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« Reply #275 on: October 23, 2020, 11:22 »
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As for receiving money for claiming a profit by third parties without consent, it is something related to science fiction. Whether images are free or not. Claim from an agency the money charged for an image of you sold by another user, demand your money, and you will have the answer to theory and reality.


« Reply #276 on: October 23, 2020, 14:27 »
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...if I were a CEO of Adobe Inc, I would do the following: 1) if Adobe's sell department reports me an unreasonable but sensitive sell drop in stock content, I would call off the program "free-content"... 2) if the program "free-content" does not increase new subscribers above what Adobe usually has, I would call off the program... :)

« Reply #277 on: October 23, 2020, 23:32 »
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The free collection has grown - not by a huge number, but the total today was 78,094 vs. 77,283 on Oct 15

Videos, illustrations & 3D are the same as before.

Vectors shrank by 25 - I hadn't expected to see things leave before the 1 year commitment was up.

Photos grew by 629. That appears to be one new portfolio added, Eugenio Marongiu
https://stock.adobe.com/search/free?creator_id=200924422

The other note is that the undiscovered content in Free is greater by 609 images - possibly that's the newly added portfolio.

Either no one is downloading the free images, or the free downloads aren't being tallied (although you'd hope they were), o the undiscovered content numbers are not refreshed very often as downloads occur.

Given how big the download counts are at other free sites, I had assumed we would see some huge decrease in undiscovered content in Adobe's Free section as downloads took off...
« Last Edit: October 24, 2020, 11:12 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #278 on: October 24, 2020, 05:16 »
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And why would people want to download from ASF?

1. Unsplash is also free
2. Content quality is same or better
3. You don't need to create an account/login

If ASF was launched in 2002, it would have been very popular.

« Reply #279 on: October 24, 2020, 05:30 »
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Either no one is downloading the free images, or the free downloads aren't being tallied (although you'd hope they were), or that the undiscovered content numbers are refreshed very often as downloads occur. Given how big the download counts are at other free sites, I had assumed we would see some huge decrease in undiscovered content in Adobe's Free section as downloads took off...

But Adobe says that the undiscovered filter may not be updated in real time. For all we know it may be updated once a week only, so I would not rely on these numbers to be accurate.

And why would people want to download from ASF?

1. Unsplash is also free
2. Content quality is same or better
3. You don't need to create an account/login

If ASF was launched in 2002, it would have been very popular.
I don't think that word got around to people who don't look for photos on Adobe that there are now free images so fast. It takes time. Right now, when you google for "Free Stock images", Adobe doesn't even come up on the first page (Shutterstock comes in first by the way ...  ::)), so it's not easy for people who want free images to get to know about this.
But I expect that at least the people who have a Adobe account + subscription already would also download the free images. If you're here anyways already, and are paying for content, why not take the free content along?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2020, 05:35 by Firn »

« Reply #280 on: October 25, 2020, 01:23 »
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On the plus side we can download the free images and if appropriate to your work, use part or all of the free image to form a composite new image and upload to sell back on Adobe etc

« Reply #281 on: October 26, 2020, 10:37 »
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On the plus side we can download the free images and if appropriate to your work, use part or all of the free image to form a composite new image and upload to sell back on Adobe etc

No, this is not allowed.

-Mat

« Reply #282 on: October 26, 2020, 23:36 »
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On the plus side we can download the free images and if appropriate to your work, use part or all of the free image to form a composite new image and upload to sell back on Adobe etc

No, this is not allowed.

-Mat
It is not allowed, but people will be doing this because it is made possible.

« Reply #283 on: October 29, 2020, 15:52 »
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Matt. Do you think it is a good sign that people only viewed and still didn't comment? Not good feeling really. The pattern is already known

I expect there to be questions and concerns from the contributors which is exactly why I started this conversation before the email went out. I know many people read the posts in this forum without commenting so to answer your specific question, I don't "view" that as a sign in any way.

I can assure you that I've been asking hard questions of the team and I genuinely believe this program has the potential to benefit contributors in several ways. I'll share a couple of key takeaways from my original questions here.

First, the contributors with content in the free collection were compensated in advance for their participation. While it's limited to select contributors now, we'll allow others to participate as time goes on. The content in the free collection will be rotating to keep it fresh and relevant. As content leaves the free collection, it returns to the paid collection.

Second, and I believe most importantly, if you browse the Adobe Stock free collection, you'll see that there are a lot of assets that cover a wide range of subjects, but no one particular subject has a deep selection to choose from. That is by design. When someone who typically only uses free sites visits Adobe Stock, they now have the opportunuity to see more search results beyond free. This is a potential customer base that was not visiting paid sites historically. The result should be an expanded market for paying customers.

I welcome your feedback and look forward to the conversation.

-Mat
stop talking from your behind man, you dont believe that at all, you just back your employer, you did that over the backs of your colleagues at Fotolia and now you are doing it again. a free image collection brings no benefit to anyone other than the customer, it just devalues the value of an image even further.

« Reply #284 on: October 29, 2020, 16:02 »
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@MatHayward

Is there any download limit per day/week? Can someone download all 70.000 assets without any time limit if they want?

@theendup...yes, there is a download limit. For customers without a paid subscription or credits, they are limited to a maximum of 100 downloads per day. This number is subject to change as we gather more data on customer behavior.

Thanks for the question.

-Mat

thats not a download limit, just takes a bit more time to download 70k free images

« Reply #285 on: October 29, 2020, 16:04 »
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In my opinion this is way too many assets at way too high a quality level for a free collection. It would be one thing to offer a much smaller rotating collection of free content meant to showcase as many contributors as possible and actually highlight the paid content.  This just looks like giving up and saying even Adobe apparently can't/won't stand up to the Pixabay crowd.

This line from the FAQ is particularly tone deaf to me:

Why does Adobe Stock offer a free collection? Won't it directly compete with the paid collection?
There is a growing demand for free content.

So what? There are always people who want everything for free. There is a growing demand for free software too, will there be a rotating free app in Creative Cloud each year? Adobe's contributors are also it's customers, and it certainly feels like a slap in the face to people who've paid thousands of dollars for Adobe apps over many years.

I feel a little silly now for singing Adobe's praises so loudly over the last year, and sending all my clients there. I was so pleased with all the open communication, the Discord communities, the webinars, the time and patience Mat spends here answering questions....but a move like this from the last agency I can say I actually trusted is just exhausting and deeply disheartening.

I've patiently explained to people countless times the advantages of properly licensing images from a trusted agency over downloading from the free sites.  This just muddies the waters further for people who think all images should be free in the first place.

I'm really sorry you feel that way Amanda. I have no intention of lowering my threshold for contributor advocacy and will continue to answer as many questions as I can in as transparent a way possible here in MSG, in the Adobe Stock Contributor Discord channel, in the Adobe Stock contributor forum, in the webinars, my personal social media, frankly anywhere and everywhere people will listen to what I have to say. In other words, I respect your position and the opinions you have shared in your post and I will do everything I can to see to it your faith is restored and that you will again be singing the praises of Adobe soon.

I've seen a number of tongue-in-cheek comments here about Adobe giving away software. I would like to remind you that we have given away tens of thousands of complimentary subscriptions through the Adobe Stock contributor Bonus Progam over the past couple of years and that we are continuing the tradition again with the 2020 program. So to answer your specific question... yes, for productive contributors Adobe is giving away a free app each year. If qualified, you can choose which app you want so technically, that could be considered a rotating app should you want it to be. I'm not trying to make light of your point but rather am pointing out that we've put a lot of heart-felt effort into making sure contributors know how much they are appreciated and to do so, we are willing to make considerable investments.

On that note, there was another big announcement from Adobe Stock today. While the other offical announcement was in tandem with the free collection, I feel it warrants a separate thread and conversation and will be posting about it here shortly.

Thanks again for the feedback. It is important for us to hear.

Mat
it wasnt free, you had to upload 300 new images and have them approved, adobe made money on the back of that, and creating 300 images is a hell of a lot of work

you seem to have trouble with the meaning of simple words like 'free' and 'limit' etc

« Reply #286 on: October 29, 2020, 17:44 »
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 it wasnt free, you had to upload 300 new images and have them approved, adobe made money on the back of that, and creating 300 images is a hell of a lot of work

you seem to have trouble with the meaning of simple words like 'free' and 'limit' etc
first, please stop the ad hominem attacks on Matt you made earlier

you seem to have trouble with simple words too!! - there was NO CHARGE for the  bonus -- there was an incentive for uploads and a reward was given.  commonly done for all sorts of transactions -'buy 2 get one free', 'earn 1000 pts for a reward',etc

« Reply #287 on: October 30, 2020, 11:00 »
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This might be fun...lets have a guessing game . how much do you think Adobe paid the stock house's for free images. I have not heard if that paid price is for lifetime but for the purpose of this game lets say it is for lifetime for Adobe to giveaway. I guess six dollars an image which would be $420,000 for 70,000 images. What is your guess ?

« Reply #288 on: October 30, 2020, 11:20 »
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I believe Mat said earlier in this thread (or it might have been in Jim Pickerell's article) that the deal was for one year. After that the images rotate back into the paid collection.

« Reply #289 on: October 30, 2020, 11:32 »
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Jo Ann if it is for one year that is a lot better. I did not hear that. Well we can change the rules of the game for one year. I still put my price point at $ 6 bucks.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #290 on: October 31, 2020, 09:21 »
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I believe Mat said earlier in this thread (or it might have been in Jim Pickerell's article) that the deal was for one year. After that the images rotate back into the paid collection.

And also, the pay was calculated to be more than the amount the image would have received during a normal year. In theory, no contributor lost anything in the one year license deal, allowing free downloads.

While Adobe paid for them and will get no income directly for those free downloads.

« Reply #291 on: October 31, 2020, 10:37 »
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And also, the pay was calculated to be more than the amount the image would have received during a normal year. In theory, no contributor lostWhile Adobe paid for them and will get no income directly for those free downloads.

They will get income if people download the free images, use them to create new images, then sell them on Adobe. 😂

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #292 on: November 01, 2020, 10:54 »
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And also, the pay was calculated to be more than the amount the image would have received during a normal year. In theory, no contributor lost. While Adobe paid for them and will get no income directly for those free downloads.

They will get income if people download the free images, use them to create new images, then sell them on Adobe. 😂

Or more likely SS? :-X  Which won't help AS?   

We need to assume that most people are honest and understand the terms, not look for the worst in everyone and everything? But you are right, unfortunately,  "some people" will turn this crooked and sideways.

Chichikov

« Reply #293 on: November 06, 2020, 01:39 »
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And also, the pay was calculated to be more than the amount the image would have received during a normal year. In theory, no contributor lost. While Adobe paid for them and will get no income directly for those free downloads.

They will get income if people download the free images, use them to create new images, then sell them on Adobe. 😂

Or more likely SS? :-X  Which won't help AS?   

We need to assume that most people are honest and understand the terms, not look for the worst in everyone and everything? But you are right, unfortunately,  "some people" will turn this crooked and sideways.

During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize

« Reply #294 on: November 06, 2020, 04:52 »
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Adobe and before them Fotolia is sadly one of the WORST agencies for policing copyright infringements.

Some of their best selling Christmas and Easter vectors are clearly slightly edited versions of ones stolen from an IS exclusive edited and reuploaded. I contacted them over it a long time ago and the answer was (paraphrasing) we aren't bothered unless the copyright holder tells us.

So good luck with them caring when the free stuff starts showing up on other sites.

« Reply #295 on: November 06, 2020, 04:55 »
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During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize

PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Chichikov

« Reply #296 on: November 06, 2020, 05:39 »
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During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize

PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Why do you bring most discussions to politics?
It's really a habit with you
« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 05:42 by Chichikov »

« Reply #297 on: November 06, 2020, 08:18 »
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During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize




PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Why do you bring most discussions to politics?
It's really a habit with you

Clearly you had someone in mind when you made YOUR comment. Why do you always jump on the denigrating others bandwagon? Its really a habit with you and a couple of others here. Since you quoted Uncle Pete and me when you said it, theres a 50% chance you were talking about me.  ::) 

Here in the US weve had four years of a loud-mouthed, disgusting bully who calls himself president. This election, right now, is foremost on our minds. Right now Biden is winning the electoral college, and spoiled little baby bully that he is, Trumps holding up the counts because hes a sore loser. I suspect thats why Martha is bringing the conversation around to politics.

« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 08:25 by cathyslife »

Chichikov

« Reply #298 on: November 06, 2020, 09:24 »
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During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize




PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Why do you bring most discussions to politics?
It's really a habit with you

Clearly you had someone in mind when you made YOUR comment. Why do you always jump on the denigrating others bandwagon? Its really a habit with you and a couple of others here. Since you quoted Uncle Pete and me when you said it, theres a 50% chance you were talking about me.  ::) 

Here in the US weve had four years of a loud-mouthed, disgusting bully who calls himself president. This election, right now, is foremost on our minds. Right now Biden is winning the electoral college, and spoiled little baby bully that he is, Trumps holding up the counts because hes a sore loser. I suspect thats why Martha is bringing the conversation around to politics.

Clearly, really?

In my country, they say that "the guilty always feel targeted", that's apparently what you feel (your words, not mine), even if, frankly, my comment was only general and did not target anyone in particular.

As far as politics is concerned, for me Trump or Biden, Democrap or Repooblicans is the same S.... as it is for all the politicians in the world.
The world, has obvious problems and these problems are mainly the result of politicians, their ego and their excessive thirst for power.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 09:31 by Chichikov »

« Reply #299 on: November 06, 2020, 10:09 »
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During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize

PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Why do you bring most discussions to politics?
It's really a habit with you

Hey, pal, if the shoe pinches squeal! :D :D :D :D :D


 

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