Quote from: wds on October 21, 2020, 16:01
Is there any editorial in the free collection?

You can do a search yourself to see - right now, nothing

The overall numbers appear to have crept up slightly (about 100 more) but when you look at individual categories, it's not clear where. Another odd stat is that there are 10 images in the free section that are not included when "Safe Search" is enabled - the default. No easy way to know exactly what that is - free nudes??

"WE" We are a group of friends, the least crazy is me.

A group of trusted friends throughout years of internet wars, other wars.

Translation of the first paragraph, talented friends to navigate the internet.

People who have nothing to do with this business. Everything came up for carom. I arrived at the worst moment in the microstock business. But it may be the best time. Since it is as simple as skipping the middleman. And what are friends for if they don't support you when you need them?

A group of very crazy crazy people. They do not know or have anything that relates to this world of microstock.

You actually know them without knowing it. They are represented in the first scene of the Titanic. People from the neighborhood, from the street, playing cards the passage of the great ship, they do not live life, they drink life and they allow themselves, being poor, to obtain the ticket for a great trip. A historical journey. Eternal in our memory.

People who have nothing to lose, except their time, because they are my friends from other projects more complicated than this topic. Of course, people with great talent.

There are people from the USA, you can speak English, without having to suffer my texts.

I have already done my advertising, we continue with the AS thread. I've already got my minute of glory.


Subject of this thread, Adobe.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 21, 2020, 17:26

Quote from: wds on October 21, 2020, 16:01
Is there any editorial in the free collection?

You can do a search yourself to see - right now, nothing

The overall numbers appear to have crept up slightly (about 100 more) but when you look at individual categories, it's not clear where. Another odd stat is that there are 10 images in the free section that are not included when "Safe Search" is enabled - the default. No easy way to know exactly what that is - free nudes??

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 21, 2020, 17:26

Quote from: wds on October 21, 2020, 16:01
Is there any editorial in the free collection?

You can do a search yourself to see - right now, nothing

The overall numbers appear to have crept up slightly (about 100 more) but when you look at individual categories, it's not clear where. Another odd stat is that there are 10 images in the free section that are not included when "Safe Search" is enabled - the default. No easy way to know exactly what that is - free nudes??

free nudes??

I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

The adobe free collection is just the first step towards 'All You Can Download'.

Get ready for that exciting announcement later next year.

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

I wondered that too. Seems like an awfully big temptation to some.

Maybe it's best *not* to be among the select few! 

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Since none of the agencies seem to have any controls/checks, and none seem to do anything about it even when the stolen images are pointed out, maybe we all should just take a "if you can't beat em, join em" attitude and start beefing up our ports with stolen images. The agencies don't seem to care....a sale is a sale is a sale...no matter where it comes from.

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

So it's down to us to police adobestock .

Quote from: obj owl on October 22, 2020, 00:45

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

So it's down to us to police adobestock .

But... of course! Isn't that always the way it is?

Against the terms maybe but policing it is going to be hard.
If anyone can sign up for a free collection with no real vetting theres nothing stopping them using those free images to upload elsewhere.
It already happens a lot with stuff taken off Unsplash and so on.

I just cant see how giving full resolution free *good* images, in large numbers per day isnt going to get abused in similar ways.

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

And you think thieves care?

Even people who pay for images don't read the license terms. Why would people downloading free images bother to read them? Also, Adobe feels they'll somehow be educating people, but how? You can download the images just by clicking the button. And the search is set by default to your last search parameters, so anyone downloading free images will have free images as their search automatically next time they visit. I just don't see how this 1) educates anyone about anything and 2) encourages people to pay for images or even to see images they have to pay to license. I don't even see how it will get more people to license Adobe software. If you feel images should be free, you most likely feel software should be free too.

Quote from: marthamarks on October 22, 2020, 00:51

Quote from: obj owl on October 22, 2020, 00:45

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

So it's down to us to police adobestock .

But... of course! Isn't that always the way it is?

Major agencies have the technical means to "police" similars. Then the answer is : they are not interested to do the same in the interest of contributors.

Quote from: obj owl on October 22, 2020, 00:45

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

So it's down to us to police adobestock .

Does anyone here have any images in this FREE program? It's difficult for someone to steal my images, using free downloads, if none are there?

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 22, 2020, 15:01

Quote from: obj owl on October 22, 2020, 00:45

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

So it's down to us to police adobestock .

Does anyone here have any images in this FREE program? It's difficult for someone to steal my images, using free downloads, if none are there?

Exactly as I said above:

Maybe it's best *not* to be among the select few! 

Quote from: Chichikov on October 22, 2020, 07:18

Quote from: MatHayward on October 21, 2020, 23:14

Quote from: gnirtS on October 21, 2020, 19:32
I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Our license terms make it clear that this isn't allowed. If any contributor believes his content was misused and submitted by someone else we call out in our Contributor ToU, section 4 that we ask to notify us. https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20200416.pdf

thanks,

Mat

And you think thieves care?

i dont really care about thieves - they'll never buy images in the first place! ignore things over which you have no control, work on things you CAN control & your stress levels will decrease (12 step programs adopted these ideas from the ancient stoics!)

If free images are uploaded for sale elsewhere what actual damages can be claimed as there is no lost income?......

A commercial on TV said "free-free-free-free-free".... everyone loses with free. If free images are resold , everyone loses. It is a numbers game. The more free images out there stolen or not the less likely you will sell your not so free images. 

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 23, 2020, 12:26
If free images are uploaded for sale elsewhere what actual damages can be claimed as there is no lost income?......

Potential income from those same images in the future and/or on other sites?

Quote from: marthamarks on October 23, 2020, 13:52

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 23, 2020, 12:26
If free images are uploaded for sale elsewhere what actual damages can be claimed as there is no lost income?......

Potential income from those same images in the future and/or on other sites?

I'm no lawyer but thats hard to prove I would think. I'm genuinely interested if there are any legal experts out there as I really don't know the answer.

They are images that have the legal backing of owning copyright. Only the author is authorized to decide on his work. Free is not the absence of copyright or public domain file. There are countries that do not allow profit from images in the public domain, others do.
They are free files in a promotion, it does not mean that they do not have an author or rights.

Those images have been paid for and sold, they are only free for promotional customers. The author has not given them free, he has charged for those images.

The value of each file, be it a lot or a little, whether burned or not, does not eliminate its value. That promotion is temporary. The files have their owners and all legal rights. Tomorrow you can sell those images, the author at the price you want and where you want.