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« on: March 20, 2015, 13:45 »
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Symbiostock was created to allow independent artists to run their own photography websites while forming a network to cooperate in searches. The Symbiostock Global Network expanded this concept by searching images from all Symbiostock sites This is a free service available to all Symbiostock sites. Now we can also include images from non-independent artists who share the Symbiosdtock goal but maintain their images on non-Symbiostock sites. This requires an extra step in collecting an integrating data from multiple platforms. 

A $25 registration fee adds your site to the global database and indexes your images and keywords. Those images will appear in searches, and will display a thumbnail of your image. When searchers click on your image they go directly to your site. You retain full control on pricing and licensing, and, of course, retain 100% of any sales. When processed, your images will remain in the global network for at least 1 year, or until you request their removal, or your site is no longer functional.

We can currently accept Photodeck based sites, and will be adding other platforms as requests are received.
 
Most sites will need to be updated to reflect new images added, and update or delete older images.  Updates are available in several ways:
+$15 for a one time update
+$30 annual fee for quarterly updates
+$60 annual fee for monthly updates

Updates are processed around the 5th of each month.

Until Jun 30, 2015, artists can join for the reduced fee of $70 for setup and 1 year of monthly updates - an $85 value

Contact us by PM to get started


« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2015, 17:19 »
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Cooperation started.
I would like to add that site of photographer itself does not need to be updated.
We will need metadata backups in any format or site maps or both or nothing, in some cases we will create another type of profile. All depends from platform which hosts site of photographer.
Example of already integrated website you can see searching for example "Belgium" at http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp  Search will return images with watermark "artnethouse". Click on link below image thumbnail, and you will be redirected to image details page on artnethouse.photodeck.com. This is how looks like final result for now. Many plans are waiting implementation in future.
Who is interested please pm.
All applications for subscription and payments will be done by cascoly. Our company will handle integration part and related communications.
For many it is finish of headache with uploading of images to multiple sites and repeated attributing.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2015, 17:21 by skyfish »

« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2015, 18:17 »
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Is this the search page? How much hourly traffic is it generating for that price? How many searches ?

« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2015, 19:00 »
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Is this the search page? How much hourly traffic is it generating for that price? How many searches ?


there are several thousand searches per day - a lot of it search engines that then use the results indirectly(eg, google will search a keyword, then index the resulting generated page)

the symbiostock only version was & will remain free; it requires my attention to ensure sites are active, etc;  if there's enough interest, there are further steps that could be automated, reducing the price

« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2015, 20:15 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php

« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2015, 21:11 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp

« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2015, 21:25 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Doesn't Work:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Could not use '(unknown)'; file already in use.

/symbio/i-list-func.asp, line 234

« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 02:16 »
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Just tried. It works.
Probably Steve is doing something on his site.  Noted that from iPhone result of search was coming 2 times more quickly.

« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2015, 03:21 »
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1. Steve, I tried it it with your search. It worked but it took a long time.

2. Ajotte's search. Much quicker to return search results, but for some reason, my symbiostock site (advantica.com/stockphotos) is not showing up in ajotte's list and search. How do I request to be included in that list and search?

« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 03:28 by LesPalenik »

« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2015, 03:40 »
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Knowing that there is a good potential for integration, i am sure Steve will optimize search engine work and appearance of the site.  Did you try to contact Ajotte? From copyright line he is Andrzej Tokarski, http://ajotte.com
His contact page http://ajotte.com/contact/?r=ajotte.com
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 03:45 by skyfish »

« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2015, 04:01 »
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Thanks for finding Andrzej's contact page, I sent him an email.

« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2015, 15:25 »
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First FAQ for integration service published on http://artnethouse.photodeck.com/symbiostock-integration
We continue to extend it to cover all necessary information

« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2015, 15:53 »
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It isn't working at all for me. I did a test search and was surprised to see only 7 results - I guess this search doesn't include existing Symbiostock sites? - and it gave an error anyway. It was very slow (the error took a while to happen) and the page is not pleasing to look at. Is the idea that buyers will use this search or only that it will make included sites more visible to Google?

I'd get the site working before asking people to take a look, especially as it isn't a free service

Searching for Keyword TROPICAL BEACH
7 images found
time2= 57067.93

x=121 ok=True n=0 maxrec=200
Objrs.eof False
x=121 ok=True n=0 maxrec=200
Objrs.eof False
n=0 0 200
ADODB.Recordset error '800a0cc1'

Item cannot be found in the collection corresponding to the requested name or ordinal.

/symbio/i-list-rec.asp, line 278

« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2015, 15:55 »
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[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Could not use '(unknown)'; file already in use.

Surely it's not running on Access ?

Can Access even cope with 2 users searching at the same time ?

« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2015, 16:53 »
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As i understood, Steve is currently doing something on his site.
Bunhill: please make difference between desktop and web server placed Access database. Concurrency restrictions can be bypassed exactly because the database is on server. For now after optimization Access capacity will be enough to give time to migrate to something more poweful.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 16:58 by skyfish »

« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2015, 17:36 »
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Bunhill: please make difference between desktop and web server placed Access database. Concurrency restrictions can be bypassed exactly because the database is on server. For now after optimization Access capacity will be enough to give time to migrate to something more poweful.

No. Access is simply not scalable. It is a completely inappropriate solution.

Anyone who knows anything at all about databases will tell you the same.

« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2015, 17:43 »
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Google will help you.
Solution on cascoly was already existing and will be used till Steve decides to do changes on site which belongs to him.
Also received sexist messages through query string of website will not stop me. Steve is doing his work, i did already mine. Currently i have integration routines for biggest photo hosts and clear understanding that part of people will not be happy that integration solution is enough close to become usual.

« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2015, 17:46 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Frankly, I didn't realize there were two search sites. Not sure why we need two.

I've always sent image-shopping friends to the one I linked to (http://symbiostock.info/index.php), and they've seemed happy with the results. The page is attractive and clean, not junked up with ads. Also, the "recently added images" feature at the top keeps it looking fresh, not to mention the subtle promotional aspect of that impressive list of affiliated sites below.

« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2015, 18:55 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Frankly, I didn't realize there were two search sites. Not sure why we need two.

I've always sent image-shopping friends to the one I linked to (http://symbiostock.info/index.php), and they've seemed happy with the results. The page is attractive and clean, not junked up with ads. Also, the "recently added images" feature at the top keeps it looking fresh, not to mention the subtle promotional aspect of that impressive list of affiliated sites below.


ajt's is just an image search, while my site gives more information about sites, shows networking partners, promoted keywords, keyword analysis, etc

the site has been working for the last 2 years, and worked fine when we tested it earlier with the new sites.  then something went awry, giving those error messages --- everything's working fine again now
« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 02:31 by cascoly »

« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2015, 05:14 »
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Steve, great, it works! And already looks better.
I am sure it will be beautiful site finally.

« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2015, 09:51 »
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It just doesn't seem serious. It's really slow and it looks like it comes from 1995. Plus the spammy ads.

And it's built on Access which will never scale.

« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2015, 10:25 »
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You only showed your aggression to person which does something. You - do nothing good.
You emphasize that it is stack but you know nothing about the project and what is preparing. Your negative attitude will not stop Steve from what he is doing now and what he will do later.
Nobody here attacks Steve and me. Only you. Better you reread what was above.

« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2015, 11:12 »
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It's honest opinion, not aggression. Also - I know a good deal about relational databases, SQL, systems analysis etc.

FWIW I have always been very positive about the motivation behind Symbiostock - whilst being honestly skeptical about the implementation and the lack of the sort of group structures which are typically a hallmark of successful Open Source projects.

« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2015, 11:22 »
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No. You did not left place for honesty. I saw your anger just because it was not your idea. I received many offences on my site. IP addresses are different, but i will keep records.

« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2015, 13:00 »
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You only showed your aggression to person which does something. You - do nothing good.
You emphasize that it is stack but you know nothing about the project and what is preparing. Your negative attitude will not stop Steve from what he is doing now and what he will do later.
Nobody here attacks Steve and me. Only you. Better you reread what was above.


You should probably go back and read all of the threads here about the project from day 1. It is my opinion that SY has no advantages for phototgraphers, other than provide a wordpress theme for them. The networking only has advantages for a few key developing people and it is to their advantage to get as many people on board.


I dont care whether any opinion stops steve, you (whoever you are) or the others involved. I think everyone should know both sides of the truth.  ;)


 

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