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« on: July 03, 2019, 08:15 »
It's been a few years since I had to report a theft on SS. Anyone who has done it more recently; is there an email for contributors to report or do I have to fill out a full DMCA? Thanks for any guidance!
The last one I reported was in January and I went through their contact system and it wasn't sorted, it's only when you go direct to [email protected] you get things done. They like the DMCA procedure, but as you can see by the following response to my grievance they can sort it without. "Please be advised that upon receipt of the above-referenced correspondence, the image(s) referred to therein was removed from the Shutterstock website. Please be advised that Shutterstock relies upon the integrity of its contributors, all of whom warrant and represent to us that their images will not infringe the rights of any third parties. Moreover, Shutterstock is a "service provider" as such term is defined by the U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"). As a service provider, Shutterstock will remove any image identified in a proper DMCA take down notice. Though your correspondence did not adhere to the strict statutory requirements of the DMCA, we elected to treat it as a proper notice and expeditiously removed the image(s) in question. IP Team Shutterstock, Inc."
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« on: June 18, 2019, 13:12 »
No the monkey has gone now
"Well, this is unexpected...
Sorry, we can't find what you're looking for. While you're here, take a look at our hand-picked Collections.
Error code: 404"
Received this email yesterday.
"Thanks, Alexandre. We appreciate you alerting us to this issue. Please know that this portfolio was reported earlier to our team, and has been suspended.
IP Team
Shutterstock, Inc."
Which begs the question why was the offending portfolio still up many hours after you alerted them?
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« on: June 16, 2019, 16:28 »
This is great (in a tragic way).
One of the most well known wildlife images of the last few years, accepted onto the site, presumably with no checking or verification:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/animal-monkey-primate-1379276279
Obviously the poster only has 200 images, of a wide variety of topics. All of which are stolen.
Im just waiting for tank man or afghan girl to make an appearance.
This ultra famous black macaque monkey from Indonesia in now a grey gorilla from Africa, or is it a bird? So much for keywords on Shutterstock. This must be one of the most reported copyright cases the world has ever known. This image has appeared on every major and minor news channel, not once, but several times during the court case and shared by all and sundry on social media. Yet, it still remains on Shutterstock despite being informed of the infringement, it beggars belief.
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« on: June 12, 2019, 16:34 »
This is why I have not piped in before now. You can get them SO CHEAP from the agencies that I figured you were trying to game the system and really get from us free.
Same here.
Gavin, maybe this new-to-you information will help you understand why so many folks here appear (and are!) a bit hostile to the "great new ideas" that both stock agencies and individuals routinely offer us. Once burned, twice or thrice wary.
Yes, I do understand it better now. But really, I was genuinely trying to find a structure that everyone would feel comfortable with.
You understand it better now, I bet you do. You understand how the agencies can exploit us so much, because we had a buyer on the hook, started at $5 per image, dropped it to $1 and ended up recommending an agency, which will give us $0.38 at the most. Good luck with your project and don't forget to get the discount most agencies offer to new customers.
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« on: June 07, 2019, 17:40 »
Most submissions will not be seen by a human eye, if your images are any good they will be accepted eventually, just buggers up your work flow for a time while they get it right.
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« on: May 25, 2019, 14:25 »
This is how I see it when assessing if a legal action should be taken:
1. Have an open mind, don't assume anything, because you just don't know.
2. If you don't see value in your work and protect your rights, then who cares?
3. If a theft is not dealt with, there will be more thefts. Remember it can happen to you too.
As to the costs and so on, that's between me and my lawyer.
1. You can assume that you will get little to no support from you partners the agencies. With each additional agency you use the difficulties will grow exponentially. 2. If you care about your mental health stick to one agency, once you sell RF on several agencies you will go mad chasing wild geese. 3. If you are worried about theft microstock is not the place for you. The costs and time are prohibitive if you are chasing hundreds if not thousands of infringements. You may just find a golden goose if you get lucky.
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« on: May 25, 2019, 14:05 »
Sorry for pointing the obvious, but in the link you provide says:
To register as a business, go to our registration page and enter the full legal business name as the full name on the registration page.
So don't you have to apply register from scratch for a new account?
Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but in the link he provided says: "Please contact us if you or any of your affiliations already own a contributor account on Shutterstock and wish to switch it to a business, or if you have a personal account and wish to create a new business account."
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« on: May 25, 2019, 11:49 »
Try their facebook and twitter pages, tell them their outsourced contributor support is shoddy and you would like to speak to Shutterstock.
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« on: May 20, 2019, 13:43 »
As with all agencies you should read Canva's Terms and conditions carefully.
Beware of the possibility of retrospective rejections, even on good selling images.
Even if they reject all of your images don't close your account, because they still have the rights to sell your images for an indefinite period if it has been made into a template, which anybody can do. I have had sales of images over three years after being rejected.
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« on: May 11, 2019, 19:03 »
Offtopic question, but it has connection with SS, and it's caused by "exciting" news.
If I opt out from Image sales, Footage sales, Sensitive use and Enhanced license (in SS account settings) will all my files be removed from all SS searches, including partners sites?
Thanks!
Yes, if you look at your dashboard where it says Image portfolio it will have 0 next to it. Click on it and it will say "This contributor has no active images in their portfolio." Partner sites, who knows? Give me a partner sight and I will have a look.
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« on: May 09, 2019, 14:24 »
My first EL was in November 2010 after 280 downloads.
This year I have had seven from less than 200 downloads.
I think more ELs are sold via the Enterprise team these days so they will be reported as SODs.
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« on: May 09, 2019, 11:40 »
You have got to laugh
"The Shutterstock API is backed by a royalty-free image library where every asset is vetted for compliance with copyright laws. For example, all Shutterstock images with models require proper model releases. Likewise, images featuring landmarks, private property, artwork, and even recognizable animals are required to have valid releases.
The rigor of our asset review process minimizes the risk of copyright claims for your application and end users. With Shutterstock API plans, you can enjoy the peace of mind of choosing a solution that helps you protect your business and end users."
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« on: April 21, 2019, 12:48 »
Shutterstock should be ashamed of themselves for removing their forum thread about this, essentially condoning the theft.
It's been agreed between contributors that once a thread has been taken down, another one will re-appear ad nauseam.
Actually, the SS photo does belong to Adam:
FML, worse than I thought.
https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/kbat02/000012476?l=en_US&fs=RelatedArticle
Can I submit work that contains copyrighted material for commercial use?
You must own or control the copyright to all content you submit to Shutterstock. This means that you cannot submit work obtained from other sources such as free image websites or public domain, or incorporate such work into your content submissions, unless you have permission to do so. This includes, but is not limited to artwork, photos, sculptures, architecture, exhibits or audio which are copyrighted.
Why is it so f***ing hard for Shutterstock to apply their own rules?
They don't have rules only legalese, that's merely a get out clause so they can pass the buck to the uploader if the shite hits the fan.
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« on: April 21, 2019, 12:41 »
You don't mind paying Getty's loans when you have plenty to pay them with, not a moral or ethical choice then.
What makes you think that.
Your comment is pathetic, I always minded, the problem is that the site has got worse over the years, when it was iStock it was fair.
Again you are pathetic, come up with a decent comment or not at all.
Yes, it was a pathetic unneeded comment on my part, but you do need to take a long look in the mirror when you say that.
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« on: April 21, 2019, 11:03 »
You don't mind paying Getty's loans when you have plenty to pay them with, not a moral or ethical choice then.
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« on: April 20, 2019, 11:23 »
These prices send a signal to other agencies where the bottom is and if they want that market share they have to compete at their level, the only option for contributors is to withdraw their consent to sell at these prices.
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« on: April 19, 2019, 12:07 »
Seems like the consensus here is that:
"If you build it, I'll destroy it" 
Can you have a consensus with only four comments? My comment was about perspective, we all have one and the lines look different to everybody.
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« on: April 19, 2019, 11:25 »
I think you overstepped the line by using an egg custard to represent the ring of fire, oh bugger I think that I just over stepped the forum etiquette line.
One man's line is another man's skipping rope.
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« on: April 19, 2019, 07:54 »
I don't think it's about putting your entire portfolio on Pond5, but getting value for your best work, which Shutterstock or Adobe don't appreciate by not adding it to their own Select and Premium collections. Pond5 exclusive gives you the opportunity to have your own premium collection that you don't have anywhere else. The difference in value can be 5 - 10 times what you currently get depending how you price your work. Being at the mercy of the agencies can be down right depressing sometimes and valuing yourself can be good for the soul and the pocket, but even if you just break even through lower sales you know your cut is fair.
Isn't it better to go through a macrostock agency for these higher value files?
Go wherever you can get sales, but customers are used to paying premium prices at microstock agencies now, it's just that for the most part we are excluded from those sales.
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« on: April 19, 2019, 06:17 »
I don't think it's about putting your entire portfolio on Pond5, but getting value for your best work, which Shutterstock or Adobe don't appreciate by not adding it to their own Select and Premium collections. Pond5 exclusive gives you the opportunity to have your own premium collection that you don't have anywhere else. The difference in value can be 5 - 10 times what you currently get depending how you price your work. Being at the mercy of the agencies can be down right depressing sometimes and valuing yourself can be good for the soul and the pocket, but even if you just break even through lower sales you know your cut is fair.
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« on: April 18, 2019, 17:30 »
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« on: April 16, 2019, 18:30 »
Hey all,
So as there is a lot of discussion regarding the P5 Exclusive program, which I really feel is kind of a scam.
Are there are really contributes who believe that P5E sales can be greater than all other stocks combined?
60% P5 sales > 30% of All other stocks sales (including the P5 40%)? Who would go for it?
It's not only P5. ISE, the new Vimeo stock, and some other stocks, does any of them has the economic power for convincing contributes to be exclusive?
I've been selling stocks for 3 years now and I just don't see it. They all share the market, and for me, different shots are being sold in the different stocks.
The way the market looks like (referring also the the polls in here), it has no sense for contributes at all.
Maybe for new contributors? That doesn't know sh*t?
It does make sense for P5, that in a very impressive rhetoric phrasing (soooo American) have reduced our cut from 50% to 40%, using the exclusive program as a huge fig leaf.
Personally I don't care, it's business and 40% is still fine, just leave us from the exclusive BS.
A stock that REALLY wants to help contributes ? Refer your energy in bringing us more sales, this is why you take 60-70% commission, right?
For someone who don't care you come across as aggressive towards the deal, as though it was a threat? As far as the math is concerned, if you have what may be considered premium content, but are not favoured by other agencies you have the opportunity to set premium prices and at 60% one sale could be worth 10 at other agencies, as well as getting a decent cut for your not so premium offerings. Partner sales at adobe and vimeo also mean that different content that isn't to Pond5 buyers liking may get a chance as well. Give it a go with 10% of your new work, call it an hedge against future subscription offerings by the other agencies.
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« on: April 14, 2019, 15:40 »
Offtopic, I cannot understand the scientific value of the image. Not really educated.
I have no idea, for me black holes is what i have watched in Interstellar movie!
But as a still it is one easy to replicate subject.
First thought was ceramic kitchen stove out of focus and shacky shot!
 
I take it you didn't take the time to look at the full size photo just the little crop in the middle published by the mass media, crap sells.
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« on: April 08, 2019, 14:41 »
Can't you get all that info from just looking at the best sellers?
It's standard practice to the point of being a cliche to have a survey in a dissertation these days.
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« on: April 08, 2019, 14:27 »
I take it that the source of this information is the Shutterstock map?
If so the highest number of downloads would probably be Europe closely followed by other countries and Northern America a poor third.
In terms of money more of the SODs that I'm aware of (they are not always reported on the map) and ELs come from Northern America, so they will occasionally match Europe, which do alright with ODs and the odd EL, other counties are 99.9% subs.
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