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« on: December 12, 2023, 14:19 »
I'd asked how images could be rejected seconds after being uploaded - here's 'Ivy's response
The Canva Content team aims to build a diverse and expansive library where users would be able to find the most amazing and relevant images they can use for their every designing need. While we appreciate the artistic mind and tireless efforts our contributors put in every image they submit to us, we need to ensure they pass our quality guidelines.
We've reviewed your most recent image submission and found that most of them do not adhere to the Canva image quality standards. Based on overall artistic appeal, usability and technical quality, we are unable to accept them into the library.
You may refer to our Contributor Quality Guidelines for Photos and Graphics for your reference.
I'm now closing this for now, but feel free to reach out should you have another question or concern. We'd be more than happy to help!
We appreciate your understanding.
of course they didnt answer my basic question
in addition, i pointed out those guidelines didnt contain anything relevant to image contributors
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« on: December 11, 2023, 14:14 »
i knew it was hopeless but i asked 'support' (when i finally found the hidden link) why all are being rejected & i got the ridiculous answer that they were rejected for quality!
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« on: December 09, 2023, 18:37 »
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Canva is an Australian business and should not have to deduct USA witholding tax.
I am concerned that the email from Canva suggests that this US witholding tax will be withheld in addition to the 15% Australian witholding tax they already apply. That doesn't sound right given the double taxation treaty between Australia and the USA. One must be offset against the other.
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just completed the new canva requirements (took about 10') the actual W-9 form on the canva site allows selection of 0% withholding
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« on: December 06, 2023, 12:37 »
we're hoping to join Oregon & BC to form the new country of Cascadia
Didn't parts of Oregon consider merging with ID? Don't think it passed in the end.
there've been many proposals, such as a southern OR Northern Cal state of Jefferson, but nothing serious
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« on: December 05, 2023, 13:41 »
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If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.
I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ... this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies). In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.
in US we can choose whether to have US tax withheld or not. this also applies when we're selling stock, redeeming retirement funds, etc. No problem as long as taxes are calculated properly at the end of the year. none of my US based agencies withhold taxes and there's no reaso for canva to do so
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« on: December 05, 2023, 13:37 »
This doesn't sound right at all. US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.
US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.
withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup
hatman the double tax treaty between Australia and the USA is 5% ... each country has its own tax treaty, if no tax treaty is in place then the withholding tax is 30%.
Steve I am guessing you are in the USA. For companies that are based in the USA as a foreign contributor the IRS requires forms to be completed. This then determines the amount of tax withheld. If no form is completed then they will take 30% in tax. 0% is not an option.
If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.
I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ... this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies). In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.
Steve is from Seattle thus not part of the States anymore lol!
we're hoping to join Oregon & BC to form the new country of Cascadia
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« on: December 03, 2023, 10:59 »
This doesn't sound right at all. US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.
US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.
withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup
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« on: December 01, 2023, 12:09 »
.... You are better off carefully curating your collection and choosing only the very best of each batch to submit.
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sure, but which of our images is the best?- if i have 10 images from a shoot (no similars) no one can predict which is the 'best' based on sales, and several/most of that batch will have sales. in addition, having a series leads to multiples sales from the same buyer (mostly on other sites with less stringent similars policies) even if thery wouldn't show up in a search that said, the application of the similars policy has improved over the past year esp'ly when approving a batch which formerly would have been rejected as similars just because they were in the same series.
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« on: December 01, 2023, 11:58 »
I got an email tell me I needed to do the W8BEN form, I have sent an email to Canva support asking why I needed to do that form. As an Australian and Canva is supposedly an Australian company, I should not have to pay the IRS anything, as the way I understand it that is for USA based companies and foreign based contributors. My tax obligations are to Australia. Still waiting for a sensible explanation.
They said this in the email "We recently updated the Contributor Agreement regarding requirements to meet global regulatory requirements. Starting April 1, 2024, Creator payouts will be subject to additional US royalties withholding tax applied to the US-sourced portion of your income."
I know they have opened an office in the USA but a clear explanation is needed. Something that Canva seems incapable of providing.
they shouldn't automatically withhold US tax, especially as many US self-employed don't have anything withheld from all the US based agencies
360
« on: November 30, 2023, 17:29 »
just uploaded 2 batches of 49 - all but 1 rejected immediately - enuf of this nonsense with no reaction from Danny - no more uploads until they get this fixed (dont know why it took me so long)
361
« on: November 30, 2023, 12:51 »
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If I now have a rare, unrivaled landscape image or an object in my portfolio, the AI has no choice but to copy it too 
sounds like you have a great experiment awaitin'
362
« on: November 29, 2023, 12:30 »
eta
...then I am just adjusting the clothes a bit, changing out the sky, removing the glasses, changing the hairstyle...
Yes, I have also exchanged skies. For many years now. But it was always a sky that I photographed myself. I've never used a sky from one of your photos. That wasn't allowed either.
And that's exactly what the AI providers get around. Without paying a single cent for it. Why are you not allowed to use elements from other people's images, but AI is? Can you explain why?...
one more time -- i don't know your specific knowledge, but, in general, complaints about being victimized show an underlying ignorance of how these models work. -- AI does not use ANY elements from images when creating new images - in an entirely separate process it trains on billions of images to create its dataset. when creating a new image (which may take millions of steps) it no longer has access to the original hundreds of millions of images it used in training. there are many descriptions, of varying detail, on how this actually works - posted frequently here & available online, so there's really no excuse for continuing to promote this false idea.
the completely separate argument is whether there should be any payment for images to be used in training, but no one has been able to show that pieces of their image shows up in a new creation
To say it right away: I don't have any specific knowledge because I haven't experimented with AI yet. In this respect, I agree with you.
So I can only try to draw conclusions from what I can see.
Maybe I really don't understand the working principle of AI software.
But, if it were as you say, that AI does NOT use ANY elements from existing images, how can it be explained that, for example
- the Apple logo
- the Apple mouse
- the iMac
- the keyboard
- the Mercedes star
and so many other elements can be seen unchanged from the original in the images? Then why doesn't the AI "design" a new Apple or Mercedes logo, a different foot of the iMac, a new mouse etc.? I see here exactly the design features of Apple (material/color, radii, shapes, etc.).
And, if it is as seen here, who can rule out that elements from your and my pictures appear 1:1 in other pictures.
If you have a link that helps me to understand this, I would be grateful.
i was referring to knowledge about how ML works, not specific experience with using AI this has been discussed many times - here's another example: Interestingly, it obviously copies quite a bit as they were also including watermarks with the images they produce. Might risk sounding like a broken record, but: The AIs sometimes generated images that have something resembling microstock agency watermarks, because they have been trained with so many watermarked (unlicensed!) images that they wrongly learned that the watermark was part of whatever it was supposed to generate. When an AI generates a watermark, it "thinks" it belongs in the picture like a suit to a businessman or the sun to a picture of a sunny sky. It's an issue of wrong learning, not an issue of copying. It recreates the watermark, just like it re-creates the sun or a suit. It cannot understand that the watermark is not part of whatever it is supposed to depict. If an AI was capable of thinking/realizing that whatever it is creating in images was actually something that exists in the offline world, then it would think that people walk around with floating watermarks in front of them.
I start to think that many people do not really understand what an AI is. Artificial intelligence. It's not a computer programm that copy & pastes stuff. It is a program that has learning abilities. It gets input and it learns from it. Give it the wrong input and it will learn to create wrong results.
thus trademarks appear not because these are copied from a particular image but because many images contain those TM, the TM becomes part of its knowledge of what a computer looks like. it extracts info & stores it in a different format so after training it doesn't know anything about the original images. https://nanonets.com/blog/machine-learning-image-processing/#working-of-machine-learning-image-processing gives a quick overview of what's involved. even at this high level it requires some mathematical knowledge which likely explains why so many posting here misunderstand what's happening, and why they wrongly think AI is taking parts of their images directly to create new images. and to return to your question And, if it is as seen here, who can rule out that elements from your and my pictures appear 1:1 in other pictures.that's asking to prove a negative; instead one needs to show that the claim actually occurred. it's another example of a misunderstanding the actual process
363
« on: November 28, 2023, 16:19 »
eta
Anyone taking any bets how long it will take OP and others to fully embrace ai??
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it's evolution in action - some will never adapt & will need to find other income streams.
364
« on: November 28, 2023, 16:17 »
eta
...then I am just adjusting the clothes a bit, changing out the sky, removing the glasses, changing the hairstyle...
Yes, I have also exchanged skies. For many years now. But it was always a sky that I photographed myself. I've never used a sky from one of your photos. That wasn't allowed either.
And that's exactly what the AI providers get around. Without paying a single cent for it. Why are you not allowed to use elements from other people's images, but AI is? Can you explain why?...
one more time -- i don't know your specific knowledge, but, in general, complaints about being victimized show an underlying ignorance of how these models work. -- AI does not use ANY elements from images when creating new images - in an entirely separate process it trains on billions of images to create its dataset. when creating a new image (which may take millions of steps) it no longer has access to the original hundreds of millions of images it used in training. there are many descriptions, of varying detail, on how this actually works - posted frequently here & available online, so there's really no excuse for continuing to promote this false idea. the completely separate argument is whether there should be any payment for images to be used in training, but no one has been able to show that pieces of their image shows up in a new creation
365
« on: November 28, 2023, 15:59 »
I can't confirm this for myself, my income situation was relatively constant in this period.
However, I have to admit that with over 1000 uploads I would have expected an increase over the year, especially as the new pictures are doing quite well.
same here, 3 mo running average stable over last 3 years. RPD $.6 to .8 and still 2-3x AS income
366
« on: November 25, 2023, 05:21 »
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What if there was at some point some AI that you could train on only your own photos?
realizing you were proposing a hypothetical, but it's not possible with this category of AI generators, since it takes millions of images to learn this is different from the examples posed which are using a very narrow subject, but it's still AI that needs to be trained. that's where the lines of ai gen blur - already we see this with whether Ai content aware fill for small spaces is considered differently from creating entire new backgrounds. and, eg, the avatar creators are really more lke a police sketch artist - it combines pre-existing characteristics to create a new avatar.
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« on: November 23, 2023, 09:14 »
People still use typewriters. Phonographs are antique items that can go for thousands of dollars. People pay tens of thousands of dollars for vintage mint 1960's movie posters. People make careers of trying to find relics from thousands of years ago, and t.v. shows are made about their exploits.....
so all we have to do is wait 50 - 2000 years and our phots will sell again? most of your examples are of the value of antiques & vintage materials, not examples of oldtecholgies surviving.
where are the televisions with tubes? who uses adding machines or word processors? where are the punchcard operators? who plays games on atari ? who uses TRS80 or appe II?
Hehe.
a) Word processors - I still use one. You mean like MSWord, etc?
b) Actually atari games/c-64/etc are nostalgia items, and haha I actually know people that do. Those games have also been repackaged into vintage stand-up arcade style games - they sell well.
c) Television with tubes - collectors....
i was referring to standalone, single purpose, word-processor machines (Wang) that didnt conect to anything else, obviously not software you qualify each of your other examples as 'collectors like them' which is beside the point as those numbers are so small. and those items exist in small quantity - not fungible as stock photography is comics are a great example - those from the 40-50s can go for large sums, but those from the 70s & on sell for less than their cover price - due to #printed and number of hopeful 'collectors' who thought they might be valuable some day.
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« on: November 18, 2023, 05:26 »
People still use typewriters. Phonographs are antique items that can go for thousands of dollars. People pay tens of thousands of dollars for vintage mint 1960's movie posters. People make careers of trying to find relics from thousands of years ago, and t.v. shows are made about their exploits.....
so all we have to do is wait 50 - 2000 years and our phots will sell again? most of your examples are of the value of antiques & vintage materials, not examples of oldtecholgies surviving. where are the televisions with tubes? who uses adding machines or word processors? where are the punchcard operators? who plays games on atari ? who uses TRS80 or appe II?
369
« on: November 12, 2023, 04:55 »
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?
Upscaling is just making your image larger. Never been a problem - if the resolution is good enough. Have been used since the beginning of photography.
i use topaz giga ai to upscale - it does more than just make a bigger picture. i've been working thru my older images - both scanned slides & early digital. i use topaz photo ai, then upscale if needed. only other work needed is occ'l minor rotation for horizon. results have been almost always accepted
370
« on: November 07, 2023, 08:38 »
... I tried my luck again with 100 backgrounds (made with camera and not with AI) and within 2 seconds (looked at the clock) 94 were rejected and I don't even see a rejection reason - but how to add a rejection reason in 2 seconds too ;-)
In an upload before that, about 20 of 150 images had come at least after "in review" - 2 days later these 18 were also rejected -> rejection rate 99%.
And no, I upload there only things that were accepted on the relevant agencies without major problems.
Sorry to hear that! I've sent you a PM, would love to take a look 
... Danny - this has been going on for months - almost all of anybatch is reject almost before they're submitted! the few that get thru take a day or more for an actual review - so something non-human seems to be at work here. meanwhile these images are accepted elsewhere -- realizing canva has different needs/reqs, but nothing so drastic as what's happening in addition my portfolio lost 1400 images in may then and despite uploasding hundreds of imagers since then only 2 or 3 images acceptedf per batch aand overall a net loss of another 60 since may meanwhile i had 2500 accepted by SS and over 600 by AS (with 500 waiting for review)
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« on: October 27, 2023, 18:46 »
@derby
just out of curiosity,were the rejected batches real images or AI?
i've had multiple entire batches of photos rejected over last few months
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« on: October 25, 2023, 16:05 »
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« on: October 25, 2023, 12:38 »
personally I'm taking it as calmly as possible,3 billion images have been generated since Firefly went online,so if we add up all the other AI we arrive at astronomical figures,and we are only at the beginning.
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where do we find those stats? how many are submitted to agencies - obviously not all to AS
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« on: October 24, 2023, 15:39 »
the problem isnt just the long review times - it's random chance of review - many here reporting reviews of a week while others have images stewing for months.
i recently had a handful of images rejected (for the usual vague 'quality' reasons) that were submitted about a week ago, while many others (including AIM) have been there for 2 months
maybe it depends on the quantity you send,I never have such long times,a couple of weeks max,because I send about a thousand contents in a year.
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while i've had over 700 images accepted at SS over the last 2 months, i've limited my uploads to AS to 50-100 per week. I continued to upload in order to get in line for the long review times. meanwhile i have only had a few rejections since the end of august but none approved since then either. worse, the system still rejects ai-gen for lack of model release -- it just rejected a series sent a month ago - and when you click to re-submit, it shows it knows the image is ai-gen but now has an addtl box to click that says "people here are fictional" and even worser, after making the changes, and saving or submitting again (the prompts vary!) nothing happens - the image doesnt show up in 'new' or 'submitted' [i've send a msg to suppoort]
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