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Messages - Deyan Georgiev Photography
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« on: January 26, 2024, 02:06 »
Good day everyone,
I had a batch of images that was approved more than a month ago (approved on mid December). Until now, i couldn't find my own approved images using all the method i could possibly think of including typing, the image id, title, or relevant keywords on different browsers.
Could it be that the images are not indexed hence the fail to appear on the search? ie: some of the images when i typed in the keywords combo, there are only 3 pages come out as a total result for the category. but my images still not appeared on those.
Appreciate if anyone who had encountered a similiar scenario to shed some lights on this matter or to direct me who i can contact with to seek a solution to this matter? Thanks.
The approved are sorted by most recent uploaded first, not recent reviewed/accepted.
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« on: January 24, 2024, 16:06 »
But... did you generate your images with AI yourself? (it seems to be). If the case, you don't own any copyright and you should not even complain. 
In this case he have the rights to sell those images, the other no. A big difference.
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« on: January 24, 2024, 10:12 »
Adobe Stock reviews are ULTRA fast! Kudos to the editors... absolutely amazing work!
You talk about regular content or AI ?
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« on: January 20, 2024, 08:35 »
A few days ago, 100% of my photos accepted. Today, one more time, 100% acceptation...
Really, it's soooo boring. 
I've got no reason to complain for... 18 Years! (since Fotolia of course)
Hem, guess to understand why...  Rejections were the best way for learning. I know, it's Ok Boomer attitude.
I don't submit the 100ks photos that I took, but my best work. Hey!!!!! try-it!!!
Of course, no use of AI, thanks, I want to be the one who has capacities, not the machine!
It is rare to see such positive and encouraging posts in this forum. Keep on rockin!!!
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« on: January 15, 2024, 00:24 »
am sure Getty/istock will take ai once their legal team has found a way to make it work for them.
If the nvidia generator is good, they might restrict themselves to content created from it.
But if they want to have a good collection, they will need enough suppliers sending in good content.
Shutterstock, at least according to their last comments on their financial reports, seems to think just licensing their media bank for training ai is their new business.
They made 80 million selling stock but already an additional 20 million licensing data. And they seem to be sharing just a minuscule amount of that with creators.
I personally think that is a dead end. Only allowing customers to create content will not build up a stellar ai collection.
But whoever had a great business brain seems to have left for now. They still have editorial and video/pond5 though. And with new and good managers they could turn that ship around very quickly.
The smaller agencies , deposit, envato etc.. will probably start taking ai at some. Perhaps like dreamstime without people content.
At the moment Adobe reigns supreme. They made the best decision and have increased the value of their Adobe stock offering immensely.
And of course the tight integration with ai photoshop tools.
After releasing Midjourney V6 they already lag behind on every level of AI generated image.
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« on: January 13, 2024, 23:44 »
Why the final client have the right to use the image? Because the designer gives them.
Why the designer have the right to use the image? Because the stock agency gives them.
Why the stock agency have the right to sale the image? Because the stock stock photographer gives them.
Why the stock stock photographer have the right to sale the image? Because the AI image generator gives them.
Why the AI image generator owner have the right to sale the image? Because they have created this tool.
Why they have created this tool? Because they are smart and because we can not escape of the future and AI revolution.
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« on: January 12, 2024, 16:10 »
This discussion is very reminiscent of comparing the film image to the first steps of digital. The difference is that the quality in AI images develops 10 times faster and here we don't just have pixels, but compositions, light and everything else.
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« on: January 12, 2024, 12:22 »
Im seeing quite a few. Adobe is kicking SSs @ss to the curb.
By not allowing external AI content they punish themselves. Adobe just do the right things in accordance to the new reality.
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« on: January 09, 2024, 22:26 »
I've hit a bit of a snag with my AI-generated content. Lately, about 75% of my stuff is getting the thumbs down, even though I'm using the same tools and upscaler as always. I get that Adobestock is all about top-notch images, and that's 100% the way is SHOULD be. But this sudden drop in acceptance in 2024 feels like a seismic change. Something's definitely up.
Maybe it's something with DALL-E or Topaz Photo AI, or maybe Adobestock have changed their game. It would be super helpful to get the lowdown on this. Knowing what's going on would let me tweak my process and set my expectations right for what Adobestock is looking for now.
Why not consider that the people who are looking for something are above all the customers? they are the ones who pay...
And many customers don't want AI generated stuff.
Be sure Adobe is starting to know this.
There is a filter and they can filter non AI stuff if preferred.
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« on: January 08, 2024, 07:55 »
I think it will become really difficult for actual photo amateurs to improve their photo skills by uploading to stock agencies.
The quality coming in with ai content, even from complete art amateurs, is just so much better.
Real commercial photography will become a domain of professional photographers, like real oil paintings only done by actual masters of the craft.
But I think the value of editorial photography will go up, as will photography with real models and real people, but only if it is done in a highly localized environment or subjects that need to be correct for the genre - medical, engineering etc...also gardening with real flowers and not ai mixed hybrids or real animals and underwater life that is genuine and not ai created.
If you keep this in mind, there is a huge field of content that can be worked on, especially if you add latin names to flora and fauna that should be even more valuable than now.
Just to clarify "Real commercial photography" will be back as domain of professional photographers.
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« on: January 08, 2024, 07:08 »
AI generated photos sells now absolutely successful, the clients do not care from what source the image come as long as it will "sell the story".
In the near future the final client will have the option to create the desired AI images much easy and fast than now, but nothing can replace the successful image proven in the search engine with many sales, so I think there is a space for search in real photos or AI photos or to generate personal image. We'll see, but one thing is sure very soon the real images will be a very tiny part of all stock photo base. No one can stop this, lol
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« on: January 08, 2024, 04:28 »
I find my weekly upload of 25 images are reviewed in 1 week - However the last 2 weeks every single image has been rejected due to quality which is ridiculous as they are no different in quality from my other 8000 approved images and I have never had more than 1 or 2 rejections each week historically......will see what happened this week!
Had exactly the same thing. Last saturday I uploaded some AI-images in the same quality as some I did before (and which already sold on Adobe Stock). All of them were rejected about 12 hours later because of quality issues. This is very strange. They usually take weeks to review and now in the weekend they can review with in 12 hours?
GOOD NEWS! thx
Only consider that the time of human AI prompters maybe already finished. Adobe knows they will propose directly AI generation in the hands of their customers, with real time quality evolution.
Yes, but not that soon.
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« on: December 26, 2023, 10:37 »
Good looking images. Better use Topaz Gigapixel for upscaling.
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« on: December 19, 2023, 04:14 »
To me this topic is useless in the forum if there is no discussion on the particular problem with the problematic examples, it looks like personal problem between contributor and Adobe, but not professional. I can't believe in this, by my experience Adobe do it's job professional. But maybe there is some private case and better contact Mat or Adobe directly, if you don't want to share your images, something I understand.
About the AI quality, the agencies evaluate the quality based on the current state of the technology, just like istock in 2002 for example with the image sensor quality compared to the film photography, this is normal.
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« on: December 19, 2023, 03:06 »
So, what is the point of creating this post if not to show the rejected images and find why you got such rejections? It's a frivolous to assume Adobe, the biggest company in the photography area don't know what they do, but you know. Many experienced people here can help you to find some weak points in your job and to resolve this rejection problems.
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« on: December 16, 2023, 02:00 »
So...
a) For actual photos (not genAI)... Do you "need" keep the meta data in the images? I submitted a batch of high quality photographs - and "all" were rejected... (I had cleaned out the meta data, i.e., what camera was used, and other details)... was that just laziness on the reviewers part (i.e., did they just "assume" it was genAI because of no meta data, so just rejected it), or what was going on - do I "need" to leave that data in? Extremely frustrating, as I had waited quite some time for them to be processed...
b) When I do some of the genAI,I do take the time to remove extra fingers, logos, make sure the composition is correct, etc... I realize there are probably many that don't (seeking 'genAI' riches with no work/editing/etc)... HOWEVER... it's also frustrating when it seems you get a lazy reviewer - that rejects 90%-95% of a batch that required a lot of time consuming editing to make sure it looked good... Matt, could you please fix that?
Thanks very much!
Removing metadata such as camera details would have zero impact on moderation results. The quality of the asset is the top criteria when it comes to image reviews. Without seeing the content you are referencing, I can only assume there were issues with the files and that the moderators got it right. I'm certainly open to being proven wrong and would encourage you to share a couple of examples here.
-Mat Hayward
I totally agree with you Mat, In my 15 years experience in stock photography I also many times got frustrated about rejections, but looking at those images 5-10 years later I see the reviewers were right in most of the cases.Without examples this topic is useless. I see overall people thinking on quality only on technical aspect, but to me in one stock photo quality means also what value it brings to the collection and from there the quality of the Adobe Stock collection as a whole. Every image is like a small pixel who create the whole collection image. From this point I think with AI we have to think even more on this level of "hidden" quality and to think what our brain can create as idea and bring it to the image's heart, because a couple of years from now there will be an option in the AI tools to create millions of images in a couple of hours in bulk by group of criteria and prompts templates. I'm very excited to see our new role as stock photographers. Sorry, got a bit off topic.
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« on: December 14, 2023, 07:15 »
Why do these tools seem to have problems with human hands?
For the painters is not something new, the most complicated part to recreate of human body are the hands. Looks like for the AI too, lol
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« on: December 06, 2023, 04:14 »
@Deyan: If you are affected by Clipdealer not paying as well, please feel free to reach out to me.
Thanks Robert, but he owe me very little amount and I'll wait a bit more. I'm more affected because of his act in this case. I can understand closing agency to not pay us final payment, it happens because of bad management or business luck, but here in Clipdealer we see tendentious and intentionally retention of the money.
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« on: December 05, 2023, 12:20 »
Seems to be a pattern with the companies in Germany (Panthermedia, EyeEM) 
Both are paying correctly, but in Clickdealer I wait second year... If we assume that Markus Hein -->  is stealing for example 150 contributors with just 10 euros monthly he has a minimum german salary each month, cool right?
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« on: November 21, 2023, 04:40 »
123RF accept and sells AI content on the same level as the regular content.
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« on: November 18, 2023, 08:16 »
stock photographers will disappear just as the professional darkroom photo developers disappeared in the past
It will be on the opposite stock photographers will become a new "darkroom photo developers", but they will be named "AI photo developers". Stock photography is here and have a very bright future, just watch if you don't believe in it to use AI tools..
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« on: November 09, 2023, 14:23 »
For sure acceptance fixed limit per user do not exist, this is so stupid that no one agency would limit themselves on that stupid way, but limit on each user based on previous reviews or potfolio sales history sounds real, although even that is pretty extreme. So, create unique content, quality content, strong conceptual, no similars and so on and your acceptance rate will be high. All this is clear from years ago. Don't be paranoid.
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« on: November 03, 2023, 07:27 »
I think that the situation there is not so good with AI
Let them just start accepting external AI generated images, they lose sales day to day. This will change hopefully soon.
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« on: October 17, 2023, 02:37 »
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« on: October 03, 2023, 02:57 »
I don't know if we must do it with generic stock agencies or niche agencies, but earning a full salary with AI will be very difficult. There are too many contributors and too many images for the same pie to share.
There will be no earning any salary from AI images for contributors, clients will type what they want and pay to the big companies. At least thats how I see it.
If you try to generate what you exactly want you'll see how difficult that is, so for the clients is much more easy and less time consuming to use a good AI search engine and find the best of AI generated content from image data base. To me the future is in the best search engine.
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