videos, real people reviews, travel vlogers, people doing tutorials) which is real and authentic. However marketing is relying on AI to analyze data from consumers... Therefore like with computer in past, now...people are adapting and taking advantage to improve their work with AI. I don't think one will dilute the other. At least for now 
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« on: December 24, 2022, 11:18 »
you must realize that your "post processing service" will not be needed in the future.
I am sorry but I have a different perspective. They will all be here in the future but probably in different manners. I find interesting to have this tool available like any other in the past and i don't see a straight correlation to a dystopian/utopian future. Of course AI changed the game but new services and new type of works will rise. In past months i see more companies hiring creative people and setting their own creative/communication department instead of hiring an external company to do that. Mainly to deal with social media where you have to post a lot of content (nearly 20 different posts/day across platforms). Ai will really help here for sure. It will help to elaborate new concepts/ideas to be created, produced and distributed on same day. Microstock will still be there to help too since i don't see AI producing reality if you need it (news, documentaries, happenings, etc). Wish you all a Merry Christmas!
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« on: December 09, 2022, 21:25 »
Maybe uploading exclusive content to pond5 is not a good idea?
i just uploaded my first file, was hoping to build up a different video income stream with exclusive files.
Is all exclusive content sent to Shutterstock? Or are these real pond5 sales?
Cobalt, the reason for such low sales of GPP (Global Partner Program) was because of subscription model that Adobe made to P5. As a result P5 terminate the partnership but this action cannot be terminate in days. It took months... So... it's Adobe subscription sales not really P5 sales. Hope this helps...You will find in P5 forum an written message from P5 Staff (Pond5 Forums/General Discussion/December GPP Payout) to clarify this issue: "Hi Folks, Recently, many artists received payouts labeled as GPP program licensing transactions. Please know that all of these payments are related to the remaining balances owed to our Pond5 artists for Adobe Stock subscription sales through our previous partnership with Adobe. As you may know, we have terminated our partnership with Adobe as of July 29th, and while we had previously communicated the final payment would occur at the end of the summer, we later learned there was additional licensing activity that took place during the wind-down period of the partnership. These payments now represent the final transactions, in full settlement of amounts owed to our Pond5 artists under the partnership. We apologize for the confusion and thank you for your patience as we process these payments. Please feel free to reach out to us at [email protected] with any questions."
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« on: December 08, 2022, 14:14 »
It seems nice I will try this... Thanks for sharing! 
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« on: December 06, 2022, 02:30 »
When the Daguerreotype appeared and photography was born as an art form many painters turned against photographers saying that there was no such thing as an art form in photos because photographers were just copying reality. It is curious that Reality was what most painters were painting at that time.
Then with digital and Sw like photoshop, many followed the wave of saying that those images were not art photography. They were pure manipulation of reality, forgetting also the principle of image value (representation of an idea or a presented idea). AI technology allows to improve an artist's performance in many ways and brings new possibilities for an artist to express himself. It is in the Prompt that we identify the originality and value of the represented image.
Therefore a person that understands code and use different sw to produce images is just valid to me as a painter.
There is a fine essay that is taught in Art Universities called "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" from Walter Benjamin which helps to understand that Generative process is just that: a process. Oil painting, analogue or digital photography and even generative AI are not exactly copy/paste but an process of making images.
There are lots of SW online to make "G-Art". We all can go to Github and craft our own SW based in the available codes that are free there. Also we can use sw like stable diffusion to mix, create, train our own models like most of people do nowadays.
Nevertheless, in short: I do like and make "G-Art". Some things are amazing but still... i prefer doing street photography. No code can give me the pleasure to shoot those moments with my camera.
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« on: October 26, 2022, 07:06 »
For some customers at beginning it could be a wonder feature but I think its little pointless to sell it this way since anyone can produce tons of it instantly even with all free images that are in the web. So no one will actually need AI images of sstk or any other microstock site when a customer realizes it can do it very easily too.
The way i see it ,AI generated images its a very small part of what you can produce with AI and real data image.
The actual value is in real images with real data.
For example you want to determine the velocity of a Hurricane or the size of ocean wave by video/image. Other example, you want to mocap an real animal movement or a dance style. The list is endless of possibilities to use AI with real data.
The actual problem with microstock sites today is most of the features AI requires to have good video for Machine learning (not artistic, more documentary, long shot with no movement). This means more opportunities for us to start doing this kind of shots of everything. Instead of doing close ups, pans and tilts we should think ahead and capture also for this kind of business. Anyway i recommend to choose a niche and try to present your database and sell it directly to research companies. From my experience it's much more profitable!
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« on: October 19, 2022, 15:40 »
Thanks for the news 123rf. The way I see it, I think the problem isn't just or exactly contributors submitting AI images to microstock sites. The volume possible to produce in a short time is large and a AI contributors/companies may choose to make a website and sell there or sell directly to other companies.In fact, there are already sites for selling AI images like https://generated.photos/ or https://aiartshop.com. Even Saatchiart, opensea or rarible are in this race too. But the problem is that 123rf shares 2 million free photos... and other sites too just to attract clients. If someone use these free contributor photos (our work) to train models.... how long 123rf thinks its needed to train a model and create a new image? Of course it would depend on the size of the model you want to train but today you can train in less than an hour with amazing results with at least 12 photos. Not to mention that you can do it from a cheap laptop with google colab. So there is the problem of free photos being available for machine learning too...
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« on: October 18, 2022, 23:29 »
The article Getty ban AI images is very interesting.
It points out some of concerns of this community but artificial intelligence has a lot of potential and a world of possibilities.
There is a huge amount of work that I see on twitter every day and I can't tell the difference if it was created with only Photoshop, with tools generated by AI and Photoshop, or only generated by AI through the prompt. Unless the creator tells me how he made it, I don't see how it will be fairly possible to detect it. So if Getty Images will rely on users to identify and report such images i would say its a lost cause. I rather rely on AI to do some reverse engineer and try to come up with a diagnosis to the curator.
But even with Sci-fi AI reverse engineer idea the plot becomes more complicated...
For example if we use dreambooth with stable diffusion means you can create your own models and then use prompts in stable diffusion to act just like a filter, paint or style you think of...
I don't have a solution but maybe problem does not rely in "AI-generated art" itself but more in the process used to generate art with AI.
There should be legal boundaries.
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« on: October 11, 2022, 12:09 »
What's up with their idea of opening a Hyperstock website? Why is it still not there. I'm interested in uploading my video there.
didn't you hear? the website has been shut down. It was on the air for a week i think. Featuring unlimited downloads for a small fee... specially in the current days where people are training ai models. Will you be interest ? giving all of your work of years for 30/50 euros? Then after training my models or download all your work for all kind of use will you be still in business? Due to the high negative feedback from contributors including myself it was closed. Best thing they did and thanks to Pond5 for listening to their contributors.
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« on: October 09, 2022, 23:49 »
wow ! I didn't know it. Remarkable to read "Changes included prohibitions on the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that promote misinformation. Basically you can't even have different opinion from them.... that will probably be misinformation. I wonder if Uber Eats goes for this kind of policy. With my usual complains of delay probably one day my fine will be no soup for me... better cross my fingers ehehehe 
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« on: October 05, 2022, 09:34 »
"Remove art, expression, individuality and perhaps most importantly trust from the equation and you are hastening the process."
I share some of your point of views specially what are the boundaries of Art. Where exactly is the line or is there any? What is art? What defines an artist? questions that an artwork should reflect.
The answers to these questions were shaken in 1917, when Frenchman Marcel Duchamp brought a urinal signed R. Mutt to an exhibition by the New York Association of Independent Artists. The condition to exhibit was simple: pay 6 dollars for registration. Duchamp would called a ready-made (already ready). Banal objects turned into art. What makes it unique was the signature.
Others follow this ready made art path like Andy Warhol with Pop Art. I don't think both artist remove art, expression, individuality. Actually IMO they are the added value.
Exactly what you would like to achieve with your work. Art or just being creative i trust in your feelings and judgment.
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« on: October 04, 2022, 12:32 »
" Why go all through that trouble when you can excel in photography or creating illustrations, learn and do great work on Photoshop and with other image editors yourself? If you have patience, skill and willingness to learn that is? " Simple answer would be: its faster. Keep in mind that even Photoshop now uses AI too and It's not a "trouble" for me. it's just another tool to help me create artwork. I start with analogue and moved to digital. i like both. But it's faster with digital and results depends of what i want to achieve in a creative sense. The same happens with 3d renders. In a way they are photography too although the process is not quite the same ....still.... renders calculate the light and reflect them into objects like real world. Nowadays i see a lot of people even using Unreal engine (game engine) to do photography artworks. "Besides, It is always a good idea to read the terms of service. You can't even be the copyright owner." It's funny you mention this... because in university there are studies that point that the Prompt is the new "digital signature" of the artist. You can copy/paste the prompt but the AI does not create equal images, like fingerprints (they are similar but not equal). This is arguable of course but not in the realm of authenticity but rather understanding that humans are now Human-machine people. AI is just another exponential of you and not a substitute of you, like a pen, a smartphone or your email account. In terms of copyright owner this depends what models you use or how they are trained for your creative artwork. You will find free libraries of AI trained models on GitHub but you can create your own. the code is free. i suggest you to use google Colab for this. So, in short: From Analogue to digital... from Photoshop to C4D/UE5 or AI tools/code similar to Dall-e i use the tool that i find it will be better to create what i want to achieve.
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« on: October 03, 2022, 14:05 »
Dall-e 2 and other ai software are just what we need: more junk & crap images.
Interesting your point of view... don't expect AI is like a jukebox where you push a button and that's it. It's not. You need to figure out good prompts, train models or acquire good trained models (which depends of what are your needs) then... set up number of steps and among a big list of parameters that you can tweak. Nevertheless i've been selling here and there Ai images/animations since 2018. For me AI is just a part of improving my performance of work. I just see AI for Image as a tool like Photoshop or a simple color pencil to help me create.
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« on: September 12, 2022, 18:54 »
BUT Shutterstock has the best contributor support of any agency.... Shutterstock is the greatest stock agency in existence. Absolutely!
You have no idea how much i laughed. Thank you for your post.
Congratulations i think you're in 0,00001% that probably thinks that.
Please, please, please....
Don't forget to get a big tattoo with SSTK logo and btw upload-upload-uplload it to your portfolio too.
If you're right you probably sell thousands!!! Absolutely! ehehhe 
You can laugh as much as you can (laughing is good for your mental health )
But even if don't know much about their support, even if I don't like their 10c "earnings" and their January reset, despite all that, at the end of the day, SS is still the best agency there is, by some margin.
To back up my statement, this is the distribution of my revenue for the past month:
So what you consider best agency? the one which pays better right? well for me i quit SSTK long ago. Best thing i did ... I make much more today by a very large margin (thousands not hundreds) in other agency. Each portfolio is very unique and if works for you i am really happy. But for me, searching for new opportunities was the key to solve part of microstock puzzle. And in that puzzle some of AI knowledge as become more useful in last 2-3 years...
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« on: September 12, 2022, 07:51 »
I miss the SS forum, until today I still can't understand why they took it down
Hi brasilnut! I think it was for too much negative comments when SSTK start with the reset button in January and new levels system. But to be honest i don't miss it. Um abrao from Portugal
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« on: September 12, 2022, 07:39 »
BUT Shutterstock has the best contributor support of any agency.... Shutterstock is the greatest stock agency in existence. Absolutely!
You have no idea how much i laughed. Thank you for your post. Congratulations i think you're in 0,00001% that probably thinks that. Please, please, please.... Don't forget to get a big tattoo with SSTK logo and btw upload-upload-uplload it to your portfolio too. If you're right you probably sell thousands!!! Absolutely! ehehhe
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« on: July 18, 2022, 04:39 »
Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.
I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00.
Hi Annie, maybe it could be other thing.... if your content is being sold in other marketplace by less P5 will match same price. This was introduced by p5 in 2018/2019 contributor agreement. However they change a little bit lately (some months before the SSTK merge). If you go to section 3. Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue, article v in contributor Agreement (link : https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor) "notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price."
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« on: July 09, 2022, 01:59 »
my guess is that probably was removed by some moderator.
There is only one moderator who can do that, the site owner. From the past, there are no other moderators. It's his site, he has that right.
When the discussion stops being point and counter-point and becomes personal attacks or lopsided, biased insulting attacks, (from opposing sides of the opinions) there's a high probability that it will disappear. 
A juicy conspiracy theory is far more believable than the truth!
Yeah and I can never understand why? Seemingly intelligent people, will get fooled and spread the disinformation, as if it's factual?
My best thanks Uncle Pete for sharing this info. It wasn't exactly my idea when I made this topic. But I agree that there were times when I also felt that things could get a little more tense. Either way, I do respect choices of moderator.
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« on: July 07, 2022, 14:26 »
"When AI can generate people and scenes that are really high definition we will be in trouble." you already can! Just use Ai scale for that. You can purchase for 99$ Gigapixel from Topaz labs products you can try for free too. I've been using it since 2019/2020. With this Ai sw you can Upscale and enhance any image by up to 600% while preserving image quality, texture, and detail. But my major concern is actually using eyes for training even in academic purpose. You see there's not just AI art going on. And the eyes just like fingerprints, identical twins don't share the same iris swirls and patterns, so each of their irises is also unique. I am sure you all are aware of AI tracking. There is a lot of types of Ai tracking... you can have already also in cameras such as R5, right? So "imagine" that instead of using the AI pyton code to use 70K eyes and produce a new unique eye you use it to track similar images over the net. This is not sci fi anymore. I think we all know there is a device that we use and look at all time and constantly doing selfies and tik tok movies, shared in social media, right? It is not distopic to think that AI in the wrong hands can have bad results. Anyway... there is always a workaround: use sunglasses! ehehehe
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« on: July 06, 2022, 01:00 »
Justanimage, I understand what you are saying. Please understand also that all digital images are made in a unique combination of RGB pixels which is transformed in to numbers. Each Digital Image is combine in a unique way that may depend in the format you use (tga,png, jpeg, Gif, etc)- Mathematical formulas in binary code. The image itself is protect by law digital (binary code not pixel) or analogue and you can't use it even for training without consent of the owners. In 2004 i was in R&D project where we need to train an algorithm to improve the pap smear diagnosis for the doctor based on image match. So you can imagine the process... a lot of diplomacy talk, European commission, Project officers, Evaluators, lawyers, Signatures, paperwork and consent (women, hospital and government) But let's do the other thinking to explain it better...an image is binary code. your formula (code) too. So imagine you release your formula/image online so people can purchase or see your work. Now imagine that i will take it and put in a machine learning to the point where i create a new one. I will be violating your own work, right? Even if it was new the binary code was once based on yours or not? you know it was... otherwise will be a blank code producing blank formulas. Actually this thinking already exists and its called "machine dreaming" and it's made by steps through generative adversarial network (GAN-AI) to produce new formulas(binary code), images (png, jpg, mp4) or sounds (wav, mp3). So you said "The eye is generated by a formula trained by lots of eyes....." therefore i must ask, real people eyes or "made" by you? do you have consent? do you ask or pay? "... but to generate this eye, not a single pixel of the original images is used." Of course not. You don't need it anymore. you train your machine to produce the necessary binary code/formula with generative adversarial network. I will give an good example of my point. there is the site called https://generated.photos/ Please go there.... it is a microstock site where you can buy Generated photos like yours created from scratch by AI systems. All images can be used for any purpose without worrying about copyrights, distribution rights, infringement claims, or royalties. But you must pay to use....of course and at the end of site you will see that was trained on studio photos by Icons8 who was paid or give consent from owners, right?
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« on: July 03, 2022, 10:28 »
Hi,
You produce an image that is made from other images so first all images must be yours.
Example: let's say you want to make an landscape of an ocean in a desert with a moon. if you use Photoshop for that i am sure you know that the picture of desert, moon and ocean must be yours first.
You don't need a property release of AI Gan technology SW like you don't need a property release of Photoshop SW to produce digital images.
What you need is just to Describe property covered by release including intellectual property, details of any registration / other description.
Something like Gan technology/digital image and reference to your intellectual property number is enough.
If you are going to "make" new humans you must add all property releases (probably the "thousands of images" as you described, at least). So the human eye that you generate with GAN it is arguably. It is not generated with a 3d SW like c4d, blender, Maya or Zbrush but with AI-Gan since the stitches, blur and merge are an evidence in the image (typical artifacts from GAN merge pictures) not to mention the missing of eyelashes.
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« on: June 29, 2022, 21:54 »
This is good and as expected. But what's next? Maybe Pond5 clips appearing on Shutterstock instead. Will they be available for Shutterstock video subs? I hope not. At least exclude Pond5 exclusive clips from Shutterstock video sub and make Pond5 exclusive clips for non subscription only, I hope.
I don't think p5 contributors will have their content in SSTK soon. During merge, the P5 CEO explained that they were not planning to do it. I share Jo Ann vision. it's more a case of cutting resources of clips from primary business rival.
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