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« on: September 01, 2021, 05:07 »
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you can no longer say things such as "An American" because it is offensive

You can no longer say "an intelligent person", now you have to say "a person with intelligence"

You can no longer say "An American person", it has to be "A person from America"

You can't say "A winner", you have to say "A person who has won"

You can't say a "cook", you have to say "a person who cooks"

You can no longer say "A patient", it has to be "a person who has sickness"

You can no longer say "A fireman", it has to be "A person who is employed in fire suppression as a career"

great job. well thought out.


« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2021, 05:08 »
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I am a fat person, I am Italian, I am American, I am pre-diabetic, I am also a short person.

« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2021, 05:10 »
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please remember to send an email to all your customers / stock buyers notifying them they cannot do searches anymore for 'hispanic' because they are being racist

(hispanic means "a person who speaks spanish", as defined by US government)

« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2021, 05:41 »
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You make it sound like Shutterstock doesn't want the use of adjectives, but that's not what the guidelines say?

They don't say you are supposed to say "a person of hispanic origin" instead of " a hispanic person". They say you are not supposed to say "A hispanic" only, without referring to a hispanic person as a person. And that's an example taken directly from the guidelines.
They basically don't want you to use Adjectives as nouns, which, strictly speaking, isn't grammatically correct anyways. How they are to go about this with keywords I don't know though. I would never have titeled an image with for example a hispanic woman as "A Hispanic doing yoga". I would always have written "A hispanic woman doing yoga", for example. But of course I would have used the word "hispanic" in they keywords. It's an adjective accurately discribing the image after all.

It's kind of confusing - ever since I have been a member of Shutterstock, they keep sending me shot lists in which they tell me they want diversity. Like, EACH month. It's always: Add more black people, add more Asian people, add more homosexual people, add more disabled people, add more overweight people" and so on.... but now SS wants me to add more diverse people, but doesn't possibly want me to describe them with accurate adjectives, so cusomers searching for these keywords won't even find the images?  I guess I am lucky I don't shoot people then. It seems like a new confusing guideline that the reviewers will randomly misinterpret like they do with the similar rule. SS' guidelines on similar images were pretty clear actually, yet reviewers keep randomly rejecting images that are completely in complaice with the gudielines and others keep ignoring the gudielines completely, aproving 30 almost identical images in a row.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2021, 05:57 by Firn »

« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2021, 05:56 »
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according to SS you cannot say:

"Italians live in Italy"

or "Americans like to eat fast food"

"A Hispanic walks into a bar" is not offensive. in English, the word "person" is implied

"a diabetic" is not an offensive phrase


Banned from shutterstock under new guidelines for being offensive:

"I love Hispanics"

"I help diabetics out of my love for medicine"

"I love Americans"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanics who recovered"

« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2021, 05:58 »
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according to SS you cannot say:

Banned from shutterstock under new guidelines for being offensive:

"I love Hispanics"

"I help diabetics out of my love for medicine"

"I love Americans"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanics who recovered"
They want you to use it like this:

"I love hispanic people"

"I help diabetic people out of my love for medicine"

"I love American people"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanic people who recovered"


It's better anyways, because if a cusomer seraches for "diapetic person", he will not get shown your image titeled/keyworded  with "diabetic" only. On the other hand a customer searching for "diabetic" only will get an image titeled/keyworded "diabetic person" as well.
And it really makes sense to add "person" or "woman", "child" or "man" to it, otherwise it's really not very specific. Could just as well be a diabetic cat, which might not be what the customer is looking for at all.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2021, 06:04 by Firn »

« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2021, 06:01 »
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permitted on shutterstock:

"photo of a hispanic person failing to win the race to faster white runner"

"photo of person with diabetes overconsuming sugary foods while white doctor advises him not to"

"photo of hispanic person stabbing a white person"

now I get it, the above are not offensive

« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2021, 06:03 »
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according to SS you cannot say:

Banned from shutterstock under new guidelines for being offensive:

"I love Hispanics"

"I help diabetics out of my love for medicine"

"I love Americans"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanics who recovered"
They want you to use it like this:

"I love hispanics people"

"I help diabetic people out of my love for medicine"

"I love American people"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanic people who recovered"


It's better anyways, because if a cusomer seraches for "diapetic person", he will not get shown your image titeled/keyworded  with "diabetic" only. On the other hand a customer searching for "diabetic" only will get an image titeled/keyworded "diabtic person" as well.

your idea of adding 'person' is wrong because it does not specify if it is a good person or a bad person. it dehumanizes good people because it lumps all good and bad people together. try:


"I love good hispanic people"

"I help good diabetic people out of my love for medicine"

"I love good American people"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the good diabetc hispanic people who recovered"

« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2021, 06:04 »
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using "I" is dehumanizing.

you must say "I as a person" in order to not be offensive.

« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2021, 06:06 »
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according to SS you cannot say:

Banned from shutterstock under new guidelines for being offensive:

"I love Hispanics"

"I help diabetics out of my love for medicine"

"I love Americans"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanics who recovered"
They want you to use it like this:

"I love hispanics people"

"I help diabetic people out of my love for medicine"

"I love American people"

"Let's give a round of applause for all the diabetc hispanic people who recovered"


It's better anyways, because if a cusomer seraches for "diapetic person", he will not get shown your image titeled/keyworded  with "diabetic" only. On the other hand a customer searching for "diabetic" only will get an image titeled/keyworded "diabtic person" as well.

your idea of adding 'person' is wrong because it does not specify if it is a good person or a bad person. it dehumanizes good people because it lumps all good and bad people together. try:


I don't care whether it  is"wrong" or "right" to you, it's what the Shutterstock guidelines say you are supposed to do and this is a therad about Shutterstock's guidelines.

Quote
Use adjectives and not nouns when referring to a persons race or ethnicity.

    e.g., say a Hispanic person (adj.) rather than a Hispanic (n.)


« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2021, 06:06 »
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you should never say "medicine" because some medicines are harmful, such as macrolide antibiotics.

from now on, you must always say "medicines that are not harmful" and stop using offensive and harmful words such as "medicine"

« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2021, 06:11 »
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it is offensive to use the term "Shutterstock" because some cameras do not use shutters, and therefor it hurts the feelings of camera owners that have cameras that do not use shutters. therefor the name should be changed to:

Stock-from-shutter-and-non-shutter-based-cameras.com

also you have to stop using ".com" because it implies capitalism.

« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2021, 06:14 »
0
What has happened to this forum

« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2021, 06:19 »
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you said: "I don't care whether it  is"wrong" or "right" to you, it's what the Shutterstock guidelines say you are supposed to do and this is a therad about Shutterstock's guidelines."

in France it is illegal for a private company to regulate language

« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2021, 06:23 »
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ok, now I understand.

you should not say "A diebetic in a fast food restaurant eating a hamburger" because it does not indicate that it is a person, and dogs can be diabetic so people looking at the photo of the person might think he is a dog


I went to my doctor and said "I am diabetic" and he was confused because he was not sure if I was a person or not

I told my friend "I am Italian" and everyone got offended

« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2021, 06:25 »
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you cannot say "photo of an Italian walking into a bar" because people might think it is Italian food walking into the bar and not a person.

or they might think it is some other Italian non-human thing in the photo.

« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2021, 06:28 »
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is Shutterstock a company? because they do not identify themselves as "the Shutterstock Company" so I am confused if they have been de-companied. saying "I work at Shutterstock" reduces the corporate status because we do not know if Shutterstock is a company or a person. does it mean they work for a person named Shutterstock? we need strict guidelines for this.


« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2021, 06:33 »
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can we say "a mechanic fixing a car" or do we have to say "a person who is a mechanic fixing a car"

can we say "a psychologist" or do we have to say "a person with a degree in psychology"

can we say "a student studying" or do we have to say "a person who is a student engaging in a behavior that by definition is to study"

« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2021, 06:37 »
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something you should add to your guidelines.

some parents are not human. for example, dogs can be parents. so I think it is offensive to use the word 'parents' to describe humans. therefor, please add a guideline that any reference to 'parents' that are human should be written as 'human parents' so there is no confusion and no dehumanization.



« Last Edit: September 01, 2021, 07:04 by unnonimus »

« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2021, 06:38 »
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my father is a biological male.

you forgot to add to your guidelines that we should always say "biological male father" to differentiate between a photo of a "non biological male father". we don't want to diminish someone's parental status

also you failed to announced that 'pregnant mother' must always be written as 'birthing person who is pregnant'

« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2021, 06:41 »
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I do like your idea about age ranges. we should use an age range to describe people as mentioned in your guidelines. for example, I could say "65 year old person" instead of 'pensioner' because pensioner implies the person is not human.

I will now start using the same idea for weight. such as a '300 pound person with 40 inch waste' instead of a fat person. I will bring a scale to all of my shoots with models and weigh them all and I will be sure to disclose it prominently in my images

and for the women I will put their dress size instead of saying they are fat

I will do the same for students. if the student is posing as being stupid, I will just put "90 IQ person" so it is not offensive.

« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2021, 06:45 »
+1

« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2021, 06:54 »
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some suggestions for banning:

"damaged car" should be written as "automobile that has sustained damage"

"pollution" should be "environmental area that is polluted"

all religious words also need to be removed because some people are not religious.

please remove all references to christmas, thanksgiving, halloween, and other holidays as they are not inclusive.

« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2021, 06:56 »
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some people are color blind. please remove all references to color from your site.

please remove all american flags because they are offensive.

« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2021, 06:58 »
+2
not everyone understands english. please remove all use of english from your site and only use international languages.

some people have lower incomes and cannot afford to buy stock photos. please make all stock photos free so as to fulfill your destiny of being inclusive.


 

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