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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: Yesterday at 16:31 »

Really, what a nutter you are, you don't seem to even understand English.

What about your knowledge of Spanish, German or French  ;). Your level of argumentation is really underground. ::)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: Yesterday at 16:00 »
.... I made Level 1 in eight days ....



Hmm, ok, I assume that most of us have reached level 1 much earlier  ;)
 The rest of your text I have not really understood even after translation and found it quite confused. In any case, I wish you much success, for whatever.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: Yesterday at 15:34 »


BUT, be my guest, continue to upload and live in poverty.

I don't want to get so deeply into what for me is a rather strange discussion.
Although January was, as expected, not so great, Shutterstock's revenues at least compensate for the increased energy prices. I really can't see that this agency is driving me into poverty.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: Yesterday at 15:02 »
I have a question:  Have you seen an increase in 10 cent sales under the SOD category?  I've had five single and other category sales for 10 cents this month.  I have not seen that before.  What's with that?

Reimar, I had a look and can not confirm that for me.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: January 24, 2022, 14:49 »
You should therefore also look at, for example, housing costs, health care costs, rent subsidy for low wages, costs of food, accrual pension, .....
It's called "cost of living". That's easier then summing up all kinds of examples :)

But who likes it nice and simple  ;). "rent subsidy for low wages" and "accrual pension" not belong to "cost of living"   :P

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December sales are in
« on: January 22, 2022, 09:43 »
My experience is the other way around.
While Shutterstock is developing positively (also Alamy and Adobe), iStock is becoming less and less important for me and has now reached the level of 123rf.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 22, 2022, 07:15 »
Also, knowing that China does not see copyright as we in Europe and the US see it, why on earth do Alamy even want to disseminate our images there, far less in bulk at tiny prices.
There are many stolen images in China. For example, if my pics are used in a newspaper, they're showing on many Chinese sites before I even know of the sale. Alamy won't go after these image thefts, because they know they are unlikely to be successful.

There's a serious lack of joined-up thinking, reeking of some combination of desperation and/or greed. Or wanting to make a fast buck before ...?

Those were my thoughts as well.
If someone in a country where copyright plays almost no role buys masses of cheap images, the probability is relatively high that nonsense is done with our images - without us noticing.

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As long as it's not our Dutch Heineken, I don't care.    ;D

Thijs, do you know that we in Germany call Heineken "Grachtenpisse" (dutch canal pee)  ;)

Seriously, you guys have excellent specialty brews. However, you think in smaller dimensions. While we drink away half liters here, you sip on your 0.2 liter glasses (klein biertje flutje)  ;)

4 brewery CEOs in a bar, after a conference:
The CEO of Heineken: "A Heineken, please!"
The CEO of Amstel: "An Amstel, please!"
The CEO of Grolsch: "A Grolsch, please!"

"And you, Sir?" says the waitress asking the Leffe CEO.
"Same for me, a glass of water, please".


You're even worse than Ralf. Fortunately, we also have Hertog Jan.  :)

Thijs, I put you out of your misery. Hertoog Jan has the best wheat beer, even better than bavarian snow mountain pee  ;)

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As long as it's not our Dutch Heineken, I don't care.    ;D

Thijs, do you know that we in Germany call Heineken "Grachtenpisse" (dutch canal pee)  ;)

Seriously, you guys have excellent specialty brews. However, you think in smaller dimensions. While we drink away half liters here, you sip on your 0.2 liter glasses (klein biertje flutje)  ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Statistics
« on: January 21, 2022, 15:48 »
I don't see this as an attack on Mat or anything else.

 I see it just like Pete as quite strange that an agency with such technical know-how is not able to provide a reasonable statistic or an app - as it is obviously desired by most users.
It's just a joke on Pete. He used these exact words on me when I had some critcism on Alamy in another thread where James of Alamy  responded. So never mind. It's just lame Friday evening humor. Have a nice weekend :)

 :D

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The higher sales for me are usually not the best sellers, but surprise sales even of older images. Why customers chose exactly this photo is honestly a mystery to me. Here are 4 example of sales around 100$, the first and second one was made on the side with the iPhone.


same here - you just never know what a buyer needs - which is why the rejections for LCV are rediculous

If anyone is feeling bad about LCV, and I'd agree, let the buyer decide not some reviewers personal opinion, I want to share my first rejection in maybe a year on DT.

Your image might not be suitable as a stock image because of one or more of the following reasons:

We have reviewed your file and this is not quite what we're looking for. Please note that this image is not eligible for resubmission.

Image is not RF stock oriented or its sales potential is too low at this stage. Please note that Stock photography is a commercial type of imagery, so, snapshots are not Stock. It is also very important to understand that Art and Stock are two fundamentally different categories of imagery, that only meet when an artwork can adapt to a wide range of commercial usage.

Lack of concept.

This event is too old and no longer presents interest in the editorial section.


Holy Cow! I should have had a can of this before I uploaded?


I feel like I've gone back in time to grade school. 

ps Accepted at Adobe Stock...

Pete, at Dreamstime I don't even pay attention to the rare reasons for rejection.
But the rejection of german style lager because of lack of sales potential hits me personally.  ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Statistics
« on: January 21, 2022, 14:58 »
Ok. Thanks Mat.

Get Microstockr, and you'll have all these missing stats and more, not only for AS but for all your microstock sites.

Really? $5.99 a month to read the stats on Adobe? I hope that Mat has been lobbying to get us some decent lifetime earnings details for images. It just seems silly to have to go 13 months at a time and collect things on our own. For all the things that Adobe does right, the information about our earnings and assets performance is lacking.


This is why representatives from most of the agencies never come here, or stopped after a small number of visits. People like you who find something wrong with everything. And when they do try to answer you find something wrong with that too? Mat has been here many times before and over many years. The least people here could do is act like adults and a little bit professional?

(neh, just messing with you Pete:) )

I don't see this as an attack on Mat or anything else.

 I see it just like Pete as quite strange that an agency with such technical know-how is not able to provide a reasonable statistic or an app - as it is obviously desired by most users.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 21, 2022, 14:43 »
Hi All,

The data has been pulled and looked at for the distributor in question and we can confirm they have operated within our agreement.

The images were sourced from the pool of images opted into Chinese distribution and Novel Use. The usage confirmation report included a very small % of images that had opted out or had been deleted in the time between download and use, but the vast majority of images billed remain opted into both.

The images selected have been used as part of a small business / personal template style application where users can quickly create small designs. The novel use pool was used for this as it covers low value / high volume style licence packages and our agreement with this distributor continues to limit them to the novel use pool, although there still may be some additional billing associated with images downloaded whilst opted in, that are now opted out.

These deals are done based on the fact that they are additional streams of revenue that allow our reach to grow within the market and gain ground on competitors.

The average licence price we sell for remains a significant indicator as to our approach to pricing, and the fact that it has remained stable over the last 3 or 4 years at $26-$30 in a difficult market shows a level of robustness. Competition is fierce of course and last year saw record levels of contributor registrations and image uploads. The photographers who are growing revenue on Alamy and having continued success are supplying a steady stream of fresh and on-trend content and are seeing year on year growth in earnings.

Future growth opportunities are on the horizon across all areas of our business and we'll share them with you at the earliest opportunity.

Best regards

James Allsworth

Head of Content

James, first of all I think it is good that you explain the situation here on behalf of Alamy. Thank you for that.

On the other hand, it is of no use if you answer here only with empty phrases and do not respond to the questions and problems of the forum participants.

Nobody here can confirm the average license price of 26 - 30$. Where did you get your numbers from?

And if this deal, as you say, was so important for Alamy in this difficult business - who tells us that there won't be many more deals like this with Bonsai remuneration?


If you're going to the trouble of jumping into the shark tank here, you should try a little harder or just don't do it.


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It's true. 123rf, dreamstime and Depositphotos are rather unimportant. Nevertheless, I'm close to 10,000 downloads on 123. With Depositphotos it is less, but I believe that I will reach the 10,000 before 123rf. At dreamstime it's not even half, but with a much better RPD. Compared to other agencies, with these three it was hardly worth the work. But in the end, there is a little money together, although much less than with the big agencies. Whether it makes sense to continue uploading with these small, everyone must decide for themselves. A few years ago I would have said yes, but now I'm not sure. I only upload there now because it's relatively quick.

Wilm, 10,000 downloads are impressive.
Because the upload is so nice and easy, I would say that it still makes sense to supply the small agencies mentioned. Over the year, the 3 agencies together already add up to a nice sum. If the images are prepared, the upload simply runs alongside.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December sales are in
« on: January 20, 2022, 03:36 »
I darent look because itll depress me for the rest of the week.

In addition to all the praise from others, I'll join you. I made the mistake of looking at the invoice. As always, no $30 with very bad RPD. Istock is still the taillight for me.

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Yes, that rain comes from us.  ;D  It was also foggy here the days before.

As much as I like your country, this is a very serious problem here with huge political explosives. The rain and thus any bad weather always comes from Holland. You should change that. ;)

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My highest photo sale on SS this year was $100 when I was level 3.

I'd be interested to know when you uploaded that image and what you think makes it stand apart so that it can fetch such a good price.

Annie has talked previously about it being worthwhile uploading 'high quality' (ie mp/size) images.  Was this the case with this one?

I'd also be interested to know if you have such successes with images uploaded in the last 12 months or so.

The higher sales for me are usually not the best sellers, but surprise sales even of older images. Why customers chose exactly this photo is honestly a mystery to me. Here are 4 example of sales around 100$, the first and second one was made on the side with the iPhone.



Thanks Ralf. Yes, these are indeed not the photos where you immediately expect such a high price. I see your port is expanding fast!!! Right now I'm not doing anything with this grey weather.

Thijs, well, the photos are not that badc ;).But I know what you mean, that's why I posted these examples.

Here in Germany in our area we have fog for weeks, I would be happy if I could at least see gray skies.

I'm looking forward again to the bike tours in the summer in 'Holland, when I can poach in your territory photographically  :D

Same weather as with us. And there will be no improvement this month. This was a photo of the sky above our garden on a "beautiful" day a few days ago. I just sold it for 10 cents in Poland.   :)  https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/dark-clouds-sky-silhouette-trees-winter-2101821232

With your photo Caribbean feelings arise with me  ;). The visibility here was 50 - 100 m, today the fog is gone for a long time, but continuous rain now.  >:(

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My highest photo sale on SS this year was $100 when I was level 3.

I'd be interested to know when you uploaded that image and what you think makes it stand apart so that it can fetch such a good price.

Annie has talked previously about it being worthwhile uploading 'high quality' (ie mp/size) images.  Was this the case with this one?

I'd also be interested to know if you have such successes with images uploaded in the last 12 months or so.

The higher sales for me are usually not the best sellers, but surprise sales even of older images. Why customers chose exactly this photo is honestly a mystery to me. Here are 4 example of sales around 100$, the first and second one was made on the side with the iPhone.

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/top-view-on-isolated-echinacea-flowers-1779167648

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/oberhausen-centro-ruhrgebiet-germany-july-9-2021174987

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/view-on-natural-turquoise-pool-surrounded-1236635590

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/closeup-four-shiny-red-ripe-bell-1652773057

Thanks Ralf. Yes, these are indeed not the photos where you immediately expect such a high price. I see your port is expanding fast!!! Right now I'm not doing anything with this grey weather.

Thijs, well, the photos are not that badc ;).But I know what you mean, that's why I posted these examples.

Here in Germany in our area we have fog for weeks, I would be happy if I could at least see gray skies.

I'm looking forward again to the bike tours in the summer in 'Holland, when I can poach in your territory photographically  :D

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My highest photo sale on SS this year was $100 when I was level 3.

I'd be interested to know when you uploaded that image and what you think makes it stand apart so that it can fetch such a good price.

Annie has talked previously about it being worthwhile uploading 'high quality' (ie mp/size) images.  Was this the case with this one?

I'd also be interested to know if you have such successes with images uploaded in the last 12 months or so.

The higher sales for me are usually not the best sellers, but surprise sales even of older images. Why customers chose exactly this photo is honestly a mystery to me. Here are 4 example of sales around 100$, the first and second one was made on the side with the iPhone.

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/top-view-on-isolated-echinacea-flowers-1779167648

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/oberhausen-centro-ruhrgebiet-germany-july-9-2021174987

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/view-on-natural-turquoise-pool-surrounded-1236635590

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/closeup-four-shiny-red-ripe-bell-1652773057

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Great stuff Mat and thanks for the info!

I would like to propose a session where Adobe explains to it's contributors how ranking works within searches of clients. It would be an honest and open gesture to the contributors what to expect in the collaboration we have together. It would also give tools to the contributor to submit better quality or other content if they would only know what drives the search algorithm or at least know what the components are. It probably will help Adobe as well.

Thanks for the question, but I don't think the ingredients of the secret search sauce can be revealed. I've tried to crack the code :)

Here is the recipe for contributor success that I have been able to reverse engineer:

-Preheat the oven by creating top level content on a regular basis that speaks to current and upcoming trends (this is why today's livestream is so important for contributors in my opinion.)

-Add the following in no particular order:

      -One teaspoon containing at least 15-25 relevant keywords
      -1/4 cup containing around 80 characters for a descriptive title
      -Two cups of submissions at regular intervals throughout the year.
 
That's it! After that, the plate leaves the kitchen and is served up to the customers out front. If they like what is on the menu, they order it and consume it. If they are pleased with the result, they come back for more and the process continues.

Can you tell that I'm hungry right now?

-Mat Hayward

I like that. Mat, aside from the beard and the same haircut, I think we have the same sense of humor  ;)
I'm more in the editorial field, after all.
When can you finally submit an editorial meal that also features a spoonful of people?
Is there anything in the pipeline?

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I don't understand why people care about levels. Even on the highest level I still earn 10 cents per photo.
  ;)because it makes a big difference to me whether I get 47$ for a SOD sale on level 1 or 160$ for the same sale on level 5.  :D
And since non-subscription sales are pretty much the only ones where you can make decent money on SS that makes leveling up even more important.

Thanks Firn for setting the record straight. Somehow the level discussions here always go in circles  ;)
I would also like to add that the higher subs are also increasing towards a dollar, which are now also still there.

I slipped into Level 3 yesterday and am already making significantly more revenue than I did with Adobe.

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I reached level 2 yesterday with an even $10. Today I had further 30 downloads so far with one single  outlier of 11 cent.
But ok, the year is still young. ;)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 05, 2022, 02:05 »
There are worse things in the world than an underpaid stock photographer. Also, look at yourself if things in your life aren't going the way you want them to.

Yes, there are worse things - colored tattoos.
I am so happy that the EU is now completely and finaly eradicating cancer by taking tattoo artists europe-wide off the scene into bankruptcy.
Next, we should turn off the harmful sun  ;)

Thought you were joking but it's true https://www.politico.eu/article/tattoo-parlors-brace-new-eu-ink-bans/  This might be a good editorial stock video and photo idea, shots of the bottles of coloured ink that are now banned and if any model has a coloured tattoo even better.

I'm just waiting for our Ontario Canada politicians to ban toilet paper as there are no doubt some cancer causing chemicals in the manufacturing process of the paper.

Unfortunately, many of the eu parliament's decisions really do seem like a joke and are not comprehensible with clear common sense. For the banned tattoo inks it is not even proven that they are carcinogenic and this assumption probably applies to almost all substances - so your comparison with toilet paper is not so far-fetched.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 04, 2022, 16:54 »
There are worse things in the world than an underpaid stock photographer. Also, look at yourself if things in your life aren't going the way you want them to.

Yes, there are worse things - colored tattoos.
I am so happy that the EU is now completely and finaly eradicating cancer by taking tattoo artists europe-wide off the scene into bankruptcy.
Next, we should turn off the harmful sun  ;)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 04, 2022, 14:57 »
The few customers I've spoken to often don't know. But to be honest, I also don't know if all my clothes are made under good conditions for a good wage, or if all the wood I use is responsibly harvested.
The customers I know are people who don't buy for themselves, but for a company they work for.

Absolutely right Thijs.
No one has the time to critically scrutinize every product they buy.
And the purchase of photos from stock agencies should be at the bottom of the list of priorities  ;)

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