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« on: March 03, 2022, 17:18 »
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I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.


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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2022, 01:29 »
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Which specific sanctions are they breaking?

« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2022, 02:23 »
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I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.

Also emailed Alamy about them still selling ITAR-TASS supplied images and got this reply

"There are high level discussions going on within Alamy about what we can do. We are constantly reviewing our approach in line with sanctions operating against Russia and will continue to monitor this. "

Money talks  :(
« Last Edit: March 05, 2022, 02:23 by Mimi the Cat »

« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 02:25 »
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Which specific sanctions are they breaking?

Obviously none of the current sanctions.

How about doing the right thing?

« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2022, 02:28 »
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Obviously none of the current sanctions.

How about doing the right thing?

Not strong on politics or economics here, but I think we all overestimate the impact of the sanctions.
I get regular downloads from Russia too, subscriptions, which are probably already paid for before the sanctions and SWIFT ban came into action.

When money talks, the right thing has to shut up. Unfortunately.

« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2022, 07:43 »
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Which specific sanctions are they breaking?

all these 10 cents licences are bought by Oligarchs, how do you think they became billionaires  ;)

« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 08:15 »
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Same here.
I don't need this.

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2022, 08:19 »
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I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.

Putin doesn't care. These sanctions are ineffective and only civilians and small/medium businesses are affected. It's a ridiculous instrument if the goal is to let the people stand up to the regime. Any protest against the regime is forcefully stopped by police and protesters are risking their own and their families lives for it. Yet the sanctions are not lifted the next day, and somehow western governments feel the need to keep punishing them?

« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2022, 09:17 »
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I think it is already affecting them. Putin remembers me of those children that play with a flame under their hands. Everyone puts a poker face and says it does not hut but eventually it does and they have to retire the hand. All people will be impacted by this suffocating strategy. I would accelerate it even more. economy rules the world. Yes you can be the new North Korea.

 Let's see what the elite (military politician and financial) think about the stand of Putin in a week, in a month in 3 months. Constant and increasing pressure and Putin will back down. He will not nuke none because he is perfectly aware that's the end game and for Russia too.

If A UN resolution would authorize an aerial exclusion zone, we would have Putin out of Ukrania quite fast. NATO I don't know. It's more a risky game. But the economical pressures are correct.



I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.

Putin doesn't care. These sanctions are ineffective and only civilians and small/medium businesses are affected. It's a ridiculous instrument if the goal is to let the people stand up to the regime. Any protest against the regime is forcefully stopped by police and protesters are risking their own and their families lives for it. Yet the sanctions are not lifted the next day, and somehow western governments feel the need to keep punishing them?

« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2022, 15:38 »
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If A UN resolution would authorize an aerial exclusion zone, we would have Putin out of Ukrania quite fast. NATO I don't know. It's more a risky game. ...

1st a UN resolution would be vetoed by Russia, but even a US or NATO resolution would either be toothless or result in actual conflict and a vastly expanded war.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/lets-be-clear-establishing-a-no-fly-zone-is-an-act-of-war/276319/

« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2022, 03:20 »
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War maybe, over Ucrania. We have that already but with a giant bulling a small child. Nuclear war I doubt it, for many reasons but Putin and his militar staff will not push a botton that means a shoot in their own heads. The same way if Putin finally attacks a NATO member NATO will also not push the nuclear button. Nobody wants self destruction.


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If A UN resolution would authorize an aerial exclusion zone, we would have Putin out of Ukrania quite fast. NATO I don't know. It's more a risky game. ...

1st a UN resolution would be vetoed by Russia, but even a US or NATO resolution would either be toothless or result in actual conflict and a vastly expanded war.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/lets-be-clear-establishing-a-no-fly-zone-is-an-act-of-war/276319/

« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2022, 04:53 »
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I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.

Putin doesn't care. These sanctions are ineffective and only civilians and small/medium businesses are affected. It's a ridiculous instrument if the goal is to let the people stand up to the regime. Any protest against the regime is forcefully stopped by police and protesters are risking their own and their families lives for it. Yet the sanctions are not lifted the next day, and somehow western governments feel the need to keep punishing them?

I think it is to get the oligarchs and generals to apply pressure on Putin to end the war, not the ordinary people who are caught in the cross fire. Some estimates have 80% of the countrys wealth stashed off shore by these people. They mostly live their lives jet setting around the world enjoying places not completely devastated by wealth extraction. If sanctions are actually applied properly it could make a difference. But given the track record of some countries (looking at you United Kingdom) I doubt they will be.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2022, 11:08 »
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Which specific sanctions are they breaking?

Obviously none of the current sanctions.

How about doing the right thing?

Well sure, but doing the right thing or not, is slightly different than breaking sanctions that don't currently exist.

« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2022, 13:36 »
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2022, 13:41 »
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Russian contributors using paypal have a problem.

https://www.reuters.com/business/paypal-shuts-down-its-services-russia-citing-ukraine-aggression-2022-03-05/
Not just contributosr, buyers as well.

But they can still use Skrill, at least for now.

Payoneer and Adobe apparently suspended bussiness with Russia as well.

« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2022, 13:56 »
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The bigger question would be how come Ukraine is still allowing and insisting that Russian gas travels trough their country on its way to Europe ?

I would cut that off the first day if it was up to me.


« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2022, 14:10 »
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The bigger question would be how come Ukraine is still allowing and insisting that Russian gas travels trough their country on its way to Europe ?

I would cut that off the first day if it was up to me.


Then you'd probably lessen your chance of getting any support - may it be in the form of weapon deliveries, money or taking in refugees - from some European countries as, very unfortunately, they depend on gas from Russia. I can tell you, here in Germany the talk about fear of what will happen if we were to be cut off rom the gas supply is as presnet in the media as the talk about the war itself.  It's also the reason why at first Germany opposed to thea idea of cutting Russia off from the SWIFT system - they feared that without it they could not pay and therefore get the gass and they only agreed to it when it was made sure that there were still possibilities to make the payments.

(If you ask me, the gas supply from Russia should have been cut off many many years ago and alternatives should have been established way before that. The gas supply was one of the main reasons why so many countries kept tiptoeing around Putin for many years. But it didn't happen, so now we are in this mess.)
« Last Edit: March 05, 2022, 14:19 by Firn »


« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2022, 14:25 »
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The bigger question would be how come Ukraine is still allowing and insisting that Russian gas travels trough their country on its way to Europe ?

I would cut that off the first day if it was up to me.


Then you'd probably lessen your chance of getting any support - may it be in the form of weapon deliveries, money or taking in refugees - from some European countries as, very unfortunately, they depend on gas from Russia. I can tell you, here in Germany the talk about fear of what will happen if we were to be cut off rom the gas supply is as presnet in the media as the talk about the war itself. 

(If you ask me, the gas supply from Russia should have been cut off many many years ago and alternatives should have been established way before that. The gas supply was one of the main reasons why so many countries kept tiptoeing around Putin for many years. But it didn't happen, so now we are in this mess.)

Exactly, so that's how the west really supports Ukraine. As long as it doesn't hit them. Changing the light colors on the museums and waving flags. And praising their bravery while they are about to be cut off and completely surrounded bit by bit.   

And how are they paying for that gas if Russia is financially cut off ? A why would Russia provide the gas if they are not being payed ?

Nothing is as it seems and Ukrainian diplomacy played this game naive and in favor of everyone but its own people. No wonder they were getting that applause at EU parlament.

 

« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2022, 14:30 »
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Russian contributors using paypal have a problem.

https://www.reuters.com/business/paypal-shuts-down-its-services-russia-citing-ukraine-aggression-2022-03-05/
Not just contributosr, buyers as well.

But they can still use Skrill, at least for now.

Payoneer and Adobe apparently suspended bussiness with Russia as well.
Yes, especially since Visa and Mastercard transactions with Russia were blocked 4 days ago.
This explains the recent message from Shutterstock.

« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2022, 14:39 »
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Exactly, so that's how the west really supports Ukraine. As long as it doesn't hit them. Changing the light colors on the museums and waving flags. And praising their bravery while they are about to be cut off and completely surrounded bit by bit.   

Now, this is something we both can agree with (to a certain extent)

It's a bit more than just your colorful lights, but as I keep on repeating, not enough. The public opinion must convince these weak politicians to do what's right.

« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2022, 14:58 »
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But they can still use Skrill, at least for now.

Are you sure? I can see Skrill on the list of companies who stopped doing business with Russia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_that_applied_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2022, 15:04 »
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And how are they paying for that gas if Russia is financially cut off ? A why would Russia provide the gas if they are not being payed ?

 

As already said above, Germany only agreed to to cut off of Russia from SWIFT if they could still pay for the gas.
So Russia is not really cut off, Russia privides the gas, because they are still being paid.

The SWIFT sanctions do not affect all, but only specifically Russian banks, which have been subject to other sanctions since the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014. Effects on the processing of energy transactions have been avoided.

There are a lot of articles about this in the German press explaining this, though I couldn't really find any in English.

« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2022, 23:14 »
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Ukraine has no allies in the West. All these ridiculous demonstrative support is just for the sake of PR. All collected charitable money will be stolen and all weapons sent will be lost. Such a country...

Russia will continue to function. The people will live freed from the western husk. McDonald's and KFC are gone. Will they worry about it when there is borscht and fried potatoes?

Most likely, after a few years of recession, we will get a strong country with a developed economy. Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2022, 23:17 by MrVector »

« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2022, 01:36 »
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Ukraine has no allies in the West. All these ridiculous demonstrative support is just for the sake of PR. All collected charitable money will be stolen and all weapons sent will be lost. Such a country...

Russia will continue to function. The people will live freed from the western husk. McDonald's and KFC are gone. Will they worry about it when there is borscht and fried potatoes?

Most likely, after a few years of recession, we will get a strong country with a developed economy. Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.

Oh look another Putin Kool Aid drinker ~ dream on buddy  ::)

« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2022, 01:57 »
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Ukraine has no allies in the West. All these ridiculous demonstrative support is just for the sake of PR. All collected charitable money will be stolen and all weapons sent will be lost. Such a country...

Russia will continue to function. The people will live freed from the western husk. McDonald's and KFC are gone. Will they worry about it when there is borscht and fried potatoes?

Most likely, after a few years of recession, we will get a strong country with a developed economy. Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.

Ukraine has its gates wide open to the West - unlike Russia, which has lost its reputation, all diplomatic and trade relations. All that remains for Russia as a credible trading partner is China, which completely sets the prices for Russian exports (i.e. pays a below-cost price for them).

There are still two trains a day from St Petersburg to Helsinki, full of young, educated people who have realised the impossibility of life in today's Russia. These highly educated young people no longer have any faith in the Putin regime. That is why they are leaving the country in search of better living opportunities anywhere else but Russia.

The effects of the embargo on Russia will be felt in a harsh way when new products no longer enter the market. In the West, when a product breaks down, a new one is bought to replace it. Russia will become the new Cuba - old equipment will be serviced over and over again even though its life cycle is long over.

Russian media propaganda is clearly working on some of the people, as MrVector sees a bright future for his country. Apparently, a complete brainwashed cannot see anything but the lies produced by his own state. Fortunately, not all Russians live under this delusion, so there is still a little hope.

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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2022, 11:23 »
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Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.

You spelled Ukraine wrong.

« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2022, 11:57 »
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Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.

You spelled Ukraine wrong.

Exactly!

Otherwise, we can see that we have more than enough examples in this forum to better understand how effective Putin's propaganda machine is.

I'm convinced that these sanctions will not work unless toughened way beyond what we have in place now (e.g. no more Petro-dollars to sponsor Putin's war machine), AND kept in place for several years, or enough time to make the regular Russians realize that something is wrong with their Dear Leader.

It took Romanians years of suffering, with rationed food, rationed gas, in dark and cold apartments, in much worse conditions than the Russians have today before realizing that enough is enough.

So, MrVector has a point, not because Russians are special, but because it takes years and even generations to root out the damage inflicted by propaganda.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2022, 15:11 by Zero Talent »


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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2022, 13:10 »
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Everybody is using propoganda. The russians are and the Ukranians as well. Zelinksy and his ministers tweeted pictures that were not of this war but from long ago or even in another country. The fear that was spread about the nuclear reactor that would leak when there was no power and all of Europe would have a problem, is not true, also according to IAEA.
The latest is the children's hospital. It all seems to staged. If a hospital was working fully and then I would have expected many people about. I see a lot of military people and few civilians. I hardly, or actually don't see, any doctors or nurses. And the pregnant woman could have been placed into the scene. I am not saying it didn't happen but lies about events have happened because of propaganda and the Ukranians are not shy from using them. So always think twice about what is being said, about what happened, from both sides.  I can't blame the Ukranians for doing it (it's part of the propaganda war) but it does not have be the truth always what they say about what happened. Be critical on all parties.

« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2022, 17:41 »
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The latest is the children's hospital. It all seems to staged. If a hospital was working fully and then I would have expected many people about. I see a lot of military people and few civilians. I hardly, or actually don't see, any doctors or nurses. And the pregnant woman could have been placed into the scene.

You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this about such a disgusting attack. How have you reached this point where you are denying what everyone knows to be true? How have you lost your basic humanity that you would deny the suffering of these victims? Its just appalling. Please look closely at yourself and honestly examine your motives and reasoning. Bring yourself back from the brink before you cannot recover from this madness.

« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2022, 18:59 »
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Hopeless you guy's believe everything the media tells you. I don't care where you sell my clips just sell them!!!

« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2022, 21:03 »
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Hopeless you guy's believe everything the media tells you.

Media is the plural form of medium, which (broadly speaking) describes any channel of communication. This can include anything from printed paper to digital data, and encompasses art, news, educational content, and numerous other forms of information.

In other words, the media is what makes the difference between informed, educated people and flat-earthers, who only believe what is in front of their eyes.

Informed and educated people never "believe everything the media tells" them, but are capable of critical thinking being able to discern between facts and propaganda.

This is why flat-earthers and brainwashed people are not very different, because both categories suffer from different forms of knowledge impairment.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 19:59 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2022, 23:27 »
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This is why flat-earthers and brainwashed people are not very different, because both categories suffer from different forms of  knowledge impairment.
Perhaps its easier to admit the existence of flat-Earthers in light of a 2016 survey finding that 27 percent of Americans dont accept heliocentrism, 48 percent dont accept common ancestry of humans and non-human animals, and 61 percent dont accept the big bang. Clearly, whether due to ignorance or ideology, the scientific consensus is not always acceptedso why not about the shape of the Earth?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/yes-flat-earthers-really-do-exist/


« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2022, 06:20 »
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I'm still getting downloads in Russia, this needs to be stopped.

I had two in Moscow today, they are breaking the sanctions on Putins Russia, this must stop.

Don't stop here. Put all Russians in concentration camps.

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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2022, 09:59 »
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This is why flat-earthers and brainwashed people are not very different, because both categories suffer from different forms of  knowledge impairment.
Perhaps its easier to admit the existence of flat-Earthers in light of a 2016 survey finding that 27 percent of Americans dont accept heliocentrism, 48 percent dont accept common ancestry of humans and non-human animals, and 61 percent dont accept the big bang. Clearly, whether due to ignorance or ideology, the scientific consensus is not always acceptedso why not about the shape of the Earth?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/yes-flat-earthers-really-do-exist/

Well I'll be a Monkey's Uncle!  ;)

I've been involved in "real" science, on and off, for about 50 years, in various ways. One thing I can say for certain is, people will believe Pseudoscience before they will understand or believe the truth. That and it's harder to explain and convince them to listen, once they believe some factoid, because they will resist change and defend their mistaken beliefs. What they learned first is embedded and difficult to have someone admit they are wrong.

"it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

I don't know where or why the "we didn't land on the Moon" conspiracy started, but that has grown, instead of being put aside. Autism is not caused by vaccination, but one incredible doctor who faked his research, created that myth. Make a note please? Autism is a diagnosis, not a disease.

I'll just be bottom line. The Internet has not created an information super highway it has created a disinformation super highway. The best description still is, an infinite echo chamber of misinformation. People just search and repeat and don't do thoughtful research. Quotes of flawed information or outright lies are repeated until that's what you will find for an answer in a search, instead of the facts or the truth.

« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2022, 16:54 »
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Recently some of my photos have been selling on some sites that do not mark place of sles that could be being used for conspiracy theory/false flag fake news accusing Ukraine of things they have not done.  My images have nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia and were not shot there... but I find it odd  that they are selling now after hearing some of the lies Russia is now saying.

It is ok to use my photos for many things-- but this use is not ok.  The images have legitimate ways of being used and are also related to things in the news that have nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia but after hearing some of Russia's newest lies, I am concerned. 

SVH

« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2022, 18:40 »
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You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this about such a disgusting attack. How have you reached this point where you are denying what everyone knows to be true? How have you lost your basic humanity that you would deny the suffering of these victims? Its just appalling. Please look closely at yourself and honestly examine your motives and reasoning. Bring yourself back from the brink before you cannot recover from this madness.
You my friend, are a snowflake, look it up if you don't understand the meaning of it. You understand nothing but calling someone evil or calling them a super hero. It's pretty sad that nobody thought you to think for yourself. I hope you are young and things get ment for you. Otherwise I just feel sorry for you. Best of luck.

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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2022, 21:20 »
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People that use the word 'snowflake', are usually the biggest snowflakes of all. They're also the most likely to tell people to 'look things up' and to 'think for themselves', when the majority of their talking points have been thought for them. If you'd be so kind as to use the words awake, msm, elites, woke and sheep in your reply... then that'll be house on my conspiracy/anti-science/right wing bingo card. 


« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2022, 23:01 »
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People that use the word 'snowflake', are usually the biggest snowflakes of all. They're also the most likely to tell people to 'look things up' and to 'think for themselves', when the majority of their talking points have been thought for them. If you'd be so kind as to use the words awake, msm, elites, woke and sheep in your reply... then that'll be house on my conspiracy/anti-science/right wing bingo card.
Would you mind telling me the definition of "msm" please?  I haven't noticed my "woke" niece using this one on facebook....  I  know, I'm such a lemming.   

« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2022, 23:55 »
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People that use the word 'snowflake', are usually the biggest snowflakes of all. They're also the most likely to tell people to 'look things up' and to 'think for themselves', when the majority of their talking points have been thought for them. If you'd be so kind as to use the words awake, msm, elites, woke and sheep in your reply... then that'll be house on my conspiracy/anti-science/right wing bingo card.
Would you mind telling me the definition of "msm" please?  I haven't noticed my "woke" niece using this one on facebook....  I  know, I'm such a lemming.
Main Stream Media, Fox News for example. A place most snowflakes get their speaking points from.  ;D
« Last Edit: March 11, 2022, 23:58 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2022, 01:43 »
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This seems like a fair summary of the background to this disaster and how Putin and the West reached this point:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/mcdonalds-russia-departure-more-than-burgers-west-putin?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2022, 05:27 »
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The latest is the children's hospital. It all seems to staged. If a hospital was working fully and then I would have expected many people about. I see a lot of military people and few civilians. I hardly, or actually don't see, any doctors or nurses. And the pregnant woman could have been placed into the scene.

You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this about such a disgusting attack. How have you reached this point where you are denying what everyone knows to be true? How have you lost your basic humanity that you would deny the suffering of these victims? Its just appalling. Please look closely at yourself and honestly examine your motives and reasoning. Bring yourself back from the brink before you cannot recover from this madness.

You are a child. How can you prove that? If everyone believe in something it doesn't mean it's true. Many people believe in god but where is the evidence? Look closely at yourself before you attack others.

« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2022, 05:51 »
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I was convinced by the massive bomb crater outside and the screaming women carried from inside on stretchers. Yknow, facts, not the surreal crazed ramblings of Lavrov.

« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2022, 05:53 »
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If everyone believe in something it doesn't mean it's true.

Yes, yes, we should definitely listen and take advice from a guy whose arguments are based on obvious internet hoaxes.  ;)

From a guy who considers himself smart for not believing in God, but who believes in Bernie Gores. 🤣

Priceless!
« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 19:58 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2022, 09:30 »
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Ukraine has no allies in the West. All these ridiculous demonstrative support is just for the sake of PR. All collected charitable money will be stolen and all weapons sent will be lost. Such a country...

Russia will continue to function. The people will live freed from the western husk. McDonald's and KFC are gone. Will they worry about it when there is borscht and fried potatoes?

Most likely, after a few years of recession, we will get a strong country with a developed economy. Don't forget, there are very talented people in Russia, and if they are squeezed into a corner, they are capable of miracles.


The UK is helping Ukraine by sending them trucks of weapons.  As are various countries in the west. Yesterday they were deciding on adding anti air craft weapons and anti tank weapons (missiles) to the trucks. We are also sending food and aid. We are also taking in Ukranians as are Poland, Germany and Spain.

I'm not sure what reports you are watching but the ones I'm seeing are Putin considering middle East mercenaries to top up his under funded, under educated and under age 'crack Russian forces' which rather than rocking up to Ukraine and handed flowers, have been handed their arses.

Perhaps you've been listening to too much borschit?

Now Putins calamity squad have allegedly found chemical and biological weapons. No doubt the Ukranians will suffer those as well. As if borscht wasn't punishment enough.

Russians are certainly talented though they seem to have had a democracy bypass and while they can build almost anything from the scrap heap of dead microwave ovens and hip implants even they can't build anything useful with just 'attitude'. I pity the Russian and other people who suffer these stupid and in this case, spectacularly inept dictators, who run feral until like everything that goes feral - it gets put out of everyone's misery.

« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2022, 12:49 »
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If everyone believe in something it doesn't mean it's true.

Yes, yes, we should definately listen and take advice from a guy whose arguments are based on obvious internet hoaxes.  ;)

From a guy who considers himself smart for not believing in God, but who believes in Bernie Gores. 🤣

Priceless!

Yes, yes you should definitely listen and take advice from someone who is smarter than you and it is not brainwashed.

And yes, for someone who believes in western media like a blind and not very intelligent believer, you should do more listen and less talking.

« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2022, 13:23 »
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If everyone believe in something it doesn't mean it's true.

Yes, yes, we should definately listen and take advice from a guy whose arguments are based on obvious internet hoaxes.  ;)

From a guy who considers himself smart for not believing in God, but who believes in Bernie Gores. 🤣

Priceless!

Yes, yes you should definitely listen and take advice from someone who is smarter than you and it is not brainwashed.

And yes, for someone who believes in western media like a blind and not very intelligent believer, you should do more listen and less talking.

🤣
Yes, yes we all should listen to and take advice from you, indeed!
Tell us more!
Show us your ways, teach us your paths! Guide us in your truths and teach us, for you are komikmiha, and our hope is in you all day long!

This is becoming entertaining!
You remind me of a character from "Le Dner de Cons".
Check it out, it may help you understand your position in this forum.  ;)

Bernie Gores! Lol! Too funny!
« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 13:46 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2022, 14:50 »
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Well, the only one that seems concerningly brainwashed around here is you. It appears you are not getting much support with the silly arguments you throw on the table.

The best thing you can do is learn a little history, follow reliable media, and change the hours you are devoting to your PlayStation and use that valuable time to educate yourself. You need it desperately.

Yes, yes you should definitely listen and take advice from someone who is smarter than you and it is not brainwashed.

And yes, for someone who believes in western media like a blind and not very intelligent believer, you should do more listen and less talking.


« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2022, 15:28 »
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If everyone believe in something it doesn't mean it's true.

Yes, yes, we should definately listen and take advice from a guy whose arguments are based on obvious internet hoaxes.  ;)

From a guy who considers himself smart for not believing in God, but who believes in Bernie Gores. 🤣

Priceless!

Yes, yes you should definitely listen and take advice from someone who is smarter than you and it is not brainwashed.

And yes, for someone who believes in western media like a blind and not very intelligent believer, you should do more listen and less talking.

🤣
Yes, yes we all should listen to and take advice from you, indeed!
Tell us more!
Show us your ways, teach us your paths! Guide us in your truths and teach us, for you are komikmiha, and our hope is in you all day long!

This is becoming entertaining!
You remind me of a character from "Le Dner de Cons".
Check it out, it may help you understand your position in this forum.  ;)

Bernie Gores! Lol! Too funny!

Not enough of IQ, so you can't understand. ;) Sorry, but somebody needs to say that out loud.

« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2022, 15:33 »
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Well, the only one that seems concerningly brainwashed around here is you. It appears you are not getting much support with the silly arguments you throw on the table.

The best thing you can do is learn a little history, follow reliable media, and change the hours you are devoting to your PlayStation and use that valuable time to educate yourself. You need it desperately.

Yes, yes you should definitely listen and take advice from someone who is smarter than you and it is not brainwashed.

And yes, for someone who believes in western media like a blind and not very intelligent believer, you should do more listen and less talking.

My knowledge of history is perfect. Yours zero. Nada. But you really make me laugh: "follow reliable media". Haha, well this is sweet irony in all glory.

Since you are brainwashed and you live all alone with your mom, you have no friends, you are pathetic virgin with cheese in you ears, maybe some kind of professional help will do.  ;D It appears you will get much support with the silly arguments you throw on the table.  ;D ;D

« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2022, 17:49 »
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Ordinary russian people don't have blame for government decisions.
I llive in Venezuela a socialist country and the US government have made some sanctions on Venezuela. In Cuba have many sanctions from the US, but the government is stiill in power in Cuba. In the end, the most affected are the ordinarie people.
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« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2022, 20:21 »
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My knowledge of history is perfect. Yours zero. Nada.

Donald... is that you?!

« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2022, 09:04 »
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I think people are arguing at cross purposes. Komikmiha thinks people dont know about certain facts because they disagree with the conclusions he has come to based on those facts (some people are ignorant of them Im sure but definitely not the case for most people here).

People for the most part arent arguing with the fact that other countries have also acted badly or that there are other terrible things going on right now that should have more attention (Yemen, Somalia etc.). Most are just saying none of that means you cant care for the people of Ukraine or that a despot has attacked another sovereign European nation.

You should really go watch some Adam Curtis documentaries about how Russian propaganda has worked the last few decades and realise that it isnt an accident you are stuck in the mindset that everything and everyone is equally awful and theres nothing we can/ should do about it.

« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2022, 12:43 »
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I think people are arguing at cross purposes....

some are discussing facts, others insults & ad hominem attacks


 

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