hello friends...
I am trying to make alive almost a dead thread...
Has Alamy no place in top 3 macro sites..? Is Getty really better than alamy ?

Hello there,
  I am going to post my first 10 photos to SS for approval and I have a good photo that i do need to post.
But as i have already post that photo as "Editorial" in DT..so please suggest me whether is it ok to post same photo to SS as RF ?
Thanking you.

thank you Baldrick for your moral support.  I will give you and Eli a treat if i get selected in alamy in my 1st attempt 

Quote from: icefront on October 17, 2011, 16:00

@RacePhoto:

I was always wondering about uploading to Alamy. As I see you are working with them from a long time... How is compared to microstock?
I mean the value of a photo. A given shot, uploaded to many cheap/mid-priced agencies can be uploade to alamy? (As RF of course). It is fair play?
I uploaded some shots as RM (exclusive by nature), I was afraid to upload the shots I offer @ microstock...
I'm not interested on what is possible. I'm interested only on the true idea, what is the best way to offer photos to this kind of agencies. For example, upload RF photos but regardless of the RF license, keep them exclusively for Alamy? To me , RM is interesting only when there's a logo/recognizable, possible copyrighted element visible on the image. What about this?

I'm different and others may also be different in their own ways. I have Editorial RM on Alamy, I don't put the same shots there as Micro. If I have RF on Alamy, it's not on Micro. Personal decision.

I don't think that the whole Microstock type of photo and concept will sell well on Alamy. Ask someone who has lots of both on both and maybe I'm wrong. The RPI on Alamy (not that I actually care) is lower than micro. Some people care? But when I make more money bottom line on Alamy and average for the last two years now $80 commission for sold images, I feel better than selling something 100 times in a year for 25 cents and getting $25. Might just be me?

Heck if I could I'd sell one picture a year for $1000 commission and be happy! LOL

That's the point. Microstock is based on volume and then RPI does matter, but I might ask, what images? If I want a higher RPI, all I have to do is delete all my non-sellers. We've been here before. Yes that's kind of stupid, but it also shows that the numbers are meaningless unless someone asks RPI for what images? SOmeone with 200 really good shots on IS, will make a higher RPI that someone with 1000 marginal shots. And guess what, their RPI will be much higher too!

Alamy is not Microstock and they aren't trying to be. Sure they have some lower sales. Odd but those are mostly for people who sell the same images there as they have up cheap on Micro. What a revelation. Cheap photos are cheap everywhere.  It's not like buyers on Alamy are dimwits and don't know that they can get microstcok style images from 100 other sites, cheap? I will never understand how photographers think so little of buyers and are so insulting to assume they are stupid and will pay $200 for the identical shot that they can buy on SS for $12! Really?

How about this for the people who do well on Micro and have good size portfolios on Alamy and have tried for more than, "I put up some and they didn't sell, so I'm just watching..." What's the return per download on Alamy vs Microstock? Even the low sales on Alamy are higher than Micro for me, but I've read some horror stories where people got pennies. What's the norm and what's average for Alamy vs what's the normal and what's average for your best Micro agency, that would be the question?

Anyway, it's a different pricing, different type of buyer, different use most of the time. The same photos that won't get accepted on Micro will make a sale on Alamy. Lumping them together, just because they both sell photographs, is shallow and totally flawed reasoning. Something that may sell once a week on micro, won't sell once a year on Alamy.

Lowest sale I've had on Alamy was this year, $15 to some newspaper in Slovania, 1/16th of a page size, until Oct 2012, through an agent. Horrible. I got $6 and change. Best this year, $108 commission 2 page spread, Textbook - print and e-book, Worldwide, until 2027. There's a big difference between the size and usage license. Alamy pricing is based on use, not like Microstock where unless it's enhanced or some special condition, pretty much everything is one price fits all.

Hope that explains why I go off when someone says Alamy should get into Microstock... 

Reminds me, how did that IS getting into Editorial thing work out?

Completely agreed with Racephoto...!

Thank you Karin and Stockastic..
 please do me another favour and tell that if one guy fails his 1st QC then is he informed by alamy in time and after how many days/hours can he retry the QC...?
is alamy very specific or strict for noise ? as i posted 4 pix last night and now when i look one of those pix i found moderate level noise in a portion of photo.. damnn i could not see that.. but its not that much as shown by alamy QC help section in an example photo... what are the chances that they don't qualify my 4 pix ?   

If one fails his QC 1st time then after how many days he can retry the QC once again...?

ya thats true sue.. thanks for reply :-)

ok. Thanks stockastic

I just posted 4 images for QC last night... lets hope for best.. once i am accepted I am ready to try my photos from rural and tribal parts of India.. but for that i need to be approved man !!!!! lol (Fingers crossed )

good. I wish you may earn more in alamy Paulo :-) and i may learn from your shots lol

is it really more fruitful to post alamy exclusively ?

The first time, it took three months.  Then I closed my account down in 2008 (for business reasons).  I opened my account again this past May and I licensed two images in July - it was a topic not covered anywhere else (including the micros).  It depends on what you have available and how large your portfolio is.  It takes at least 3 months (Alamy gives you a default rank for 100 days because they know this) and for most folks, they won't see regular sales until after the first year.

What is that rank about ? new thing about alamy for me...!