Quote from: Dragomir Nikolov on July 16, 2016, 21:35
Your idea sounds good. However photographers have been lied by Leo and Symbiostock recently!!! You must give much more proves about your site.

Not my site. Our site. But sadly i noticed  there`s no way to start something like that at MSG.
So let`s wait for "another bruce". Maybe we just have to wait a few years. 

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I can see the last days Shutterstock is updating all profile pages.
If you added a "website", this is no longer visible. I added mine as a description of myself.

yes you tried it with symbio? I saw many of these sites. There`s no customer friendly interface. No eye-tracking or similar. Many more reasons. You are completely right.

Quote from: Robin@Symbiostock on July 14, 2016, 20:36
What you're suggesting is mostly already in place - visit Symzio via the link in my signature. Every image there is self-hosted by contributors just like you - they retain full control over whether it is active or not, set most of the pricing, and retain 70% or more of any income generated through sales.

Now that the infrastructure is there, and you see other peers pushing for it, jump on board and push for it's further success yourself.

It's in your hands.

the worst timing to place your advertising   
..and no, clearly it would not be the same (i do not say symbio is not good).

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Quote from: hellou on July 14, 2016, 16:21
What is wrong with the business concept of SS IS FT?

The leading agencies of today weren't late to the game, unlike you. If you don't offer something new, customers will stick to what they're familiar with

Quote from: hellou on July 14, 2016, 16:21Additional you would keep all earnings. Isn`t this you all complain about every day.

100% of zero is still zero.
And how are you going to keep the site going without income?

Quote from: hellou on July 14, 2016, 16:21Never said you need to spend any cent for marketing. Millions? Who is talking about millions of dollars? Welcome to 2016. So many ways starting with social media to attract customers. If we would have a contributor made agency this would be a nice way to attract many people.

It's not that easy. You can't rely on that marketing 'strategy' alone.

Quote from: hellou on July 14, 2016, 16:21
Who is buying your images? Yes people working in marketing/ design. If you offer them the same content and let them know we are "fair trade for contributors" we made the first good point. The customers are mostly design related people too. Community based content is the most favorite one.

Fair trade is of no benefit to the customer. Maybe one or two altruistic designers may give your agency a shot, but most clients will look further for a cheap subscription deal.

Quote from: hellou on July 14, 2016, 16:21
Asked for your wishes and ideas not for you money or time. So blabla. Iam bored already.  I will come back with a ready-to-go solution maybe in a half year. Mabye more/ other people are ready to join then.  Thank you and good night 

My wish is that you come up with a decent business plan before I spent time helping you with free advice on how to start an agency. But if you're bored already, maybe this isn't the way to go for you.

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Quote from: Tror on July 12, 2016, 10:00
What I don`t get is why the PP defenders and fanboys always get so hysterical and emotional.

I mean, what happened happend, what is public is public, what is proven is just there. Soooo....apart from getting emotional: for some, suddenly all the admitted practices, settled lawsuits, testimonials etc. are invalid, disappear overnight, are all soooo justified etc. and everybody coming here posting warnings and problems is bad boy, liar, stole images etc. Paypal obviously is always right lol Denial of truth can be convenient.....

However, as I said in one of my previous posts in this thread: if it works for you just continue happily using it! and just keep the warnings in mind in case it affects you one day! And if not: congrats!

So, just relax guys! If it works for you just go ahead, but please do not discredit and insult those who have trouble with them without causing it or doing wrong....

Some MSG members are maybe hidden workers. For example there was a guy working for Fotolia here at MSG.
I agree. let`s sum up. Keep the warning in your mind, PayPal or FT dont give a **** on single user/ contributor and kick you out at any time they want to.
No for real, that`s true Because this i love SS. Never heard similar from SS. Good luck

Ft not my favorite. Just remember all that ****
DC, close contributor accounts for no reason or close accounts for MSG posts and..

  for me FT earnings are only around 10% of SS.

envato very bad for me. canstock better, less sales but good %:
    $1.60
    $0.75
    $2.50
    $0.25    
    $0.35
    $0.25    
    $0.50
    $0.25    
    $0.75
    $0.75    
    $2.50
...

Checked my earnings. Since 3 months now my lowest earner. A few low earners outdated DT lol 

You can use the link:
m.shutterstock.com

This version is still in beta.

daily regular sales. is working fine here.

http://www.shutterstock.com/de/pic-385305055/stock-vector-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart-heart.html?src=aarskWmOLD8Q5bcVImmorg-1-1

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Quote from: Holmes on June 30, 2016, 07:58
here we go again... 

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