It's not communism, it's capitalism run for the benefit of society, rather than society run for the benefit of capitalism, which is how the money-mad psychopaths who have been allowed to grind our market economy into the greatest depression for a century prefer it.

But I guess we're never going to agree on this one!

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 21, 2015, 11:45

I want to see results of the accusations and a investigation just like you. Haven't received my DACS for this year, it's direct deposit into my account. Makes me suspicious why an agency would get paid, not to artist. Makes me suspicious why BAPLA would want to collect for us when membership costs �350.00 per annum for associate.

exactly. it's like starting a war and telling the world we need to finance the production of scuds,etc...
the photographers need to be a member to be "protected"; reminds me of the Union, who plots
against the Corporation and tells the lowly paid employees they are underpaid and overwork, so quick join the Union. now we see the Union bosses still collecting big pay checks while continuing to tell the overpaid underworked Union members to go on strike every year for strike pay.
same story different ppl, but there is a fool born every minute who believes the Union and all such
things are there to work for your benefit

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 22, 2015, 22:38

Unions are nothing but old socialistic philosophy and politics.  True they did have a place at the turn of the century and when workers were treated unfairly, worked in hazardous places, and child labor laws didn't exist. Now they are nothing but big leeches, drawing blood from workers with dues that go into the union leaders pockets. Many are mob run in the US.

That's how socialism works, the few profit from the pain of the workers, but make the business out to be the villain while they pretend to be some sort of brotherhood of strength. Then the union people on top reap the rewards and the workers are still paying for little or no gain. You need to pay to be a member for promises and protection. Maybe so you can work. Because non-union can't work in a union shop.

I want to see a thorough investigation of who was stealing Rex artist money. Maybe other artist money. And full disclosure. But until that I'm not going to fly off and accuse.

true , re your first para statement. it was meant to help the oppressed at that time, and it did good.
but when it came to the first world or progressive society, they became leeches like you say. much the same way as the old colonials brown-nosers rajas and colonels who pander to the "founder"(cough cough ..like the indigenous there before them were not "found:") of the new world.
same for the communes and tribes whose chiefs were the saviours of the nations... the Union were
. naturally, you do find diehards who preach the good of the Union because they were the ones who sat on their ar$es being the ones with $eniority and very little skill except to come to work complaining how much they hate their jobs yet won't quit until the pallbearers come to take their carcuses away from the office.

and yes, been there too, where the same people wearing hard hats doing the same jobs were told their services are only half as good as the Unionized labourers thoughthey work just as hard if not harder . ..so they only get half the pay. But, wink wink, if they pay the Union dues ... poof like magic their services suddenly became as 100% .

same for this thing with Rex etc... yes, they like to make ss look so bad so we all kneel to their
graven images and pay them dues to "protect" us. these leeches ... they just don't die, do they...
much like the cockroaches that survive even after the bombs killed every other living thing.

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Quote from: fotoVoyager on December 22, 2015, 11:02

It's not communism, it's capitalism run for the benefit of society, rather than society run for the benefit of capitalism, which is how the money-mad psychopaths who have been allowed to grind our market economy into the greatest depression for a century prefer it.

But I guess we're never going to agree on this one!

yes, i remember all those pipe pipers of communism who burn books and musical instruments that were the devil of capitalism encouraging only those books written about praise to the common good ie their own self appointed saviours.
i also remember how all those unionized workers went sent for us to do their overload jobs while they went out to smoke and then come back to complain i was in the can instead of waiting for my lunch break to take a leak.
i also remember how there was abundant crop of harvest and the people were told to go out and reap the harvest because they were short of hands to take advantage of the fruits of labour but no one answer the calls because they were much too comfortable cheering for their communist govt and now
too busy * eggs for nothing.
i also remember how anyone with a vision to better themselves were told they were the capitalist
devil and they were chased away with pitchforks because they were really a threat to the messiahs of communism. anything that make money for someone else was a capitalist devil

x/ i thought communists don't believe in santa claus since it's a capitalist invention

Well said. So callled liberalism ("progressives"?? - laughable) is fast becoming thinly veiled bolshevism/communism. It's thinly veiled because westerners never experienced it, they are clueless, do not even start to recognize it while they it's staring them in the face... Those from the eastern block who experienced these things first hand know this is almost exactly how it happens, they keep screaming "watch out", but nobody listens.

small clue: most know the early soviets were anti-religion... religion haters. Not many know there was one exception: islam. They supported islam saying it's part of  a 'common struggle'. They wanted to drag them in.