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Interesting but not surprising. Thanks for taking the effort to show a real world experiment!

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: August 28, 2023, 08:18 »
Another question is how long will it take for AI to get beyond the non-sense/inaccurate images? Could be that it will be "quick" or could be it will take a long time due to the way AI image generation works.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: August 23, 2023, 17:25 »
They may have to rename it the "AI-yai-yai" collection!  :)

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It's a little scary though. What if your not very skilled or knowledgeable regarding generating AI content and you didn't do anything intentionally problematic.  What if you are a new photographer and your pics are not in focus or have some other technical issue. Your photos won't get accepted...that's fine....but the analogous situation would be if AS accepted out of focus images but then later shut down your account.....because they didn't reject your out of focus photos in the first place?

Comparing not being able to produce images of high quality and therefore not getting your images accepted and breaking rules are completely different things.
There is no rule on Adobe that "forbids" you to submit images that are not in focus. There is now a rule that forbids you to submit AI images that are labaled as having used someone else's style. If you want to earn money with AI images it is YOR responsibility to read up about rules and restrictions both of the AI creator you are using and the agency you are submitting your images to. That's really the minimum of effort you have to take. "not being very knowledgeable" is no excuse, because the knowledge is out there, you have to read.

Valid points, but why would such an AI image pass inspection in the first place?...plus the rules are changing in real time.

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It's a little scary though. What if your not very skilled or knowledgeable regarding generating AI content and you didn't do anything intentionally problematic. Your account gets shut down? Shouldn't it be the inspectors job not to accept such content? What if you are a new photographer and your pics are not in focus or have some other technical issue. Your photos won't get accepted...that's fine....but the analogous situation would be if AS accepted out of focus images but then later shut down your account.....because they didn't reject your out of focus photos in the first place?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock generative AI reminders
« on: August 20, 2023, 12:36 »
Mat, that's really nice of you to get in touch with us on behalf of Adobe.


Very important:

But when will Adobe find a solution for the ridiculously long and annoying review times for non AI images?

This may (is likely?) to be a fluke, but I submitted an editorial image about a week ago and it was reviewed and approved overnight! I was shocked as most reviews were taking weeks.

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why doesn't Stocksy count?

Because there are only 3 votes. Also, Stocksy is a fairly closed agency like Getty....not anyone can contribute. There's nothing wrong with that of course. They charge high prices and get them which is great, but the reality is most people are not allowed to contribute.

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Shutterstock used to be number 1 the Poll Results, now they are number 3 (not counting Stocksy). That seems pretty straightforward and should washout any biases one way or the other.

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Based on the pole results, SS seems to be a sinking ship....not exactly sure why...maybe all the 10 cent royalties?

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Thanks! very interesting to hear actual real world experience.

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Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

On Midjourney it's 10$ (minimum) vs whatever you get from Adobe Stock and Dreamstime:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/37744/37744/msg590316/#msg590316

The plan pricing is confusing things like "3 jobs, 10 jobs waiting in queue". How does that translate into things like: "For $10 month, how many images can the user generate?"

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Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: AI again ...
« on: August 07, 2023, 08:14 »
As an interesting side note. Many times you can tell an AI image because things look too "smooth" (for lack of a better word). But I have also seen that actual photos that are over-processed can have this same look...they can look as if generated by AI.

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The month long waiting time for reviews is getting aggravating.

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Do the various AI companies maintain enough rights to the images generated by users that they could turn around and start competing with the stock agencies?

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Well from an income perspective, based on the chart at the right, SS has dropped to third place....maybe that goes hand in hand with how they are doing financially as a company.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Getty Video royalties change
« on: July 31, 2023, 21:45 »
You were 4 minutes faster than me :), so I deleted mine

link to announcement

https://app.engage.gettyimages.com/e/es?s=1591793372&e=16954364&elqTrackId=178baed6532740e59ffea78497faafe5&elq=66823723a6b34fadabcef297d5e11283&elqaid=56037&elqat=1&elqcst=272&elqcsid=25098

If i understand it correctly I will be getting a lot less for photos and slightly more for video??

We will see.

Exciting news, as always.

How is it that we will be getting "a lot less for photos"? Can you explain? Thanks!

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If you use MidJourney, is the agreement such that Midjourney could also upload all your output to the stock agencies and sell it themselves?

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Adobe Stock / Current Review Time for PNG
« on: July 19, 2023, 18:41 »
What's the current review time for PNG's at Adobe? I've had a file sitting in queue for 17 days.

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Like I said, the 8 fingers, 3 claws etcIMO are typical of ai. Which why for me it makes perfect sense to take it.

How, in any universe, is this a useful image of a roast turkey?



Or this of a boiled lobster?



There are lots and lots of this type of "mistakes of AI" - I'm not just cherry picking a few with flaws.

Or, if this type of could-easily-be-mistaken-for-real content is really important, then slap an overlay on them, like "EDITORIAL ONLY" or "PREMIUM" have. Otherwise it's a fast ticket to getting fired from your job for being mocked on social media instead of promoting whatever it was you were supposed to be pitching.

Good points. I believe AI will "get there" not making "mistakes", but it may take long enough to give AI images a really bad name among commercial users...enough so that they just avoid it and defer to using actual photographic imagery for quite some time.

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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

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Just got all my editorial photos and videos rejected for editorial caption.

I've written them the exact same way as i had been for many many years.

Example:
Valmeinier, France - Circa 2023:

 Does anyone know about any rule change?

I have always put a specific date, never "Circa xxxx"

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Ah yes, contributor fund it is!

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My current month earnings total is abou $30 higher than the detailed breakdown of downloads. Any ideas why?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: May 01, 2023, 07:54 »
I think it may depend on the type of content.

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