Quote from: abimages on August 06, 2009, 17:16
Cheap, unprofessional and not at all creative

unprofessional ?
no more unprofessional than the Big 6 moving subscription prices lower until there is no ground rules left.

cheap?
not as cheap as the prices the competitors have our images selling at

not at all creative ?

that's totally up to the buyers to decide.

Quote from: m@m on August 06, 2009, 02:58
..., I really don't think that such a professional like John crawl out from under a rock..

rofl, i highly doubt that Mr Griffin crawl out from under a rock.
but maybe if he was trying to emulate David, who did crawl out from under a rock, in his duel with Golaith, armed with only a slingshot. that might just be the inspiration Mr Griffin needs to bring his vision into fruition.

Cheapshot? Hell, no, it's a sling shot !
go for it David, i mean John !

Ho ho up ya $, whatever whoever you are. New member, huh?
did you resurrect yourself from dracula's tomb or what?

better buy a thesarus ..while you're at it. E bay's got a good bargain. don't you ever get a spellchecker?

I am finished "hier" , if you want to know 

Quote from: whatalife on August 05, 2009, 19:21
Hell, at this point I'd just like to see one thread make it through a grown-up on-topic discussion without the mention of lubricant.

And they wonder why people won't take them or their opinions seriously.

and you take everything that gostwyck says seriously? 
lol c'mon bud whatalife, you got to be kidding me , right? 

Quote from: whatalife on August 05, 2009, 19:03
ARGH.

I think that you are missing PB's point, and that was that the original "attack" was on this person who came from nowhere to spout off a whole lot of nonsense about something she clearly knew very little about. SHE is NOT making money on microstock because she is not (yet) participating in microstock.

I don't think PB was trying to draw lines of differentiation between the levels of contributor here, only between those who actually have real experience and knowledge of microstock, and those who clearly do not.

granted whatalife, c'est cool !

but that still does not entitle gostwyck to be obnoxious. and PB to mouth off to mention Stacey with equal exuberance, a la gostwyck.

still, i accept the consequence. it is a forum, i can take as much as i give.
so , let's get used to it, like it or not.

i don't have a life, i am not successful , so this is my only life, why not?
the irony to all this? the ones who insist we get a life is spending as much time over here as we are.  ROFL...

look in the mirror ! what do you see ? same thing as you see in me .ROFL

there ! i put puravida back , with the avatar of a guy, for you and gost to be turned on ! 

Quote from: PixelBytes on August 05, 2009, 18:23

Quote from: obladihell on August 05, 2009, 18:16


Money does not entitle anyone to be verbally abusive.

Sorry, so what does entitle someone to be verbally abusive? 

Feel free to answer Obladi or Lubzombie.  I forget which one of the tag team I am addressing at any given moment. 

Oh wait, shouldn't you be making nice with me and patting me on the head?  I am, after all, a woman, and according to you (both) that means you are being a bully(s) by disagreeing with me.  Right?  Or did I miss something?

No, you didn't miss anything.
You think it's OK for gostwyck to be offensive with one woman, or two..
so it's OK for me to be offensive to you , woman or otherwise.

You cannot play both sides of the fence.
Either both of us are wrong in being offensive or both of us are entitled to be offensive,
to man or woman, or the homo that gost calls me.
According to gost, I am both man and woman, so I am entitled to be offensive ...
ROFL.

don't try to get out of this. you won't ! Get gost to help !  he's the one who knows everything, and you approve of his obnoxious behaviour...
So you should get used to mine too 

Quote from: PixelBytes on August 05, 2009, 18:07

Quote from: lubezombie on August 05, 2009, 17:54

with evidences of gostwyck's consistent obsession to personally attack FEMALE posters here on MSG, I would say that is factual, and informations well backed
to entitle him with the honour of CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE 

Quote from: obladihell on August 05, 2009, 18:04


aw, come on Jonathan. CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE needs to have their day at ganging up on Lisa . If I recall it was another woman they missed ganging up on a long time back. Since she 's not here anymore, it's been a while since these CRANKY OLE FARTS had their day ganging up on some woman. So, let them play.

Quote from: obladihell on August 05, 2009, 17:42

sure ! gostwyck's HISTORICAL contribution AGAINST certain WOMEN stemmed all the way from IS forum. we are not strangers to his GENDER SPECIFIC attacks or ABUSIVE PERSONAL attacks on women contributors.
SO , that gives him CARTE BLANC to say whatever he wants to, here?

Wonderful ! He has his fan club, and I 'll start my own .
OK?

I rest my case.

There really is no case for you to rest on, SOrry!

Money does not entitle anyone to be verbally abusive.
If I am not mistaken, that other woman that gostwyck did so consistently personally attack at this forum and IS forum is ALSO MAKING MONEY AT MICROSTOCK.

so being successful at making money in micro stock or anywhere does not entitle anyone to be offensive.
Further more,  I AM FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL IN  THE BUSINESS WORLD,
NOT MICROSTOCK , but still MAKING MONEY.

So, in your bent opinion, I qualify to be OFFENSIVE here too.
BECAUSE I AM MAKING MONEY...  in the REAL STOCK MARKET world.

i TOO, ACCORDING TO YOU, have CARTE BLANC to be offensive like Gost.

In fact, I might just be more FINANCIALLY EQUIPPED than Gost in the balance sheet.
Which, according to you, entitles me to be MORE offensive to anyone I please
here or anywhere else.

I rest my case TOO ! 

Quote from: lubezombie on August 05, 2009, 17:54

Quote from: obladihell on August 05, 2009, 17:42

Quote from: PixelBytes on August 05, 2009, 14:40

Quote from: lubezombie on August 05, 2009, 02:24

aw, come on Jonathan. CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE needs to have their day at ganging up on Lisa . If I recall it was another woman they missed ganging up on a long time back. Since she 's not here anymore, it's been a while since these CRANKY OLE FARTS had their day ganging up on some woman. So, let them play.

You know, as a woman (hard to tell from my picture, I realize) the above is really offensive. 

Why should someone have carte blanche to say any idiotic thing in their head, with no facts, experience, or information to back them up, just because they are female?  That is so insulting and condescending I don't know where to begin. 

If someone wants to express an opinion, fine.  If their opinion is an emotional rant filled with wild speculation and outright falsehoods, they can expect that people will disagree with them - sometimes very bluntly.  Nobody should come here expecting to be treated with kid gloves just because they are a woman.  If you can't play with the big boys stay home and knit.

Nobody is getting picked on here because of their gender - that is until Perseus started throwing around "male menopause" comments.   

funny that you should be offended when it is gender specific,
so tell me, how come you missed gostwyck's gender specific comment about puravida.

and with regards to "idiotic thing in their head, with no facts, experience, or information to back them up," 
what do you say of gostwyck's mouthing out about lisas4, perseus, a once regular lady IS exclusive,etc..?


  or is gostwyck immuned to your taste of "emotional rant "without  "wild speculation and outright falsehoods" ?

Hmm?

with evidences of gostwyck's consistent obsession to personally attack FEMALE posters here on MSG, I would say that is factual, and informations well backed
to entitle him with the honour of CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE 

as a WOE-man, GOST merely personally attacks WOMAN posters . That does not qualify him to castration for being verbally abusive to "specific" women here.
Obsessive and abusive towards SPECIFIC WOMEN, perharps. Beyond chastization, absolutely not !
Why? because he was here long before you came. And like a MALE-cat spraying his territory, gost is allowed to say what he wants against any women here.
But not you or any body else?

sure ! gostwyck's HISTORICAL contribution AGAINST certain WOMEN stemmed all the way from IS forum. we are not strangers to his GENDER SPECIFIC attacks or ABUSIVE PERSONAL attacks on women contributors.
SO , that gives him CARTE BLANC to say whatever he wants to, here?

Wonderful ! He has his fan club, and I 'll start my own .
OK?

Quote from: PixelBytes on August 05, 2009, 14:40

Quote from: lubezombie on August 05, 2009, 02:24

aw, come on Jonathan. CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE needs to have their day at ganging up on Lisa . If I recall it was another woman they missed ganging up on a long time back. Since she 's not here anymore, it's been a while since these CRANKY OLE FARTS had their day ganging up on some woman. So, let them play.

You know, as a woman (hard to tell from my picture, I realize) the above is really offensive. 

Why should someone have carte blanche to say any idiotic thing in their head, with no facts, experience, or information to back them up, just because they are female?  That is so insulting and condescending I don't know where to begin. 

If someone wants to express an opinion, fine.  If their opinion is an emotional rant filled with wild speculation and outright falsehoods, they can expect that people will disagree with them - sometimes very bluntly.  Nobody should come here expecting to be treated with kid gloves just because they are a woman.  If you can't play with the big boys stay home and knit.

Nobody is getting picked on here because of their gender - that is until Perseus started throwing around "male menopause" comments.   

funny that you should be offended when it is gender specific,
so tell me, how come you missed gostwyck's gender specific comment about puravida.

and with regards to "idiotic thing in their head, with no facts, experience, or information to back them up," 
what do you say of gostwyck's mouthing out about lisas4, perseus, a once regular lady IS exclusive,etc..?


  or is gostwyck immuned to your taste of "emotional rant "without  "wild speculation and outright falsehoods" ?

Hmm?

with evidences of gostwyck's consistent obsession to personally attack FEMALE posters here on MSG, I would say that is factual, and informations well backed
to entitle him with the honour of CRANKY OLD FARTS SUFFERING FROM MALE MENOPAUSE 

Quote from: lubezombie on August 05, 2009, 03:58

Quote from: obladihell on August 05, 2009, 03:54

Quote from: gostwyck on August 05, 2009, 03:38
LOLS __ you two guys really need to get yourselves a life (at least one between you anyway!).

Try to visualise for yourselves a life free of exotic substances and that anal fixation you both seem so obsessed with (always thought it a bit weird that Puravida had the image of a male actor as his avatar).

well, well, well,
listen to the man with the 'wyck !
he sho KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

You Deviant YOU ! Gostwyck, so kinky ! 

ALL HAIL THE GREAT GOSTWYCK..
the man who knows too much...

who only thinks he is the only one who knows anything...
inside his fictitious mind hides a great imagination...

ALL HAIL THE GREAT GOST !
gosh !

Gosh ...



....weeeakkkk !

Quote from: gostwyck on August 05, 2009, 03:38
LOLS __ you two guys really need to get yourselves a life (at least one between you anyway!).

Try to visualise for yourselves a life free of exotic substances and that anal fixation you both seem so obsessed with (always thought it a bit weird that Puravida had the image of a male actor as his avatar).

well, well, well,
listen to the man with the 'wyck !
he sho KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

You Deviant YOU ! Gostwyck, so kinky ! 

Quote from: gostwyck on August 05, 2009, 03:38
LOLS __ you two guys really need to get yourselves a life (at least one between you anyway!).

Try to visualise for yourselves a life free of exotic substances and that anal fixation you both seem so obsessed with (always thought it a bit weird that Puravida had the image of a male actor as his avatar).

speak into the mic, bud.
look into the mirror, fictitious person ! ROFL.

seriously, you do have a fetish.  get your little 'wyck checked . it can lead to worst social diseases, actually.

------------------------             THE END             ------------------------



Starring: - gostwyck as ... 'The Know It All' and 'Mind reader'


This is an entirely fictional account. Any resemblance to a real life person, smoking, drinking or injecting , is entirely co-incidental. Or, just onsetting signs of Alzheimer.

Quote from: sjlocke on August 05, 2009, 02:52
I'm actually starting to get annoyed at this weird language a few here are starting to speak in.  It certainly doesn't contribute to the threads, and most of it makes no sense.

Nobody ganged up on Lisa.  She elicited opinions from everyone on the site, both with her copy and pasted rant repeatedly, and her insinuation that no one here knows what they are doing.  If anyone agreed with her, they were free to post as well, although posting in nonsense talk normally doesn't help make a cause.

Sean, u r a cool dude, and I have nothing against that.
I get annoyed too whenever gostwyck does his weird stuff as well.
It's not like we started the thing. Gost and you and some other of your  groupies
started it all, from way back when.
We are just carrying the torch.

We won't crap if you won't , either .

Quote from: hoi ha on August 05, 2009, 03:23

Quote from: sjlocke on August 05, 2009, 02:52
I'm actually starting to get annoyed at this weird language a few here are starting to speak in.  It certainly doesn't contribute to the threads, and most of it makes no sense.

Nobody ganged up on Lisa.  She elicited opinions from everyone on the site, both with her copy and pasted rant repeatedly, and her insinuation that no one here knows what they are doing.  If anyone agreed with her, they were free to post as well, although posting in nonsense talk normally doesn't help make a cause.

OMG - could it be that for once I actually agree with sjlocke? Yup ...

ROFL, see what I mean Sean?
your groupies are coming out of your ears...

Who else?  take care, Sean ! Groupies are just as much as annoying as weird noises (no pun intended).

Quote from: gostwyck on August 05, 2009, 03:06

Quote from: sjlocke on August 05, 2009, 02:52
I'm actually starting to get annoyed at this weird language a few here are starting to speak in. 

It happens when people drink/smoke/inject more than they can handle. I assume it's why they both change their forum names every few days too, must loss of memory or embarrassment when they sober up.

rofl, are you referring to yourself? Gostwyck? drink/smoke/inject?
you should be the one to talk. remember Ms. Newman, whom you consistently crapped on, during your spell of  drink/smoke/inject, and waking up, loss of memory or embarrassment when YOU sober up.   oh add to that, ALZHEIMER, gostwyck. You forgot all that , huh?

Only you know everything about the business...

what's there not to know about this micro business?
you submit your photos and act like the 3 monkeys (see not,hear not, speak not)
you get the *, you smile and say thank you bwana.
what's there not to know?

it's much like being a junkie. except with the junkie the price (you pay) keeps going up.
with micro, the price (you earn) keeps going down.
whatever, you're hooked and you cannot do squat. you are a micro stock professional.

Quote from: gostwyck on August 05, 2009, 00:35



------------------------             THE END             ------------------------



Starring: - Lisas4 as ... 'The Educator' and 'Big Money Photographer'


This is an entirely fictional account. Any resemblance to a real life person, living or dead, is entirely co-incidental

Gee, wish I could say the same for you too, Gostwyck.
Go become a flipping fictional character too, puleez * !

Quote from: RT on August 04, 2009, 23:55

Quote from: Lisas4 on August 04, 2009, 23:43
So guys and girls, i am off, yuo can breath free again, I am off to make some, -how did one of you guys call it?  I am off to make some stupid big money, for some stupid big agency that has decided to stay away for this shoot from stock. Hope you guys allow me a bit longer to ,make "stupid big money" until even in this area you take over with 5 dollar jobs.

cheers, lisa

But you're not making "stupid big money" because if you were you wouldn't be here complaining about the microstock industry.

RT,
So I suppose that makes you some big time monkey, I mean money making not so stupid dude here , is it?
If ganging up on her makes you so big, that's not very impressive.

Why is she not allowed to voice her opinion, as silly as it may seem to you.
I think your ganging up on Lisa4 is not that impressive, but we still don't expect you to bugger off like you expect her to do .

So, come off your blooming high horse and let's keep this forum an open discussion.
Not unless you like to start your own where every single dude has to agree with you and your flipping motley crew of lupe zombies !

Quote from: lubezombie on August 04, 2009, 23:39

Quote from: m@m on August 04, 2009, 18:50
I agree with you abladihell...WTH do these guys want? it seems to be a dam if you do, and dam if you don't situation with them, common give someone else a chance to do something to compete with the big guys, or at the very least give it a good try, I guess some of the people on this forum have nothing better to do with their time than acting like frustrated housewives, criticizing, snitching and gossipping on everyone else's ideas...but if the ideas came from the LUBE MASTERS then is all fine...uuuh! I don't like the name!, uuuh! I'll tell on you!...Give me a F.....g break...and let John do what he needs to do to make his site a better place for the rest of us...then you guys can stay with your LUBE MASTERS AND TAKE ALL OF THEIR CRAP!

m@m 4 president !
YAY... oops sorry, I mean... Hurrah Cutcaster!

JOHN GRIFFIN a.k.a. Terminator !   

Quote from: 50%egg on August 04, 2009, 21:43

Quote from: obladihell on August 04, 2009, 21:08
whatver John's ulterior motive is, if it is to dig at those Big 6 who have been giving us their incredible curve balls, I wholeheartedly say, "Go for it Cutcaster!
If you truly wish contributors get better commissions, then, I hope you succeed . out of getting the buyers to think they should be paying as much on good images as they themselves expect their work to be highly valued".

i , for one, cannot believe that ALL BUYERS are scavengers, and will only pay us peanuts. 
it's the blooming greed of the Big 6 of micro stock that have made the buyers think like scavengers, and that we, the contributors do not deserve to be paid anything more than a few pennies for our work.

I think you give the buyers more credit than they deserve.

Buyers are no different from children. They will take whatever daddy and mommy allow them .  In fact, some, if not many, of these buyers were living on daddy's credit card through Art School, and are used to getting everything for nothing. They don't know what value is.

If the sites can sell for more, don't you think they would?

u mayb just be right . re. the mentality of the generation.  but, not all buyers belong of that generation of "mooches". many are of the generation that are used to traditional stock photos,
and of an era where a photographer is paid well.

the buyers have been weaned to get as much for next to nothing.
look at the ads on the main page of 4 out of 5 of every micro stock site.
what dya see as headlines?
u don't see , "we charge more because our images are the best!"
you only see, "now you can get even more for less!"

every blooming site is competing with the other to drop the sub prices to lower than the next guy.
until the agenda of the project is not "better commission for our contributors" but "we hear what our buyers are saying ".

there are enough wannabees to replace anyone who suddenly wakes up to think that getting a few pennies for their images is ridiculous . the sites know that, and the world is very full of the next horde of wannabees with cheaper DSLRs.   even if the whole of North Am quits on micro, the whole of China can replace them 10 folds, and the sites will not even blink or miss any one of you who quits
and pull out your portfolio.

whatver John's ulterior motive is, if it is to dig at those Big 6 who have been giving us their incredible curve balls, I wholeheartedly say, "Go for it Cutcaster!
If you truly wish contributors get better commissions, then, I hope you succeed . out of getting the buyers to think they should be paying as much on good images as they themselves expect their work to be highly valued".

i , for one, cannot believe that ALL BUYERS are scavengers, and will only pay us peanuts. 
it's the blooming greed of the Big 6 of micro stock that have made the buyers think like scavengers, and that we, the contributors do not deserve to be paid anything more than a few pennies for our work.

Quote from: cidepix on August 04, 2009, 18:42

and o - bladi - hell, wassup bro! 

I do like john's efforts but he could have come up with a better name. This name is bad, and it is good he hears it now.

ya right ...cidepix bud .
en serio, methinks John should avoid any word that rhymes with  :

PASTA

or

crappy

Quote from: stockastic on August 04, 2009, 18:34
I doubt IStock has been able to trademark an Italian noun.

lol, agree stockastic.
not unless Getty has italian :connections:   
last i looked, they are still based in calgary, ab... not milan IT

Quote from: cidepix on August 03, 2009, 19:21

Quote from: WarrenPrice on June 19, 2009, 22:56
Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database? 
Is my reasoning totally naive?

Well, I can't make StockXpert better because I am almost equally approved at both StockXpert and IS.

The images IS reject are mostly crap anyway. At least in my case. I am very harsh on myself, and I suggest you do it too. Haven't seen your port but I think everyone should questions themselves before they get mad at the sites. Your approval ratio on IS will go up, if you find the answers! It is not like IS hates you  You gotta figure out what they want and stop shooting what they don't want.

not sure if I entirely agree with you.
at one time, it was easier to get approval with StockXpert than IS.
but lately, i find it weird that some of my rejected stuff at StockXpert are getting approved at IS.  you would expect it to be either equal or IS being more strict.

maybe i had atilla at StockXpert that day. rejected all my images which a week later got all approved by IS.

anyway, i think StockXpert is nuts and prefer it to die anyway. IS is definitely the place to be.

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on August 03, 2009, 18:58
while sales have been  'normal'...     I am leary about uploading..   I like StockXpert and have had a good relationship with them and I want to upload....but...  sadly,  StockXpert isnt calling the shots now,   big brother seems to be....   
   and how does that translate down the road?  Quien sabe?  =tom

Quien sabe?
StockXpert me parece muerto.  como un cuerpo sin vivo ahorita cubierto con gusanos! guacala !