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« on: June 27, 2023, 05:32 »
Why are you going on a witch hunt against people or agencies that use ai?
I see many people singing the praises of AI... I only feel free to have my own opinions. An issue for you? do you live in a dictatorship? or would like to?
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« on: June 27, 2023, 05:19 »
If you know how to make money in stock, you will do it with any medium.
Sorry, but not me. And I am not the only one. I don't like Ai that makes the world smell too fake. Is it so hard for you to consider that not all the people do act the same way that you do?
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« on: June 27, 2023, 05:03 »
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« on: June 27, 2023, 04:57 »
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« on: June 25, 2023, 10:17 »
In short, do not hysteria.  
Psychiatrization is an easily accessible method for people who do not have the strength of arguments. You haven't proven anything in your post. Btw, it seems to be you shoot videos for stock, not photography or illustrations.
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« on: June 25, 2023, 08:44 »
What is confusing about the dog with girl picture?
who told that? I wrote what I wanted to mean. I think that most people understand it. And why is it more expressive than stock images???
This image sold on Adobe Stock is not a stock image? It depends on the customers you are targeting. For German customers you need a lot of caucasian turkish looking mix, for the usa maybe more black and caucasian and latin, for the uk a lot pakistani/indian origin mixed with the typical white brits, for france more northafrican, cauvasian white mix etc
Customers want content that represents their local community mix.
Otherwise your brand does not connect.
Therefore, you are looking for models of a certain color. And if a candidate does not have the right one, you tell him: "no thank you! you do not correspond to my search". Isn't that segregation? 
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« on: June 25, 2023, 07:51 »
The only thing that has changed is that now you see a lot more people of color in these photos, but they look staged as ever.
But why pay attention to the color of people? It's something I don't pay attention to. Should we do it? Should there be color quotas?
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« on: June 25, 2023, 06:56 »
Can ai be worse than free images?
Sure! here for example, where AI already manipulates your emotions. Nothing to do with Art here, but art of communication... The buyer will want this image, not your real photograph which will be considered less expressive... the references change and this (d)evolution will make the reproduced real tasteless, insipid, hard to sell. Do honesty, authenticity... have no future? Welcome to the brave fantastic/exciting new world.  https://stock.adobe.com/images/LetStandAgainstAI/611567956[Edit]: and the lazy contributor did not even checked/corrected the image he uploaded...
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« on: June 25, 2023, 05:11 »
The wind is rising!We must try to live! Paul valery/Miyazaki Hayao 
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« on: June 25, 2023, 04:14 »
We have already reached the point where people upload AI generated images and just claim they were their real photos. So how can human created art be valued more, when everyone thinks AI generated contend IS human created?
True, and even worse: every buyer can think that the reality based uploaded content that is stunning is AI generated... Truth is lost, real is discredited, the singularity of the human work is made invisible, acquired skill has become obsolete... The people who think great photos come by simply pressing the shutter button on the camera are people who certainly don't have photos that stand out among the top ones out of hundreds of thousands on an Adobe Stock query. And these are the people who are passionate about AI, easy to guess why...  Developing skills, staging in the real world, getting or waiting for the good conditions for natural light, manage the hazards when it comes to photographing the living, waiting for the perfect moment, managing/choosing the necessary equipment, etc... takes too much work and time to be competitive with AI. And the motivation of those who got the fair compensation for a job that requires time and skill disappears. My argument holds particularly for the photographers in whom I recognize a real talent, I am not self-centered and I will not speak of my gains in microstock as an argument of credibility. I've seen people do it, and I found it laughable. Humility has always been my engine to evolve, not an AI engine. The wind is rising!We must try to live! Paul valery/Miyazaki Hayao [Edit]: And I anticipate the reactions of AI enthusiasts: This is not about creating art, but about producing stock images that stand out. Buyers have needs that go beyond images of a pasta dish!
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« on: June 21, 2023, 05:11 »
I am happy to explore a new medium.
I create
If art is your big thing, why do stock?
I'm going to feel creative too next time, when I flush the toilet, since that's what happens when you press a button... End of story. I stop loosing time now.
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« on: June 21, 2023, 05:03 »
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« on: June 21, 2023, 04:38 »
I always remove broken texts unless it is complete artful gibberish or looks like an intentional alien language.
Minimal ethics. One should not be too satisfied to become one of the AI slaves... And avoid feeling like becoming an AIrtist...
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« on: June 19, 2023, 12:26 »
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« on: June 19, 2023, 12:24 »
Shutterstock seems a total haven for thieves. Shutterstock always suggests similar images or video clips, but somehow can't detect thieves uploading the same images or video clips. They should solve this problem.
They earn the same money, from honest and thieves. They don't care, and spending time to solve this would be a lost of time, i.e. money.
I asked one time long time ago to remove my files sold by thieves, they did nothing at all. They don't care. I understood I had to forget and that it was better to ignore how much times my files were stolen. Because it's very demotivating. And I stopped looking at tineye and google image, because it's a nightmare, so many dishonest people.
I know I loose money, I dont' want to loose my time too. A kind of "Angels' Share" (lol?) and it's difficult to fight against...
Yes, they earn the same money, but there is plenty of 'honest' content and no need to sell stolen stuff. I find it hard to believe that Shutterstock would risk their credibility with customers by not jumping on this quickly when it comes to light.
I'm talking about facts. And you?
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« on: June 19, 2023, 08:25 »
Shutterstock seems a total haven for thieves. Shutterstock always suggests similar images or video clips, but somehow can't detect thieves uploading the same images or video clips. They should solve this problem.
They earn the same money, from honest and thieves. They don't care, and spending time to solve this would be a lost of time, i.e. money. I asked one time long time ago to remove my files sold by thieves, they did nothing at all. They don't care. I understood I had to forget and that it was better to ignore how much times my files were stolen. Because it's very demotivating. And I stopped looking at tineye and google image, because it's a nightmare, so many dishonest people. I know I loose money, I dont' want to loose my time too. A kind of "Angels' Share" (lol?) and it's difficult to fight against...
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« on: June 19, 2023, 05:12 »
So how is it going guys? Is there anyone still trying to submit real photos and can share some insights? I already have another batch of several hundred photos to be added, but I am afraid of getting all of them rejected and wasting my time. Is it still the same as in last couple of weeks?
I do real photogaphy, and I am not used to submit snapshots. So, I stopped submitting my best selected work to Adobe stock for now. Because of the last rejections that prove disrespect and contemp form Adobe.
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« on: June 14, 2023, 13:45 »
The Lobster ist fantastic! I would use this and enjoy all the comments and interactions you can get from using that.
The Lobster is fantas plastic! There are lots and lots of this type of "mistakes of AI"...
AI IS mistake People who take photographs never count the number of fingers, one would have to wonder why this should happen now. getting fired from your job for being mocked on social media
Fantastic then! the opportunity for that person to go back to real organic and true life!
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« on: June 14, 2023, 13:42 »
The question is (and now we are just at the beginning with AI) if photos, vectors and videos will be replaced by AI or not.
The next question is, if not, are your photos, vectors or videos findable between this garbage?
SVH, everytime you post, I add +1
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« on: June 14, 2023, 11:06 »
Doesn't an agency have some responsibility to weed out this type of "mistaken" content?
In any case, the agency makes no effort to do so. Probably also related to the automation of validation process. As I already said in antother thread, I think it's our relationship to real, natural, logical, truth, beauty, memory, history that is challenged.
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« on: June 14, 2023, 08:43 »
I'm sure it takes certain amount of talent to find and push the "generate" button but to make the debate shorter just take a look of what these people did before their AI content. There's an abyss between before and after
It is funny watching self professed prompt gurus write essays on the Midjourney Discord with incredibly flowery prompts and get results indistinguishable from the next person who uses a couple of words.
As long as you can write a sentence, take a few minutes to look at what other people have used and spend a bit of time learning the basic commands you can tailor results as much as anyone. You can produce results as good as anyone else right away, and tailor the results to whatever style want after an afternoon's practice.
If this wasnt the case it would be a huge failure of Midjourney. The whole point of it is to allow people get results with basic prompts. And lets not forget you can now feed it images and get a descriptive prompt, reverse engineering a prompt to get similar results.
Yes, it's like eating vomit, then vomiting again. Reverse vomiting produces a new vomit oh sorry for my particular humour which may offend these self-proclaimed artist teleprompters, which before the use of AI only produced visual crap. They now think they are Picasso. It also reminds me of modern music, where the sound produced by the remixed singer voice evokes in me the idea of digital vomit. I think this metaphor is the correct one. It can occur following a massive ingestion, and it arises expeditiously. It is not very appetizing and is particularly repellent. But when the sheeps have nothing but vomit to eat, they won't find it too bad. Imagine the dunce of the class who discovers chatGPT, uses it, proudly declares: "I wrote it myself", and who ends up being convinced of it himself. It's very hard to get rid of vom AIt...
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« on: June 14, 2023, 04:32 »
It takes time before new images emerge from the batch, are visible and therefore purchased, because of the algorithms. But once the inertia is overcome, the huge AI army will inevitably do huge damage to sales.
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« on: June 13, 2023, 07:05 »
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I dont understand these rejection rules and how a reviewer (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.
But... rest assured, Adobe is thinking about a mode of compensation for contributors who suffer unfair rejection of their beautiful photos which required so much talent, time and work from them.
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« on: June 13, 2023, 04:11 »
I dont understand Adobe stock strategy Real human artists goodbye or welcome?
They look away from anything that doesn't concern their financial interest, universal business rule.
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« on: June 13, 2023, 02:48 »
Topic: 9 Million+ AI generated photos
10 Millions+ now. This is the end Hold your breath and count to ten Feel the earth move and then Hear my heart burst again For this is the end I've drowned and dreamed this moment So overdue, I owe them Swept away, I'm stolen Let the sky fall, when it crumbles...
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