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701
« on: January 05, 2024, 12:45 »
And then welcome to the annual reset?  Photographer vs Annual Reset.Sisyphus is punished in the underworld by the god Zeus, who forces him to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity. Every time he nears the top of the hill, the boulder rolls back down. Now you see that the Greeks irony and view of death, as the world of the dead is the scene of fruitless labours. To me this is similar to the meaning of Microstock. Or at least how working for years and years, the rewards have become less, the residuals are lower, income doesn't have any stability.
702
« on: January 05, 2024, 12:19 »
AS may figure we make enough each year thus don't need the free program anymore
FYI Salary: Stock Photography (January, 2024) United States
ZipRecruiter
https://www.ziprecruiter.com Salaries Stock-Photo...
As of Dec 27, 2023, the average annual pay for a Stock Photography in the United States is $62,338 a year.
Wait, they made that claim? Maybe they included Jon and the stockholders of the agencies? I looked elsewhere and the numbers are for photographers in California, but ZR also claims good numbers locally. Really? I have experience.  They also say, "No Experience Wedding Photographer $99,199 $8,266 $1,907 $47.69" And a strong stomach. There are fringe benefits, such as free beer and cake and lots of people dressed up for a good time. On Topic again. I lost one of the codes. Last two years I decided to add them as I could. I'm good until 2025. Nice to be ahead and I look forward to those CC subscriptions to software I don't use. But some day I might? I can't see how every year, someone will complain about what we get for free? Photography Plan (20GB storage) Monthly: US $9.99, which means if any of us was paying, that would be $119.88 a year. They give us $119 a year, for doing what we would do already, and people complain?
703
« on: January 04, 2024, 13:50 »
based on previous years it's too early for any announcement - last year's was late Feb(?) and credits in early March (?) - dates may be off by a week or so
i won a bet last year against those who thought the program would be canceled - anyone want to take the bet this year & buy me a few americanos?
Nope, I bet with you that sometimes we need to be patient and wait until we get the news, before predicting it. Feb. 3rd last year, Mat said: If you had between 250-5,999 downloads during the calendar year, you qualified to receive a complimentary code for one-year plan from these options: Creative Cloud Photography (20GB), Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere Pro, or After Effects.
If you had 6,000 or more downloads in 2022, you qualified to receive a complimentary code for an Adobe Creative Cloud All Apps one year plan.
Only contributors active in 2022 are eligible for the bonus. To be considered active, you must have uploaded and had approved a minimum of 20 new assets in the calendar year, 2022.
Please note that video downloads are equal to 3 downloads in consideration of the bonus program qualification. I added the bold because every year the same question comes up, What is active? 20 is hardly a big number?
704
« on: January 03, 2024, 11:37 »
Even though this is old, it's worth reading, in my opinion.
Sep. 26, 2023 5:23 AM ETGetty Images Holdings, Inc. (GETY) StockGOOG, MSFT, BIDU, NVDA, META, BABA, GOOGL
By: Ravikash, SA News Editor
Getty Images (NYSE:GETY) on Monday launched a generative artificial intelligence, or AI, tool which will produce images from the company's content library.
The model called Generative AI by Getty Images, is trained on the Edify model architecture, which is part of Nvidia's (NVDA) NVIDIA Picasso, a foundry for generative AI models for visual design.
The company said the AI tool is trained only from Getty Images' creative library, including exclusive premium content, with full indemnification for commercial use.
In addition, contributors will be compensated for any inclusion of their content in the training set, according to the company.
Earlier this year, Getty which holds rights to millions of images filed a lawsuit in the U.S. against Stability AI, developers of AI image generator Stable Diffusion, for allegedly using images without consent.
"We've created a service that allows brands and marketers to safely embrace AI and stretch their creative possibilities, while compensating creators for inclusion of their visuals in the underlying training sets," said Grant Farhall, Chief Product Officer at Getty.
Getty added that customers will soon be able to customize the AI tool with proprietary data to produce images with their unique brand style and language. However, this and other service advancements will be added later this year.
The AI tool will not use the company's news photo collection, part of an effort to prevent the generation of deepfakes, Bloomberg News reported citing, Getty's CEO Craig Peters.
Generative AI services have taken the world by storm, since the launch of Microsoft (MSFT)-backed OpenAI's ChatGPT. The different types of large language models, or LLMs, which can provide services such as content and image generation, to name a few, are being used globally. However, there also have been questions about whether the tools benefit from the work of artists, authors, and photographers.
Earlier this month, OpenAI was sued in a New York federal court by a number of authors, including George R.R. Martin and John Grisham over alleged copyright infringement.
Besides Getty's lawsuit against Stability AI, several artists have also sued services including Stable Diffusion and Midjourney, according to the Bloomberg report.
Earlier In September, Microsoft reportedly said it would defend buyers of its AI products from copyright infringement suits, in an effort to allay concerns customers may have about using its generated content based on existing work.
Companies globally have launched their own LLMs. Baidu's (BIDU) Ernie Bot, Alibaba's (BABA) Tongyi Qianwen and Tongyi Wanxiang, Alphabet's unit (GOOG) (GOOGL) Google's Bard, OpenAI's upcoming text-to-image AI tool DALLE 3, Meta Platforms' (META) AudioCraft, SeamlessM4T, and Llama 2, are some of them.
"Earlier In September, Microsoft reportedly said it would defend buyers of its AI products from copyright infringement suits, in an effort to allay concerns customers may have about using its generated content based on existing work."
705
« on: January 02, 2024, 11:58 »
I'm reminded of scams that offer real estate that the seller doesn't actually own. (Probably not the case in this particular post, maybe?)
Hey! Theres no proof Im not Ansel Adams.
Except he is deceased?  And you are not...
706
« on: January 01, 2024, 14:49 »
Just want to wish everyone and every subber contributor a very happy reset.
May you be excited and incentivized on happy reset day. 
Welcome back to 2021 
707
« on: December 31, 2023, 14:16 »
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What everyone else agrees about is, you will be selling all future rights to your images, that are in this sale, forever and you can't ever use or do anything with them.
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depends on the terms of the contract - buyer could grant a license to use the images as you wish (except, of course, uploading to a stock agency since you no longer have copyright)
True, thus, a contract and a lawyer. It's not as easy as yes or no. All types of questions and complications. I would answer one easy part though. Yes it is possible.
708
« on: December 31, 2023, 14:11 »
Is it transformative?
Wikipedia:
The transformative nature of computer based analytical processes such as text mining, web mining and data mining has led many to form the view that such uses would be protected under fair use. This view was substantiated by the rulings of Judge Denny Chin in Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc., a case involving mass digitisation of millions of books from research library collections. As part of the ruling that found the book digitisation project was fair use, the judge stated "Google Books is also transformative in the sense that it has transformed book text into data for purposes of substantive research, including data mining and text mining in new areas"
Text and data mining was subject to further review in Authors Guild v. HathiTrust, a case derived from the same digitization project mentioned above. Judge Harold Baer, in finding that the defendant's uses were transformative, stated that 'the search capabilities of the [HathiTrust Digital Library] have already given rise to new methods of academic inquiry such as text mining."
I'm pointing this out as New York Times is trying to make the same claim as the two above, that already have decisions, in favor of fair use. Sometimes a case like this would be refused and not heard, as it has already been decided in the past.
709
« on: December 31, 2023, 13:45 »
Hello Friends,
Can I sell my portfolio of 5k stock images to someone for a lumpsum price and remove it from my portfolio so they can sell it?
I am asking this question because I am thinking to flip my assets for urgent cash in return?
Thanks!
How many agencies or just one? As others have pointed out, you would need to transfer your entire account, with permission from the agency or agencies, otherwise how does the buyer know that the images will be approved? You need at the very least, A) permission from the agency and B) a lawyer to write up the contract. Any model released images or property releases? What everyone else agrees about is, you will be selling all future rights to your images, that are in this sale, forever and you can't ever use or do anything with them. This is not easy. If you have a good record, maybe contact the agency and see if they want to buy you out and take over ownership? Good Luck!
710
« on: December 28, 2023, 12:31 »
I don't really know but I query if in the process of doing this it converts to an unsupported codec?
All of my recent videos from the Pocket 2, when I removed the card and copied them, come up as unreadable codec, I can't open, edit or play them on anything. I assume I did something wrong.
H.265 ?
Pocket 2 is this osmo Pocket 2?
Yes, OSMO pocket 2, which is nice and pocket size and just around when I'm on a trip or happened to have it with me. Sometimes they work, sometimes when I copy the files, they "go bad". I'll check the settings and see if I have fixed FPS as you have suggested. The most logical conclusions is, the cause is something I'm doing wrong.
711
« on: December 28, 2023, 12:25 »
Just think, in 2024 we can have this discussion again about some more of the bottom feeder agencies?
712
« on: December 28, 2023, 12:03 »
Orthodox Christians celebrate New Years on January 14th.
No, its only Russians who celebrate Christmas on January 7th and like New Year on January 14th. Although in fact Russian orcs celebrate 2 new years, it is January 1st and 14th. Russians are a nation of genetic slaves and alcoholics. Therefore, any perversion is possible in the Russian empire.
There are several other countries that are under the influence and control of Russian Na.zis and the Russian Church (a branch of the KGB). These countries also celebrate Christmas on January 7th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
Just out of interest.
Isn't it very exhausting in the long run if you're always trying to bend your own opinion to suit yourself, which fundamentally contradicts others?
Even Jesus and religion are not safe from your interpretations 
Ralf, while his interpretation is extreme, it is factually true that not all orthodox people celebrate Christmas in January.
Greeks, Romanians, Bulgarians, the very important Patriarchate of Constantinople, the Metropolis of Basarabia/Moldova (the Church of Ukraine starting this year) and other smaller orthodox Churches have adopted December 25th as their Christmas, some more than 100 years ago.
It is true that also in this case, the russians have influenced many Western opinions and assumptions, by calling Moscow "The 3rd Rome" and claiming that they speak in the name of the entire Orthodoxy.
Rather than point at the Russians as the only ones, I will say, it depends one what calendar any culture decides to use. Just happens that there are differences in the Julian and Gregorian calendars, what the day is. In other words, January 14th is the same date, just a different calculation, based on Bible dates, compensating for the different calendar. And I'll point out that adopting a date, has nothing to do with the original point, that no one knows the factual date that JC was born. We have agreed upon dates, that the church uses and people have adopted. Some changed their celebrations only 100 years ago. Some in other periods, and some have decided to stick with the old date. These are not absolutes and many parts are opinions and variations, no one has the one true answer. The guy who owned my last office building, went to church on Saturday, he was a Christian. His church believed that the Bible said, the sabbath day was Saturday. Happy New Year everyone.
713
« on: December 28, 2023, 11:50 »
you beat me to, it - i was about to, post this, too -- looks like a major case that may lead to a legal conclusion though I distrust the ability of knowledge-deficient judges to really understand the issues involved (much like the copyright office's decision
i've been reading Wolfram(of Mathematica fame) on how ChatGPT works (available a on Kindle Unlimited for free)
https://www.amazon.com/What-ChatGPT-Doing-Does-Work-ebook/dp/B0BY59PT5Z
it gets complicated quickly and he explains why there is no connection between training and generation since the process from source to dataset is not commutative.
like MJ et al., the data used for training is massive (even NYTimes huge content is dwarfed by several orders of magnitude). it should come down whether the scraping amounts to fair use.
however, there are some significant differences from AI-gen images as the Timmes alleges wholesale reproduction of significant quantities of text by chatGPT - something no one ah as been able to show re AI-image generation.
Yes and I agree, there is no connection between training and generation since the process from source to dataset is not commutative but still these cases have to be decided. When reading more of the background, the fair use has already been decided in the past. NYT is trying to make the same claim that has already been defeated. A second bite at the same arguments. I understand their point, that copying and using, is not transformative, if the original data is then repeated. NYT says, bits of information are traceable directly to their articles and publications. In past cases, like the one from photographers in CA, the claimants have not been able to show direct copying and use in the output. They need to prove a connection from the training data, directly to the output results. That hasn't happened yet.
714
« on: December 28, 2023, 11:41 »
from uncle pete
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ny-times-sues-openai-microsoft-for-infringing-copyrighted-works/ar-AA1m75sX?ocid=00000000&pc=U528&cvid=36cdc2530ee347549955a4670eb08328&ei=17
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Times sued OpenAI and Microsoft on Wednesday, accusing them of using millions of the newspaper's articles without permission to help train chatbots to provide information to readers.
The newspaper's complaint, filed in Manhattan federal court, accused OpenAI and Microsoft of trying to "free-ride on The Times's massive investment in its journalism" by using it to provide alternative means to deliver information to readers.
"There is nothing 'transformative' about using The Times's content without payment to create products that substitute for The Times and steal audiences away from it," the Times said.
The case is New York Times Co v Microsoft Corp et al, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 23-11195.
Yes, I should post these here not where I did. 👍 The important part of these cases is Fair Use claimed by the scraping of data vs the copyrights of the people who create the original data.
715
« on: December 27, 2023, 14:10 »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ny-times-sues-openai-microsoft-for-infringing-copyrighted-works/ar-AA1m75sX?ocid=00000000&pc=U528&cvid=36cdc2530ee347549955a4670eb08328&ei=17NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Times sued OpenAI and Microsoft on Wednesday, accusing them of using millions of the newspaper's articles without permission to help train chatbots to provide information to readers.
The newspaper's complaint, filed in Manhattan federal court, accused OpenAI and Microsoft of trying to "free-ride on The Times's massive investment in its journalism" by using it to provide alternative means to deliver information to readers.
"There is nothing 'transformative' about using The Times's content without payment to create products that substitute for The Times and steal audiences away from it," the Times said.The case is New York Times Co v Microsoft Corp et al, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 23-11195.
716
« on: December 27, 2023, 13:51 »
I don't really know but I query if in the process of doing this it converts to an unsupported codec?
All of my recent videos from the Pocket 2, when I removed the card and copied them, come up as unreadable codec, I can't open, edit or play them on anything. I assume I did something wrong.
717
« on: December 27, 2023, 13:45 »
Jesus was a Jew!
Even more: a circumcised Jew! Imagine that! 😄
Luke 2:21: And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
Yes, he grew up in a Jewish family and was raised as a Jew. But was he a Jew? If you believe religion and historical facts, then he can hardly be called a Jew.
You are a Zero Talent atheist.
Yes he was born in Bethlehem, no wait he was from Nazareth? He didn't like the way things were done and eventually preached his own ideas. None of this has anything to do with being an atheist, or anti anything. Facts: JC was born Jewish and practiced first-century Judaism religion. Jesus' dominant religious influence was Judaism, as he grew up in a Jewish environment and regularly attended synagogue worship. Jesus mainly preached in line with Judaism and borrowed teachings from the Mosaic Laws and the Hebrew Bible. Many Orthodox Christians annually celebrate Christmas Day on or near January 7 to remember JC's birth, described in the Christian Bible. Real history, is well accepted by scholars and Judaeo-Christians, theologians, and philosophers. Educated people who can go beyond their narrow beliefs or extremist diversions. The New Testament and the Old share stories, wisdom and holiday dates, with the Pagans, Germanic tribes, Celts, Norse, Natives around the world, and many other groups. There is nothing exclusive, and hardly anything original. Before writing, these same stories were told in the oral tradition, and spread through civilization. R E L A X please? For those who celebrate today, Merry Christmas! For everyone, may your Winter be warmed by friendship and love. (Except you Australians complaining about the heat, go tan or something)
Thank you for the good wishes and starting the thread. Merry, Happy, Whatever, to everyone and and especially a fruitful New Year, whenever yours might be. The year 2080 will begin on April 13 for Nepal. Ethiopias New Year is on the 12th of September. In South America, the Andean New Year, is celebrated in mid-June. And the one I'm surer people here have already started creating and uploading? Chinese New Year 2024 is, 4722 on our, Saturday February 10, the Year of the Dragon. Orthodox Christians celebrate New Years on January 14th. Best one, it's Mayan 13.0.11.3.8 Yes most of the world, is January 1st.
718
« on: December 26, 2023, 12:15 »
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Short sighted if they expect AI training to go on forever. Once used, it's not needed. Oh wait, that's our side, one use or two and done.
New training, maybe, and that's why everything rejected, they tried to slot over into Data Catalog so they could sell it for AI, without putting it up on the standard site. WE feed the data beast that's eating our income?
they don't necessarily sell training, they sell already trained datasets others can use - i'd expect these would be subsets of the main one - eg, medical, architectural, etc
as far as pumping the data library, i've found most 'eligible' are n not my best images (those are approved), but 'not quite' similars that would otherwise rejected. it's not in their best interest to inflate the training set as they'll lose sales from those items, versus the small income per individual image among millions.
Ah, and then we get our .03 when they license that specialized set? Hey when is the next exciting and much anticipated, Contributor Fund report coming? If they are concentrating on data sales and sets, where's our slice of the pie? I opted out of the data library, as all I saw what everything rejected, went into that. I wasn't going to count on the pennies adding up from those rejects. I mean, not good enough to sell, but good enough to license a data?
719
« on: December 26, 2023, 12:06 »
Well said, Uncle Pete!
Just some historical bits, which always amused me. Some of that comes from science and archaeology interests. Native Americans had wood circles, poles, that traced the movements of the Sun and Moon. There are the more obvious, the Mayan's, the Egyptians and of course much of the more popular Neolithic people from the UK. Almost every culture has the flood story. Bits of religion from one to another are shared and traded. Oh or embraced and adopted, what people now are offended by, cultural appropriation. No one owns the seasons, the Moon, the tilt of the Earth, or the Sun. But it seems like the obvious, with no books, no tv, no writing, and back to the time when people were making tools by banging rocks together, the sky and the season, were the most important source of observation, as well as critical to life. Religion, whatever someone chooses, is based on the wisdom of the tribe. It's how knowledge was shared. Yes, they didn't say the Earth was round, but well before the early navigators set out to dispel false fears and assumptions, the ancients saw the obvious that the shadow of a stick, traced a line, as the Sun moved. And they knew that everything was circular and round, not flat. Ethnocentrism just taught, we are the center of the universe. That doesn't make it a fact. And Santa Sloth is real, he brought me gifts last night. I don't want to hear from all you evil skeptics. I know he's real! I got a box of chocolates and a hand blown race car ornament for the tree. Proof!  Uncle Pete, you are an atheist. Are you denying the fact that Je.sus was born on December 25th?
Go for it. Even the greatest theologians don't know the exact date when Jesus was actually born. He was dead for a long time, before Christianity became a religion. The date is a celebration and the date was selected for the basis of adopting Pagan holidays to convert people. Look what a wonderful job and how well that worked? ps for the haters of the world? Jesus was a Jew!
720
« on: December 26, 2023, 11:06 »
All of the backgrounds look soft and grainy. The clouds in the second hot air balloon seem to have some odd shapes and artifacts. I don't do these, I can't say what the standards are for front focus or depth, or blur. But just from my eyes looking at them full size, I think they have too much grain. I don't mean artifacts or bad spotting, just grain. The main subjects seem sharp.
Nice to see them full size. Nice ideas and images. Great colors.
721
« on: December 25, 2023, 13:23 »
Does this sound familiar? "Yule is the time to celebrate the rebirth of the light after the very darkest part of the year. In neopagan traditions, Yule (also known as Jl) is when the god, who sacrificed himself at Samhain, has journeyed through the underworld and, in the embrace of the goddess, becomes the child of light."
Yule traditions date back to the Neolithic period in northern Europe, particularly among the Germanic population. The Neolithic period began around 10,000 BC and ended between 4500 and 2000 BC. In other words, 4,000 to 2,000 years Before Christians appropriated the pagan celebration.
But more basic is, old times and religions and culture, was heavily based on the seasons, the Moon, the stars and/or the Sun.
722
« on: December 23, 2023, 10:34 »
For editorial I am sure SS is still a great place. And I doubt Adobe is interested in doing editorial seriously, so in that field their only real competition is Getty. And Getty doesn't take editorial video.
But commercial is different.
Would Adobe mess up their upload system like this? They would probably beta test it on experienced producers to make it fit their workflow.
The old SS would have done that too.
They said in their last financial interview their focus for growing the business was not stock sales, but data sales, especially licensing for ai training.
So we will see when we get the next exciting news that helps ss grow their data business.
"They said in their last financial interview their focus for growing the business was not stock sales, but data sales, especially licensing for ai training."
Not sure what that means.
Short sighted if they expect AI training to go on forever. Once used, it's not needed. Oh wait, that's our side, one use or two and done. New training, maybe, and that's why everything rejected, they tried to slot over into Data Catalog so they could sell it for AI, without putting it up on the standard site. WE feed the data beast that's eating our income?
723
« on: December 21, 2023, 12:49 »
I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
WOW, congrats, never seen such a big sale, wondering if was sold under clip packs, enhanced video or cart sales.
Its down as a "Cart Sale".
But a 100% chance of being fraud/scam/error as it sold again today for a similar amount.
(Previous record for me was $500 but that was legit).
Something bad is going on here.
In a nice way, I hope you're wrong and these are real sales. 
724
« on: December 20, 2023, 14:11 »
I know what a good image is, what a saleable image is. I know to submit unique shots (i.e., no "300 cucumbers" with "slight angle variations" like some ppl do, and actually currently have in their profile).
But if they are sliced vegetables, 300 cucumbers at various angles? That could be real Microstock! 
725
« on: December 20, 2023, 13:55 »
For this one I would think the object itself is underexposed.
Overall Adobe prefers high contrast and bright images. You can have it on a dark background but the object itself should be exceptionally well lit.
Then it would more useful if more of the object was in full focus, i.e. a stacked photo.
A flower bouquet can gain by selective dof, but simple objects are more useful when they are tack sharp.
The customer can always selectively blur, but they cannot restore focus and detail.
Thanks for some interesting observation. I was just playing with that one, and if I do something serious, I can use that.
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