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« on: July 29, 2023, 07:07 »
Pressure mounts as the Department of Defence confirms that the leaked letter allegedly from Sean Kirkpatrick head of AARO is confirmed as written by his own hand. His claim that Grusch didn't work for or with AARO is proven disingenuous as it was Gruschs job to liaise with them in his job title which was to investigate and catalogue all special projects to brief Congress. Doh! And how did he publish this tantrum ... on a linkedin page lol.
Further it has been shown that Kirkpatrick failed to share pertinent satellite imagery with Congress. Presumably that shows UAPs as this was the context in which they were required.
As I said Kirpatricks days are numbered. I imagine he will step aside rather soon. With a nice handshake no doubt 🙄
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« on: July 28, 2023, 13:57 »
Following the hearings Dr Sean Kirkpatrick has taken it upon himself to issue a personal statement regarding the allegations made by David Grusch. He makes two errors here ...
1. He should never jave done this because the allegations were levelled at him personally not the AARO organisation as a whole and
2. He lied. Despite the fact that he claims and doubles down at the end of the statement to claim no credible evidence has been seen by AARO it is a proven fact that following his statement stating this before Congress many service personnel who had supplied him and his team with video, radar, and eye witness testimony from a variety of cross referenced platforms (ship, shore and air data) He still claims that ... nothing to see here.
AARO for those who don't know consists of two teams. Each are given the data. They conclude what it is or isn't and then present him with their findings. If the findings are the same he writes a report presenting the facts. If not he sends it back to them until they agree or he makes the casting vote.
This isn't scientific because all that data falls back to one man not a large organisations. Two small teams. He has now employed a NASA contigent to "enhance" their findings using better sensors.
The reason this is hogwash is because until the chinese spey balloons many sensors had their sensitivity turned down because they kept being set off by UAPs. It was the Whitehouse who mandated the sensors be turned up.
Secondly Kirkpatrick isn't stating that UAPs don't exist although that's the implication.
His evidence and subsequent conclusions are only from a National Security perspective. Thats his mandate. If they deem it not an NS issue he categorises it as a null value
a NS issue is subjective as the hearings showed. Congress does not agree with Kirpatrick. So keep your eye out for his resignation before he's booted. Its coming. Kirpatricks butt hurt response.
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« on: July 28, 2023, 10:03 »
No, I do not. Inspriration by Star Trek is fine. However, I cannot take the Alcubierre drive particularly serious since it requires the existence of exotic matter or other forms of negative energy fields and even if they would be found, you would still have to produce them in large quantaties, which is unlikely to be feasible.
It is one thing to theorize about the theoretical possibility of such a drive and another to consider it as a pratical solution to the problem of interstellar travel, even for alien civilisations.
Yeah, at the moment it is certainly not feasible, no question about it. But that's not the point. The point is that you can think of loopholes in the theory of relativity. You don't violate any existing laws, and still reach the destination faster than light. Alcubierre drive is just one example of a loophole. It is conceivable that an advanced civilization has come up with other, possibly better loopholes including such that they can implement and use.
Well, it looks like we have a fundamentally different view of physics. I am convinced that there are some general laws of physics that will never be broken.
There cannot be a temperature below zero degree Kelvin, there cannot be a perpetual motion machine, two solid objects cannot occupy the same space, you cannot travel back in time and no particle or object with rest mass can reach or even exceed the speed of light.
You can theorize about loopholess in the theory of relativity all you want, but I don't think they exist and in the end it is just wishful thinking that there may be any, much less loopholes that make it feasible for an object the size of a star ship to exceed the speed of light and that without using forces that would destroy the starship and kill the travellers.
Now I may be wrong about that, but until I have been proven wrong, I think it is far more likely that the people who say they saw alien star ships misinterpret what they saw or misremember or lie or are delusional. After all, we know that people do those things all the time. So in my opinion, it is a far more likely explanation for what those people say then that we are completely wrong about the laws of physics.
Perpetual motion machines - planets? It's been theorised by Bob Lazar. Now you can poo poo Bob Lazar unfortunately his testimony keeps coming true. Element 115 is now achievable. His door entry hand measuring device can actually be bought on ebay from vintage sellers. He did work at Los Alamos. It seem clear we do posses craft although he never claimed that they were driven by aliens but when he examined internally one of the craft the panels and entrance size meant he had to crouch. Looks like we will be finding out because law are being drawn up to bypass secrecy clauses. He theorised when speaking to Dave Fravor that perhaps our perceptions were that the craft moved fast. Our perception is based on our cognitive frame rate. Can't remember the number off hand but in our case adrenaline increases the frame rate which slows things down when experiencing trauma. This is a fact I've experienced this myself in near death experiences 3 times. Everything slowed down and allowed me to make, in two of the circumstances life saving decisions. Anyway Bob suggested that they I presume mechanically create a faster frame rate around them in which they choose a location and travel there at less dangerous speeds for physical survival but our perception of the event is physically impossible for our technology because it appears so fast. Flies see us in slow motion and a tortoises frame rate is so low if we move fast we just appear as a blur. Was a cool documentary.
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« on: July 27, 2023, 16:59 »
From what I've heard of the congressional hearings so far they have been vastly underwhelming. It seems to be three "whistleblowers" who all believe that we have been visited by aliens, and at least one of them said they know 40 other guys who swear on their grandmothers' graves that they have seen alien craft and/or biologicals. And that is it - no proof of any kind, no documentation, no testimony from any of the people who supposedly have seen these things except second- or third-hand reports. And they can't say any more because it's classified. So what is the point? It all seems like a monumental waste of time to me.
I have no doubt that there are videos that can't be completely explained, many first-hand reports of pilots and others seeing weird phenomena, or other minor things like that. But actual alien spacecraft or bodies? So far no evidence. At all. If there are really that many alien encounters nowadays there is little possibility that the military or whoever else could cover it up - if someone found a spaceship or part of one or actual alien bodies it would be all over the internet before you could say "TikTok".
Congress should stop wasting their time. If they want to get to the truth, then put on some pressure to declassify what the whistleblowers are talking about and give the world a look. Show me some actual physical evidence and I will believe it, but "whistleblowers" saying they believe it and know a bunch of other guys who swear it's true without providing any actual evidence doesn't cut it. Lots of people believe things that aren't true but will swear up and down that they have seen it with their own eyes. I still remember the bigfoot show where people all over the US are sure they've seen sasquatch but are not deterred by the complete lack of any physical evidence. Somebody on Nextdoor not long ago tried to tell me how they've seen mountain lions in Indiana for decades - even though they have been extinct in the state for more than 100 years (other than the very occasional one that wanders in from North Dakota, which we did have once about a dozen years ago). That person grew up in the country and was sure that mountain lions are there. They really believed it. I'm sure they saw something - a bobcat maybe or a large domestic feline - but it wasn't a mountain lion. Just like the African lion that was recently reported in Germany that turned out most likely to be a wild boar. It's the same with the aliens - just because you've seen something you can't explain doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial (or a terrestrial myth). It would be very easy to confirm - make something available for independent analysis by the global scientific community. All of the technological progress that has occurred during my lifetime (which is getting to be a while now) was mostly the next obvious thing - there are no major jumps I can think of that would have resulted from an injection of alien technology. If the US military is benefitting from alien technology then they need to find some better aliens - we are certainly better than the Russians but only incrementally so, and not really at all when you consider the obscene amounts of money that have been spent. No more congressional showboating, let's see the evidence! If it doesn't exist then stop fooling around.
I get what you're saying. And it is all incorrect. You are missing the history of each of the pilots. The history of grusch and the procedures of Congress. You are missing large pieces of the puzzle but asking for answers. Unfortunately those answers require effort on your part to put the hearings into the jaw dropping context that they were. Now I have already explained many of these points in previous posts but unfortunately either you didn't read and watch them or you did and don't believe them. But you know this will happen now whether you believe it or not. At this point it is a train that is coming down the line at us and no matter what your stand point its going to keep coming. Nothing will stop it now. Nothing. This was historic and its becoming more and more obvious that is is entirely meticulously orchestrated. There will now be a flood of whistle blowers who are going to provide proof to congress regarding David Grushes claims which while you state are made up or hearsay whatever... they are anything but. They are all very true. They are fact no ambiguity. So you can either watch the pilots testimony or recollections online while you walk the dog or wash up or whatever or ... don't. It matters not. It's coming. This has never, ever, happened before. I've followed this area for decades and it has never ever gone down like this. But I get that for you, it's like.having to learn how to use the Internet for the first time. But if you have twitter follow Ross coulthart reporter/journalist Jeremy Corbell journalist James Fox film maker George Knapp Journalist Ryan Graves pilot witnessed fleet on radar East coast Chad Underwood Pilot filmed Tic Tac video Alex Dietrich Pilot - witnesses tic tac with Dave Fravor Dave Fravor Top Gun Instructor Of the dross that I've sifted through for decades these individuals recollections and research is second to none. Avoid Mick West you'll be wasting your time the guy is a grifter and a liar. Enjoy.
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« on: July 27, 2023, 03:20 »
One very odd thing happened with regard to the Senators that I can't explain. Other than being wrong which is possible obviously ... I'll paraphrase
When Senator Foxx spoke to Grusch she compared his testimony to Kirkpatricks and stated ....
This very contradiction and lack of transparency is what led to a Chinese spy balloons entering our air space. The lack of action by the Biden administration cause widespread fear and confusion and only after (some) days and only after it had travelled the entire continental United States were two jets deployed to shoot it down. This flip flopping ... (from memory) she goes on to say change is needed and with that she yields back her time.
I've watched the streamed versions on various platforms and they all go this way. I and a witness watching it with me don't remember it that way. We have a very clear memory of it and it went like this ... as above for the most part but ....
...and only after it had travelled the entire continental United States were two jets deployed to shoot it down and two other UAP. This innaction caused further panic and at a cost of (I think 70 million she said) Dollars to the American tax payers ... this flip flopping.
The witness remembers money being stated and remembers me ghasping when she said two other UAP and stating... oh sh&t she's gonna bring that up.
I can't find a version where she says this ... but I remember she did. Very curious.
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« on: July 26, 2023, 13:17 »
Garvia - do you believe that the US governmnent are in possession of UAPs
Grusch - Yes
Garcia - Where are they and who has them.
Grusch- I know the exact locations and I have provided he locations the Inspector General of Inteligance.
There has been talk for decades about these UAPs in the US, but no one has ever seen one. 
Incorrect. No member of the public has seen one in US possession. tens of millions have seen them. Prosaic or otherwise.
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« on: July 26, 2023, 12:36 »
With the current technology, it would take us more than 50.000 years to reach the nearest solar system, Proxima Centauri, which probably does not have a plant with life. Even with far more advanced technology the voyage would very likely take at least a numer of decades, if not centuries.
1. "The current technology" is the key word here. And that "current technology" is only a few generations ahead of the bicycle... In the grand scheme of things, it is probably incredibly primitive.
2. Einstein's physics superseded Newtonian physics. It is conceivable that for sufficiently advanced beings, Einsteinian physics is below kindergarten level, metaphorically speaking.
3. Even within Einsteinian physics, due to time dilation, time flows much more slowly for beings inside a fast-moving craft. Even if they can "only approach" the speed of light, not much time would pass inside the craft even if it has travelled for thousands of light years. From the perspective of a photon travelling at the speed of light, no time has elapsed even after the photon has travelled for billions of light years. For the photon, it happens instantly.
Also, we don't know anything about their lifespans. Maybe they just send drones, von Neumann's probes or whatever.
Maybe they have working Alcubierre drives. And Alcubierre drive is just one proposed loophole allowing to effectively reach the destination faster than light. Maybe there are other loopholes.
4. If they can operate in at least one more dimension than us (string theory proposes 11 dimensions), then they could instantly reach any point in our 4D spacetime. Our 4D spacetime would be like Flatland to them.
5. Watch some videos with Professor Donald Hoffman to understand why spacetime is not fundamental. It is conceivable that super highly-developed entities do not even travel THROUGH spacetime. This could potentially explain some of the "woo" things about the phenomenon.
The perception of 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension is what evolution gave us. It is not absolute and it is not fundamental. It was the minimum required for our survival as a species. Hoffman has showed evidence that evolution hid the rest of reality from our perception.
They? What they? There's nothing to prove or show that anyone or anything is actually visiting. That's a leap of faith, based on a hypothesis, which has no supporting factual evidence. Sure anyone can form a hypothesis, then move on to prove it? In the case of alien visitors, we have people who jump to a conclusion and then believe it's truth, without scientific evidence.
You can't make something true by just saying it is, or personally accepting some creative hypothesis as a fact. You need to have evidence, that can be confirmed, peer review, repeatable events, data collection, and some serious skepticism from even the people who want these things to be true, to prove they are true. Not just a wish and a dream.
We have no evidence that UAP or UFOs are alien visitors.
This statement died on its arse. Should of held off after the hearing Peter. Senator Garcia: Do you believe that UFOs put our pilots at risk and are a risk to national security Commander Fravor - Yes Grave - Yes Grusch - Yes Garvia - do you believe that the US governmnent are in possession of UAPs Grusch - Yes Garcia - Where are they and who has them. Grusch- I know the exact locations and I have provided the locations to the Inspector General of Inteligance. Get somw clearances Pete or give up at this point you look rediculous.
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« on: July 26, 2023, 03:27 »
To watch the UAP hearings live follow this link to the live stream. It is designated to begin at 10am Eastern Standard Time. However EST isn't a straight conversion to your local time. Google changes it to Eastern Time which is a catch all for EDT or EST because of daylight saving. For instance 10am ET translates to Greenwhich Mean Time (GMT) 2pm. But the Utube link says its live at 3pm GMT 🤦 Here is the link. Set notifications and hope for the best. LIVE CONGRESSIONAL UAP HEARINGS LINK
https://www.youtube.com/live/KQ7Dw-739VY?feature=share
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« on: July 25, 2023, 10:12 »
What do the aliens look like? We have all kinds of reports and claims, people have seen them and believe they have been abducted. What do aliens look like in their descriptions. That's a pretty basic and simple question? Is there any group consensus or collective way to describe the alien appearance?
What do UFOs look like. I mean, I can describe an airplane, boat or a car, can someone describe what the aliens travel in? No I don't expect anyone to understand the propulsion systems, just some nice basic data to build from?
There are all kind of photos and claims. Darn near everyone now carries a camera/phone that can take photos or video. I would expect we'd have more and better images, than in the old days.
After the disclosure or the official first contact, you should be able to buy an encyclopedia of aliens with illustrations. If you survive the ontological shock.
For now, the field is so muddied with hoaxes and disinformation, that for the average person it is difficult to figure out what is true.
Listen to serious and credible people like Elizondo, Nolan, Coulthart or Valle. You will not hear stories about the Galactic Federation or alien races from them. But what you hear from them sounds very serious. Elizondo and Nolan probably cannot disclose everything they know and have seen. Look up that famous "somber" comment from Elizondo...
There are plenty of reports from "experiences", just look for them. There are some recurring "races" of aliens in their stories, but it is up to you to judge how credible a given experiencer is. I will not do that for you. I am not trying to convince anyone about anything, but I wish some people expanded their intellectual horizons a little. It is great to be an open-minded skeptic, but it is stupid to be a denialist.
Why haven't we had a disclosure or an official first contact yet? Well, just look at this thread... Denialists and religious fundamentalists on the whole planet would probably go berserk... But things have accelerated greatly in the recent months for some reason. I think we are approaching that moment.
This will be just another farce from the UFO cult followers. These events are nothing but more programming for the weak minds of the brainwashed.
Here's the basis hypothesis. They see a light in the sky that they can't identify, it must be space aliens. A extreme leap and conclusion without any basis.
Who does?
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« on: July 25, 2023, 03:43 »
Commander Chad Underwood was stationed on the Nimitz and worked for David Fravor. After David Fravor engaged the UFO which came to be known as the Tic Tac returned to the Nimitz Chad Underwood was prepping for his flight. Favid Fravor said to him ... there's something wierd going on out there. If you can gets some film of it. He did. This is the Tic Tac film that was leaked and then confirmed by the USAF. Here he explains his experience https://youtu.be/4opsdH4hY3sIt's worth watching Mick Wests take on this which appears credible and is full of very convincing analysis and is a point of hilarity to those involved who actually use and know and are qualified to operate that equipment unlike Mick West who's only experience begins and ends with Google.
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« on: July 25, 2023, 00:56 »
But then, according to the non-denialists, they just hang around here for decades (or some people believe even for centuries or millenia) without making formal contact and sometimes get seen by some people and sometimes they lose an aircraft for whatever reason and don't seem to be able to retrieve it before the US government seizes it, inspite of their advanced technology.
1. The "losses" may very well be intentional. For example, an intelligence test for "wild primates" on this planet. Humans conduct similar tests with mirrors placed in jungles and forests. Or to cause certain developments on Earth, kind of like the monolith in Space Odyssey 2001.
2. The craft may be some cheap drones that they don't care about.
I think you're straying there. If abductions are to be believed no such tests would be required. Roswell - big electric storm reported that night as well as visual sighting of a craft. Plus ... if you're old enough to remember it, they were testing some sort of powerful radar around that time. "Crashing all the time" is a childish clich trotted out by people who lack any form of big picture ability. How many are here or come here denotes a value for "all the time". If several thousand a year visit ... 1 per 10 years is irrelevant given how much of our crap breaks due to mechanical failure. Weather. Poor skill due to illness or lack of ability. If 10 per year visit, 1 per decade isn't "all the time" either. People keep saying it though. Stupid people.
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« on: July 24, 2023, 12:41 »
FOAF kind of hearsay that most often doesn't trace back to any real individual at all. What people believe and how many believe, doesn't make something real.
If Grusch had been told BS, it raises many questions. Grusch is not some YouTube dude with a UFO podcast, he was tasked with this investigation by the Department of Defense. It's no joke, that thing was serious.
Now, if some people with very high clearances had decided to tell him fairy tales as part of his investigation, the obvious question is: WHY?
W-T-F is going on there? Lying to someone in his position, while he is conducting an investigation, is really serious. And if they believed in what they told him, then it's another "W-T-F is going on there?"
Just to be clear on my personal position. I'll wait and see how this plays out, before I start to believe or deny what he's claiming. That's a reasonable position, to see how the facts, evidence, and claims match up, before going into how this is a stunning new development. We've been reading bait for years, most of it is just wishing and hypothetical. Being that I'm older, I've been reading the SOS claims and promises and secret developments and discoveries, for many more years. 
.... People who want to know the truth, should be skeptical, and should ask difficult questions, before they are convinced and believe something that's highly unusual and extraordinary. Not the other way around.
Finally a mature well thought out response. Mostly. You won't get away without being pulled up for the previous know it all dismissive claptrap of your previous posts but at least here ... we've found a middle ground. Thank you Peter.
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« on: July 23, 2023, 18:08 »
FOAF kind of hearsay that most often doesn't trace back to any real individual at all. What people believe and how many believe, doesn't make something real.
If Grusch had been told BS, it raises many questions. Grusch is not some YouTube dude with a UFO podcast, he was tasked with this investigation by the Department of Defense. It's no joke, that thing was serious.
Now, if some people with very high clearances had decided to tell him fairy tales as part of his investigation, the obvious question is: WHY?
W-T-F is going on there? Lying to someone in his position, while he is conducting an investigation, is really serious. And if they believed in what they told him, then it's another "W-T-F is going on there?"
Probably all a misunderstanding. For example, if Grush asks anybody whether they think there is evidence for non-human intelligence on earth, any sensible person would answer: "Yes, of course!", probably not realizing that Grush for some reason seems to think that dolphins and chimpanzees are human.
Jesus ... bring out ya dead ... ding ... bring out ya dead
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« on: July 23, 2023, 18:06 »
FOAF kind of hearsay that most often doesn't trace back to any real individual at all. What people believe and how many believe, doesn't make something real.
If Grusch had been told BS, it raises many questions. Grusch is not some YouTube dude with a UFO podcast, he was tasked with this investigation by the Department of Defense. It's no joke, that thing was serious.
Now, if some people with very high clearances had decided to tell him fairy tales as part of his investigation, the obvious question is: WHY?
W-T-F is going on there? Lying to someone in his position, while he is conducting an investigation, is really serious. And if they believed in what they told him, then it's another "W-T-F is going on there?"
Wasting your breath. He can't help himself. It's tragic. He doesn't believe or care or matter or contribute ... seriously just look at what he writes compared to what's going on in the real world. It's literally tragic at this point.
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« on: July 22, 2023, 03:00 »
This will be just another farce from the UFO cult followers. These events are nothing but more programming for the weak minds of the brainwashed.
Denialists are the new conspiracy theorists There is a conspiracy behind any attempts to research anomalous phenomena and attempts to declassify stuff, LOL. Noland, Elizondo, Loeb belong to the conspiracy LMAO...
Why would people with respected careers in their fields risk being ridiculed? Because they are part of the conspiracy, LOL...But what are the goals of the conspiracy? Hmmm....
I know right. It's like Mick West. His loyal following have now started throwing questions at him. Many are turning on him. He appeared on newsnation and ... jeeze ... it was just clutching at straws. Any possible alternative is preferable to the obvious. Its light anomalies, weather but Micks favourite trope is "they believe it but they are obviously mistaking what they are seeing for something prosaic" ... he said ... from behind his computer screen .... and his book is on its second edition ... 🤦 ... he's gone so fringe in his debunking his own twitteraty were calling him out yesterday. It's funny because the professional skeptics like Seth Shostak are ... busy lol. Probably writing a new C.V.
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« on: July 20, 2023, 09:17 »
Tim Burchett interview about what's happened, what's happening and what will be happening. So no ambiguity... https://youtu.be/4tRNIa7LO4UNamed people testifying publicly on July 26th: David Grusch Ryan Graves David Fravor There have been others but as Burchett states they have withdrawn due to pressure not to testify. Whatever has happened may come to light.
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« on: July 19, 2023, 16:28 »
If these claims are not true, then some high-ranking US officials are nuts, mentally unstable or whatever.
Yeah, what else is new?
Denialism at this stage is nothing else than a religious belief. I don't know if Grusch and others are nuts.
"Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester, published a critique of the Grusch claims on June 22 with Big Think. Frank writes that he does "not find these claims exciting at all" because they are all "just hearsay" where "a guy says he knows a guy who knows another guy who heard from a guy that the government has alien spaceships".[24]"
From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grusch_UFO_whistleblower_claims
Sorry you've got muddled. It isnt hearsay in a legal sense which although I didn't look, I'm guessing your wiki link is then legal sense. If not sorry in advance. His claims are what you and me and everyone who is non intelligence services are allowed to hear. That should shock you to the core. You've been granted permission to hear that because he completed the proformas from DOPSR. West 🤡 led the charge that this meant it wasn't true because they only allow true stuff that's a national security issue to be stopped. As he was making this up he could go for his life... and his reputation could die a horrible death. But Mick West is an expert in computer programming and has ZERO other qualifications in the inteligence agencies or governmental procedures. If they prevented him it leant weight to his whistle blowers claims and instigated a full and thorough investigation which to prove he was lying ... theyde have to read in to these special programmes ... senators they didn't want looking. By allowing him, they bought themselves time. But Grusch doesn't need your belief or support because a year agohe testified to a panel of people within the intelligence agency and the top guy there audited his testimony and found it credible and urgent. This was rapidly sent to congress and they collected some congressional bodies and some senators advisors to listen to David Grusch. The advisors ran away and briefed their bosses and they too made him testify under oath and questioned him for 11 hours. This testimony and their findings after exhaustive investigation of his claims led them to create a UAP task force headed up by Sean Kirkpatrick. Some under informed chancers claim that Kirkpatricks claim "nothing credible" is where it stops. Wrong. 1. Kirkpatrick didn't have enough clerances to push into special projects. Particularly ad the investigation proved they they had been deliberately held in a holding programme labelled Radialogical Anomalies. Which meant that the clearness given AARO weren't entitled to look there. Other whistblowers whom Grusch has brought to congress ... A YEAR AGO .... taught congress that. So what we saw with Ross Coulthart is true. But it is only publicly new. Not new. But because the appointed are telling the elected to grow up and go away and write cheques and leave them alone ... too many facts are on the electeds side. This is bipartisan and it is from the top. This isn't going to flop. It isnt going to fade away. It is literally a game changer and if congress fails to overrule the Intelligence agencies who are trying to block this (why if it isn't true) ... then it will explode out in a different way. This time it is very much a case of you can't put this sit back in this horse. Never gonna happen. Too many people who don't care ... are in key positions to make this happen. Grusch pulled a master stroke. But then he is strategically brilliant.
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« on: July 18, 2023, 10:52 »
What do the aliens look like? We have all kinds of reports and claims, people have seen them and believe they have been abducted. What do aliens look like in their descriptions. That's a pretty basic and simple question? Is there any group consensus or collective way to describe the alien appearance?
What do UFOs look like. I mean, I can describe an airplane, boat or a car, can someone describe what the aliens travel in? No I don't expect anyone to understand the propulsion systems, just some nice basic data to build from?
There are all kind of photos and claims. Darn near everyone now carries a camera/phone that can take photos or video. I would expect we'd have more and better images, than in the old days.
After the disclosure or the official first contact, you should be able to buy an encyclopedia of aliens with illustrations. If you survive the ontological shock.
For now, the field is so muddied with hoaxes and disinformation, that for the average person it is difficult to figure out what is true.
Listen to serious and credible people like Elizondo, Nolan, Coulthart or Valle. You will not hear stories about the Galactic Federation or alien races from them. But what you hear from them sounds very serious. Elizondo and Nolan probably cannot disclose everything they know and have seen. Look up that famous "somber" comment from Elizondo...
There are plenty of reports from "experiences", just look for them. There are some recurring "races" of aliens in their stories, but it is up to you to judge how credible a given experiencer is. I will not do that for you. I am not trying to convince anyone about anything, but I wish some people expanded their intellectual horizons a little. It is great to be an open-minded skeptic, but it is stupid to be a denialist.
Why haven't we had a disclosure or an official first contact yet? Well, just look at this thread... Denialists and religious fundamentalists on the whole planet would probably go berserk... But things have accelerated greatly in the recent months for some reason. I think we are approaching that moment.
This will be just another farce from the UFO cult followers. These events are nothing but more programming for the weak minds of the brainwashed.
Blimey that's quite a sweeping statement and given the recent events in Congress a little bit of a missinformed one. Senators Schumer and Rounds have issued an amendment to declassified any and all meterial relating to UFOs, UAPs and material of non human origin to be held, catalogued and held for historic importance and research by the public. This in the wave of the discovery that much of this meterial was being held under a non related classification of Radialogical nature. This meant that the legislation could hide it under that umbrella. No longer. It must be made available. Further any and all material of nonbhuman origin and uaps and ufos and related materials will now automatically be owned by the governmnent and keeping it will be a serious offence. There are going to be financial incentives to come foreward and disclose what you know, how, and what you have. They want all of it. Anyone threatening or attempting to force people to sign non disclosure agreements (which is allegedly happening rapidly) will be prosecuted and the NDA null and void. No matter who it originates from. Rumours has it that Lockhead Martin are in quite a flap and jave been trying to offload theirs. They requested that the classification be opened to allow a larger research group and this was denied and threats made. So they aren't happy. They aren't the only one. So you look at all that and the laws that are being drafted enmass regarding this and then look at what you typed. 😆 🤣 https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-rounds-introduce-new-legislation-to-declassify-government-records-related-to-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-and-ufos_modeled-after-jfk-assassination-records-collection-act--as-an-amendment-to-ndaa
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« on: July 16, 2023, 18:20 »
Silver sphere filmed bobbing about initially. Those clouds do cause turbulence if it were a balloon. But those clouds are around 4 thousand feet and a balloon would be much lower or it eouod be the size of a very large house. But then the object tracks away and as it leaves the frame another follows it. interesting stuff coming out via social media https://streamable.com/bmp1pt
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« on: July 16, 2023, 03:18 »
Well this explains a lot. So I always look for niche areas I can exploit. This is one that I'll leave to others.
Testicular Cancer is on the rise and this is the offering for it with A.I. One image ...
Aside from the obvious complete lack of medical accuracy ... this is the description.
A.i. images are not reviewed. End of story and please don't abuse it ... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ... I'm sure it won't be abused.
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« on: July 16, 2023, 03:08 »
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« on: July 15, 2023, 03:29 »
Burchett and Luna confirm House UFO hearing date is July 26th 2023 ..... 😊😊😊 ... what will be revealed ...
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« on: July 15, 2023, 03:16 »
Oh dear god ... Clearance Jobs, an organization that defines itself as the largest career network for professionals with federal government security clearance, has issued an apparent letter of guidance to its personnel to help them understand the consequences of whistle blowing. Their legal team has gone over a variety of scenario's in their letter and site David Grusch as an example. They claim that he may think he is legally protected but in fact he has made a mistake and that he has done nothing other than offer a public good which although admirable, isn't a defence in law. So they claim he has put himself at risk of prison for revealing his experiences under the whistle blower act but didn't satisfy the criteria to be protected by it. Chillingly their lawyer asserts that should anyone do this and not make sure they are protected .... Though your career is over and you are sitting in a jail cell, you are still, ethically, at least, on solid footing, Brown offers. Strictly from a utilitarian perspective, your act did the maximum amount of good for the maximum amount of people. As a matter of deontology, you had a duty to do something so intrinsically good and right. And ultimately, good government should be as transparent as possible and accountable to its citizens. And you can reflect on all this as you decay in a federal penitentiary. Dont worry, though. Youve got a heck of a book deal waiting for you on the other side. A significant threat if ever there was one wrapped in a 'helpful' format. Clearly Clearance Jobs thought they needed to quickly lay it all out there ... stupidly showing that there is something to be found. They state "leaving lizard people out of this for a moment" ... but thats all the whistle blower act protects in this context. UAPs and UFOs and material of non human origin/inteligence ... Lizard or otherwise. Was meant to be an internal memo to all departments and ended up in the press. Where should we focus our attention I wonder ... duh! source https://news.clearancejobs.com/2023/07/13/how-to-blow-the-whistle-if-you-work-with-flying-saucers-and-their-alien-pilots/
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« on: July 14, 2023, 16:28 »
The latest... UAP amendment to disclosure ... At the appropriate place, insert the following: TITLE lUNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA DISCLOSURE 5 SEC. ll01. SHORT TITLE. This title may be cited as the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023 or the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023. These are amendments that have been submitted. Source government pdf link https://democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf
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« on: July 13, 2023, 05:40 »
Congreswoman Anna Paulina Luna (asked by Comer to co-chair the hearings) is briefly interviewed by Matt Laslo regarding the upcoming open UAP hearings which will bring forth further Whistel blowers who have more information regarding the UAP phenomena and what it means for the human race. In this brief interview he asks her what is the format and plan and outcome ....
ML: Have you guysare you going to be focusing on the whistleblowersGruschs mates? Trying to corroborate his story? I think, Gillibrand says thats what shes gonna do but sounds like you guys here are trying to be a little broader?
APL: So what we're focusing on is, one, getting the information out to the American people: Clearly, this is a big galaxy that we live in and that there is very likely technology that we are unaware of where its come fromand so, does this pose a national security threat?
And then, as far as UAP goes, I mean, the Air Force had a program called Project BLUE BOOK that was established, and there's archived information. Were going to be pulling that information out and presenting that to the American people.
But it's important that instead of trying to make this conspiratorial and poo-pooing it, that people are actually understanding that it's very likely that there's other life forms out there and that we're not alone in this universe and that we can address these things with a scientific mindset.
Further several aerospace engineers employed at various firms have been contacted by the heads and told that they are not permitted to speak to the press and that any and all comments or information will be referred directly to the congressional AARO team.
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